Red-shirt followers force the cancellation of a concert in Nonthaburi

[bangarang]

Another reason why Thais need better education... I dont like you so I will make your life a living hell because I said so.

[metisdead]

A post calling for violence has been removed as well as the replies.

[Prbkk]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

[ginjag]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

Welcome back, Always the others isn't it ??? And I thought you were mellowing.

[ggt]

Just imagine...what the country would look like after a few years of Red-Shirt government and policies...reminds me of some of the shenanigans that went on in Cambodia years ago...purges of certain groups of people...destroying complete institutions...criminal activity on every level...this kind of activity...unlawfully forcing people to bend to one's personal views...does not bode well...for Thailand's future...

Edited March 28, 2014 by ggt

[Mentors]

Everything has began with the Yellow Fascists and their stone-age ideology. No Yellow Shirts, no Red-Shirts. Many seems to have forget this fact.

[Bluespunk]

Everything has began with the Yellow Fascists and their stone-age ideology. No Yellow Shirts, no Red-Shirts. Many seems to have forget this fact.

Fact?

[ginjag]

Everything has began with the Yellow Fascists and their stone-age ideology. No Yellow Shirts, no Red-Shirts. Many seems to have forget this fact.

Did it start with them ???? memory loss ???

[pmugghc]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

This thread isn't about Suthep or what he's done. It's about this artist and how he was blocked from performing. I have no clue about his talents, it doesn't matter. But should we interpret your post it was OK to block him, since in your opinion he's a "publicity junkie, B list singer"? You're just pathetic!

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[bigbamboo]

Everything has began with the Yellow Fascists and their stone-age ideology. No Yellow Shirts, no Red-Shirts. Many seems to have forget this fact.

Is that what they told you in red school?

This particular crew of redshirts are so anti social the police have even started to arrest them when they're caught tooled up. What's that all about?

Edited March 28, 2014 by bigbamboo

[Wombat6]

Musicians aren't allowed to have a personal opinion that differs from the fanatic Red Shirt opinions.

This is a musician who earns his living performing. If they didn't like him, don't go to his concert. What would these redshirts think if he went around Isaan burning red shirt rice farmers' crops.

[Wombat6]

Everything has began with the Yellow Fascists and their stone-age ideology. No Yellow Shirts, no Red-Shirts. Many seems to have forget this fact.

It's a wonder you don't support them with your Stone Age Ideology.

[Wombat6]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

Everything pales in significence to the damage to the Thai economy caused by Yingluck/Thaksins vote buying Rice Pledging Schemes plus other ill thought out schemes

[aussieinthailand]

Did the mob beat up any monks while they were at it?

Well I think not, nor did they bash a loan taxi driver or intimidate elderly woman on buses, ya get what is being said here???

but Hey they also DID NOT bash, beat threaten, intimidate, and prevent people from voting, a concert, ye'p I'd be a lil pissed if I bought a ticket, but hey man a lot of people have a whole lot more important issues with their vote being respected than some gig, fair call yeah.

[Phuket Stan]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

Better to be a "has been" than a "never wasa"......

If u like to take a few minutes out of your blagging time to check this performer out you will find that he has been honoured by his peers several times....your comments do not say very much about the respect you have for the arts or performers of your host country....I repeat it is better to be a "has been" than a "never wasa"

[thaiguzzi]

Everything has began with the Yellow Fascists and their stone-age ideology. No Yellow Shirts, no Red-Shirts. Many seems to have forget this fact.

Did it start with them ???? memory loss ???

Yep, it did start with them.

[thaiguzzi]

Ok. I'll bite. Phuket - Sek Loso. Now who started stopping concerts this 2013/14 season?

[HerbalEd]

And you all seem to have succinctly forgotten Uncle Suthep's moves to Ch7 and Ch3 targeting them for not giving them enough airtime? And personally attacking one of Thailand's best commentators, Khun Sorayud, for not talking about them on his shows.

Selective memory recall does not lead to balanced thinking.

Here we go again; what you can do, I can do better, tit for tat. Honestly you people are like children, are you going to tell your dad also.

Actually, you seem to be doing the same thing.

[tilac2]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

Welcome back, Always the others isn't it ??? And I thought you were mellowing.

Why would Prbkk be "mellowing"? Why would anyone think it is okay that this lunatic, Suthep, should take over large areas of Bangkok?

This behavior is not 'okay'. In most other countries in the world this madman, Suthep, would be arrested and thrown in prison. The reason he isn't, quite obviously, is that he is supported at the very highest levels. He has his own private army. He can do what he wants in Bangkok. He is supported by the Army.

Among the few forces standing against Suthep are the PT party and the red shirts.

In my opinion (but probably not in Prbkk's, because I am a genuine socialist whereas he is probably simply a believer in democracy) the red shirts should be supported. So I say, in case anyone thinks all falangs are conservatives, "long live the red shirts"!

[Malone]

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A UDD member would not be a true UDD member without satisfying their need to impose cultural conformity and intolerance. It just wouldn't be right to allow others to express their views or even sing their music. If they're the " wrong type of people " - well, that's all they need. The UDD believe in democracy. But not free expression. Please contact Thida for further clarification.

Their is not really freedom of expression in Thailand otherwise we could discuss a lot of issues.

In 10 years things will be different in Thailand.

Is that when Thaksin quits politics?

[pmugghc]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

Welcome back, Always the others isn't it ??? And I thought you were mellowing.

Why would Prbkk be "mellowing"? Why would anyone think it is okay that this lunatic, Suthep, should take over large areas of Bangkok?

This behavior is not 'okay'. In most other countries in the world this madman, Suthep, would be arrested and thrown in prison. The reason he isn't, quite obviously, is that he is supported at the very highest levels. He has his own private army. He can do what he wants in Bangkok. He is supported by the Army.

Among the few forces standing against Suthep are the PT party and the red shirts.

In my opinion (but probably not in Prbkk's, because I am a genuine socialist whereas he is probably simply a believer in democracy) the red shirts should be supported. So I say, in case anyone thinks all falangs are conservatives, "long live the red shirts"!

OK, some honesty which deserves some respect. Do I interpret you right that what you want is a socialist but not a democratic state? More like Cuba? Obviously a Republic?

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Edited March 28, 2014 by pmugghc

[Malone]

You people are banging the red sirts for all this and not saying anything about suthep and

Yes, amazing that on a thread concerning red shirts, that people are posting on topic and not going aimlessly off topic.

[Arjay]

What happened to the redshirts cry for democracy? Last time I checked democracy was freedom of speech and liberty and tolerance of different political views.

[JesseFrank]

Did the mob beat up any monks while they were at it?

No, disappointed?

Surprised only.

[Malