EC chairman rebuffs Pheu Thai's call to sue PDRC

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EC chairman rebuffs Pheu Thai’s call to sue PDRC

BANGKOK: -- The chairman of the Election Commission Mr Supachai Somcharoen today rebuffed call by the ruling Pheu Thai party to take legal action against the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) leader in derailing the February 2 general election.

He said “don’t try to teach us what to do, we know our duties”.

Supachai’s strong comment came after the Pheu Thai party told the EC to take legal against the PDRC leader Suthep Thaugsuban on charge of obstructing the February 2 general election after it was ruled unconstitutional by the Constitutional Court last week.

He said the Pheu Thai should never order the EC to work as it knew well of the duties.

He said that the EC was working on the matter on a clandestine way and has no need to inform the public every step it was doing.

He also said the EC has no concern about threat to bring it to the court for compensation to the failed election because what it had done was in compliance with the laws.

He said Sunday’s low voter turnout of those who registered to vote outside their constituencies was not because of the political situation, but of confusion in registering their rights outside their constituencies.

He said that those who have earlier registered to vote outside their constituencies must go to vote in the constituencies they registered in every election until they apply for change to return to vote in their original household places.

He said that the EC will have a meeting late this afternoon to set work guideline after the court’s ruling adding that it could not determine yet when the new general election should be called as it is awaiting full judgment from the court on the ruling.

But he assured that new date would be discussed with all parties to enable smooth election.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ec-chairman-rebuffs-pheu-thais-call-sue-pdrc/


-- Thai PBS 2014-03-24

[Scamper]

Thank goodness that the EC is no longer allowing itself to be bullied by people like Prompong. The EC is a constitutionally empowered agency. The administration is beholden to listen to them - not the other way around.

[chainarong]

It is hardly the EC concern to arrange safe passage for electors , that is the duty of the Police department, that so far has been rather recalcitrant in its dealings with the protestors , the illegal obstruction of polling booths the grenade attacks on the protesters ,the speeches of hate, the threats of violence, the threat of succession to the North, road side bombs , as the man said we know what and where our duty lies , so go puff smoke somewhere else.

[Costas2008]

Khun Supachai Somcharoen, you should know by now, that this government, blames everybody else for their inability to govern or follow court rulings, except themselves.

[blabth]

What a Joker, it is the main duty to overlook the election process and raise the voice if something goes out of control and not to come up with comments 2 month after the election. The comments from now could be easily made 3 month ago and Thailand could have saved a lot of money. Still ( but that is my humble opinion) the group around K Suthep is responsible for the failure of the election as they blocked the registration and finally the election process.

And now what is the result more month of K YS leadership? An election which will further split the Nation?

I only hope the God will rain brain and this time may be more people will not use the umbrella.

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[Thai at Heart]

What a bizarre turn of events.

Whilst everyone is blaming everyone for the failed election. No one dares to.put the blame actually on the protesters.

I can only surmise that the EC doesn't want to point a finger at the PDRC so that they will be free to protest again.

Truly astonishing logic.

I await the "car had an accident" of Thai logic. The election prevented itself.

Edited March 24, 2014 by Thai at Heart

[fab4]

He said “don’t try to teach us what to do, we know our duties”.

So there was no need to get the CC involved at any stage in making rulings about the election because the EC didn't know. You knew you could order security forces to guard polling stations but you didn't and polling did not take place on the same day. You were then going to reschedule dates for voting at the stations where this did not take place but the CC ruled this out and nullified the election.

Mmm, sure looks like the EC had a real handle on the situation. Pompous ass.

[TVGerry]

"Don't try to teach us what to do"

Well said!

PTP should clean their own mess first with their secession problems and also their problems with the NACC. Don't teach others what to do when you guys are clueless.

[Spalpeen]

Thank goodness that the EC is no longer allowing itself to be bullied by people like Prompong. The EC is a constitutionally empowered agency. The administration is beholden to listen to them - not the other way around.

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And who exactly do you think the EC is accountable to then? Or maybe you think the EC can do what it likes and is not accountable to anyone.

[Thai at Heart]

He said dont try to teach us what to do, we know our duties.

So there was no need to get the CC involved at any stage in making rulings about the election because the EC didn't know. You knew you could order security forces to guard polling stations but you didn't and polling did not take place on the same day. You were then going to reschedule dates for voting at the stations where this did not take place but the CC ruled this out and nullified the election.

Mmm, sure looks like the EC had a real handle on the situation. Pompous ass.

Indeed. The fact that an interpretation was needed, shows completely that they don't know their legal obligation and the lengths to which they can and must go to in order to attempt to carry them out.

[fab4]

It is hardly the EC concern to arrange safe passage for electors , that is the duty of the Police department, that so far has been rather recalcitrant in its dealings with the protestors , the illegal obstruction of polling booths the grenade attacks on the protesters ,the speeches of hate, the threats of violence, the threat of succession to the North, road side bombs , as the man said we know what and where our duty lies , so go puff smoke somewhere else.

On the contrary they are responsible for the administration of the election, including the power to call out the security forces. From the horses mouth, as it were, (donkey is perhaps more apt)

Mr. Somchai said he was aware that the Election Commission had the power to call upon the security forces to ensure that the elections took place on time. But the law, he said, is not paramount at a time of intense turmoil. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/world/asia/thailand-election.html

[Thai at Heart]

It is hardly the EC concern to arrange safe passage for electors , that is the duty of the Police department, that so far has been rather recalcitrant in its dealings with the protestors , the illegal obstruction of polling booths the grenade attacks on the protesters ,the speeches of hate, the threats of violence, the threat of succession to the North, road side bombs , as the man said we know what and where our duty lies , so go puff smoke somewhere else.

On the contrary they are responsible for the administration of the election, including the power to call out the security forces. From the horses mouth, as it were, (donkey is perhaps more apt)

Mr. Somchai said he was aware that the Election Commission had the power to call upon the security forces to ensure that the elections took place on time. But the law, he said, is not paramount at a time of intense turmoil. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/world/asia/thailand-election.html

Yup, the fault lies completely with the PDRC and the EC. One failed in its duty due to interference from the other.

"Don't tell us how to run a failed election, we know what we are doing!"

[Fat Haggis]

So what's HE going to do to prevent a repeat of the last election fiasco? Seeing as he's telling everyone not to tell him how to do his job?

If there's any blockading of the next election, then he needs to be thrown out of office (hopefully it's a few stories high too) he has a moral duty to protect these election sites then, as well as the voting public..

Failure this time is NOT an option!!

[rubl]

It is hardly the EC concern to arrange safe passage for electors , that is the duty of the Police department, that so far has been rather recalcitrant in its dealings with the protestors , the illegal obstruction of polling booths the grenade attacks on the protesters ,the speeches of hate, the threats of violence, the threat of succession to the North, road side bombs , as the man said we know what and where our duty lies , so go puff smoke somewhere else.

On the contrary they are responsible for the administration of the election, including the power to call out the security forces. From the horses mouth, as it were, (donkey is perhaps more apt)

Mr. Somchai said he was aware that the Election Commission had the power to call upon the security forces to ensure that the elections took place on time. But the law, he said, is not paramount at a time of intense turmoil. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/world/asia/thailand-election.html

Does that mean the police security forces were not called or not available at the time? I thought Ms. Yingluck had the full cooperation of the Police Force and the CAPO helped her in that.

[ginjag]

So what's HE going to do to prevent a repeat of the last election fiasco? Seeing as he's telling everyone not to tell him how to do his job?

If there's any blockading of the next election, then he needs to be thrown out of office (hopefully it's a few stories high too) he has a moral duty to protect these election sites then, as well as the voting public..

Failure this time is NOT an option!!

You know and have conveniently forgotten that he warned Yingluck prior to the Feb 2, that they did not have time or enough manpower to run a smooth election.

SHE rebuffed his warning. Trying to be clever rushing through the election the same as steamrollering that bill in the house, both failed. She like her brother loves abusing their power.

[ramrod711]

He said the Pheu Thai should never order the EC to work as it knew well of the duties.

The PTP can't perform their own duties, they have proven that to everyone who cares about the country. As for the posters on here that think it's ok to call out the goons, run a scam on the taxpayers and defy the courts, I hope it happens in your own countries, then we'll really hear you whining. Get it through your heads, the decision has been made, if PTP or whatever name they're using this week want to be government, the Shins have to go, don't like it? Please try to post something that may be of help. I don't have any respect for terrorists, or those that support them.

[Thai at Heart]

So what's HE going to do to prevent a repeat of the last election fiasco? Seeing as he's telling everyone not to tell him how to do his job?

If there's any blockading of the next election, then he needs to be thrown out of office (hopefully it's a few stories high too) he has a moral duty to protect these election sites then, as well as the voting public..

Failure this time is NOT an option!!

You know and have conveniently forgotten that he warned Yingluck prior to the Feb 2, that they did not have time or enough manpower to run a smooth election.

SHE rebuffed his warning. Trying to be clever rushing through the election the same as steamrollering that bill in the house, both failed. She like her brother loves abusing their power.

Does that extend to things like ballot papers getting blockaded inside post offices and the such.

He has to prove that he does everything within his power to get the job done on time. Nothing more and nothing less.

[RockyBeerbelly]

While in a state of emergency the ex-govt forced the EC to hold an election. That's democracy PTP style. And because these dictators forced the election through, Thailand is left with a 3.5 Billion THB bill....money which could have been spent on the farmers

[rubl]

It is hardly the EC concern to arrange safe passage for electors , that is the duty of the Police department, that so far has been rather recalcitrant in its dealings with the protestors , the illegal obstruction of polling booths the grenade attacks on the protesters ,the speeches of hate, the threats of violence, the threat of succession to the North, road side bombs , as the man said we know what and where our duty lies , so go puff smoke somewhere else.

On the contrary they are responsible for the administration of the election, including the power to call out the security forces. From the horses mouth, as it were, (donkey is perhaps more apt)

Mr. Somchai said he was aware that the Election Commission had the power to call upon the security forces to ensure that the elections took place on time. But the law, he said, is not paramount at a time of intense turmoil. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/world/asia/thailand-election.html

somewhat earlier:

"BANGKOK, December 26, 2013 (AFP) - Thailand's election commission urged the government Thursday to postpone February polls after a policeman was shot dead and dozens of people wounded in clashes between security forces and opposition protesters in Bangkok."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/692056-thai-elections-in-doubt-after-political-violence/

[ginjag]

So what's HE going to do to prevent a repeat of the last election fiasco? Seeing as he's telling everyone not to tell him how to do his job?

If there's any blockading of the next election, then he needs to be thrown out of office (hopefully it's a few stories high too) he has a moral duty to protect these election sites then, as well as the voting public..

Failure this time is NOT an option!!

You know and have conveniently forgotten that he warned Yingluck prior to the Feb 2, that they did not have time or enough manpower to run a smooth election.

SHE rebuffed his warning. Trying to be clever rushing through the election the same as steamrollering that bill in the house, both failed. She like her brother loves abusing their power.

Does that extend to things like ballot papers getting blockaded inside post offices and the such.

He has to prove that he does everything within his power to get the job done on time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Again you failed to recognize the steamrollering of something like this, You didn't reply to my posts main points, avoiding the truth, all your reply was a skirting of the reasons AS USUAL. wakey wakey.

[RockyBeerbelly]

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It is hardly the EC concern to arrange safe passage for electors , that is the duty of the Police department, that so far has been rather recalcitrant in its dealings with the protestors , the illegal obstruction of polling booths the grenade attacks on the protesters ,the speeches of hate, the threats of violence, the threat of succession to the North, road side bombs , as the man said we know what and where our duty lies , so go puff smoke somewhere else.

On the contrary they are responsible for the administration of the election, including the power to call out the security forces. From the horses mouth, as it were, (donkey is perhaps more apt)

Mr. Somchai said he was aware that the Election Commission had the power to call upon the security forces to ensure that the elections took place on time. But the law, he said, is not paramount at a time of intense turmoil. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/world/asia/thailand-election.html

Yup, the fault lies completely with the PDRC and the EC. One failed in its duty due to interference from the other.

"Don't tell us how to run a failed election, we know what we are doing!"

It failed because of the ignorance and stupidity of Yingluck and her ex-govt. She forced the elections to go through....

[Thai at Heart]

So what's HE going to do to prevent a repeat of the last election fiasco? Seeing as he's telling everyone not to tell him how to do his job?

If there's any blockading of the next election, then he needs to be thrown out of office (hopefully it's a few stories high too) he has a moral duty to protect these election sites then, as well as the voting public..

Failure this time is NOT an option!!

You know and have conveniently forgotten that he warned Yingluck prior to the Feb 2, that they did not have time or enough manpower to run a smooth election.

SHE rebuffed his warning. Trying to be clever rushing through the election the same as steamrollering that bill in the house, both failed. She like her brother loves abusing their power.

Does that extend to things like ballot papers getting blockaded inside post offices and the such.

He has to prove that he does everything within his power to get the job done on time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Again you failed to recognize the steamrollering of something like this, You didn't reply to my posts main points, avoiding the truth, all your reply was a skirting of the reasons AS USUAL. wakey wakey.

They could have legally at most postponed it 4 days. Beyond that, giving the government and the EC the right to postpone is not in the constitution and is fraught with legal danger I believe.

The CC should have given the power to the EC solely. The election was not steam.rollered, it was held just inside the constitutionally madsated time frame. The EC couldn't complete it due to protest and interference. I don't understand why this is so hard to see.

All the government does is announce the election. It is the ECs job to complete it within a time frame. If people interfere they have broken the law. I don't see what there is to debate.

[Thai at Heart]

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It is hardly the EC concern to arrange safe passage for electors , that is the duty of the Police department, that so far has been rather recalcitrant in its dealings with the protestors , the illegal obstruction of polling booths the grenade attacks on the protesters ,the speeches of hate, the threats of violence, the threat of succession to the North, road side bombs , as the man said we know what and where our duty lies , so go puff smoke somewhere else.

On the contrary they are responsible for the administration of the election, including the power to call out the security forces. From the horses mouth, as it were, (donkey is perhaps more apt)

Mr. Somchai said he was aware that the Election Commission had the power to call upon the security forces to ensure that the elections took place on time. But the law, he said, is not paramount at a time of intense turmoil. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/world/asia/thailand-election.html

Yup, the fault lies completely with the PDRC and the EC. One failed in its duty due to interference from the other.

"Don't tell us how to run a failed election, we know what we are doing!"

It failed because of the ignorance and stupidity of Yingluck and her ex-govt. She forced the elections to go through....

Where in the constitution does it say that the government can postpone an election once the date is set.

You do realise the potential long term ramifications of giving that power to a government.

Why should the vote be postponed because a minority of place may not vote. That is minority report legalese. You can't know exactly which areas won't vote, if you dont try to vote. It is not down to the govenment to say,

Ahhh, boo hop we heard some place won't vote, so we cancel the election. That is the first and simplest turn to dictatorship.

[Pimay1]

He said “don’t try to teach us what to do, we know our duties”.

In other words, up yours PTP. It's about time someone told this illegitimate wan#ing heap of hi-so crooks to stick their misguided directives where the sun doesn't shine.

[dutchisaan]

So what's HE going to do to prevent a repeat of the last election fiasco? Seeing as he's telling everyone not to tell him how to do his job?

If there's any blockading of the next election, then he needs to be thrown out of office (hopefully it's a few stories high too) he has a moral duty to protect these election sites then, as well as the voting public..

Failure this time is NOT an option!!

You know and have conveniently forgotten that he warned Yingluck prior to the Feb 2, that they did not have time or enough manpower to run a smooth election.

SHE rebuffed his warning. Trying to be clever rushing through the election the same as steamrollering that bill in the house, both failed. She like her brother loves abusing their power.

Does that extend to things like ballot papers getting blockaded inside post offices and the such.

He has to prove that he does everything within his power to get the job done on time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Why don't you tell your dear leader to prove to do everything in her power to get the job done, nothing more and nothing less. And when you at it, ask her to proof as where the money went on the rice scheme.

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[RockyBeerbelly]

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Does that extend to things like ballot papers getting blockaded inside post offices and the such.

He has to prove that he does everything within his power to get the job done on time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Again you failed to recognize the steamrollering of something like this, You didn't reply to my posts main points, avoiding the truth, all your reply was a skirting of the reasons AS USUAL. wakey wakey.

They could have legally at most postponed it 4 days. Beyond that, giving the government and the EC the right to postpone is not in the constitution and is fraught with legal danger I believe.

The CC should have given the power to the EC solely. The election was not steam.rollered, it was held just inside the constitutionally madsated time frame. The EC couldn't complete it due to protest and interference. I don't understand why this is so hard to see.

All the government does is announce the election. It is the ECs job to complete it within a time frame. If people interfere they have broken the law. I don't see what there is to debate.

....and if Yingluck breaks many laws, there is also nothing to debate......but then it is different of course, because then the laws are written to support the elite

[xminator]

The duties of the Election Comission is to make sure there is no General Election. Of course this success means a huge bonus for the members of EC, as the savings during 2nd feb election was huge. Now another big budget is heading their way, so pension is secured.

[Thai at Heart]

So what's HE going to do to prevent a repeat of the last election fiasco? Seeing as he's telling everyone not to tell him how to do his job?

If there's any blockading of the next election, then he needs to be thrown out of office (hopefully it's a few stories high too) he has a moral duty to protect these election sites then, as well as the voting public..

Failure this time is NOT an option!!

You know and have conveniently forgotten that he warned Yingluck prior to the Feb 2, that they did not have time or enough manpower to run a smooth election.

SHE rebuffed his warning. Trying to be clever rushing through the election the same as steamrollering that bill in the house, both failed. She like her brother loves abusing their power.

Does that extend to things like ballot papers getting blockaded inside post offices and the such.

He has to prove that he does everything within his power to get the job done on time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Why don't you tell your dear leader to prove to do everything in her power to get the job done, nothing more and nothing less. And when you at it, ask her to proof as where the money went on the rice scheme.

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She will get judges in time.

So who prevented the election being completed?

Yingluck by pushing it through? Once again, the falang is always wrong in an accident logic. If PTP hadn't held the election it wouldn't have been prevented. Screwy logic in the extreme.

This situation is about.constitutional obligation not what anyone fancies doing.

[ginjag]

You know and have conveniently forgotten that he warned Yingluck prior to the Feb 2, that they did not have time or enough manpower to run a smooth election.

SHE rebuffed his warning. Trying to be clever rushing through the election the same as steamrollering that bill in the house, both failed. She like her brother loves abusing their power.

Does that extend to things like ballot papers getting blockaded inside post offices and the such.

He has to prove that he does everything within his power to get the job done on time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Why don't you tell your dear leader to prove to do everything in her power to get the job done, nothing more and nothing less. And when you at it, ask her to proof as where the money went on the rice scheme.

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She will get judges in time.

So who prevented the election being completed?

Yingluck by pushing it through? Once again, the falang is always wrong in an accident logic. If PTP hadn't held the election it wouldn't have been prevented. Screwy logic in the extreme.

This situation is about.constitutional obligation not what anyone fancies doing.

Come off it-you know full well why she wanted to bamboozle through the election, and you know she was well aware of opposition to it. The girl made an error by listening to Dubai.

[RockyBeerbelly]

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It failed because of the ignorance and stupidity of Yingluck and her ex-govt. She forced the elections to go through....

Where in the constitution does it say that the government can postpone an election once the date is set.

You do realise the potential long term ramifications of giving that power to a government.

Why should the vote be postponed because a minority of place may not vote. That is minority report legalese. You can't know exactly which areas won't vote, if you dont try to vote. It is not down to the govenment to say,

Ahhh, boo hop we heard some place won't vote, so we cancel the election. That is the first and simplest turn to dictatorship.

Didn't the EC advised NOT to hold the election as fast as Yingluck suggested? Didn't Yingluck disregard this advice and pushed the elections through at any cost? We all understand why she did this, and that too was very undemocratic....

Dictatorship is introducing illegal laws (eg. amnesty bill), or pushing a 2 trillion THB loan and not accept check and balances, dictatorship is not advising the govt to consider postponing the elections, and dictatorship is definitely not nullifying an election when the results are unconstitutional....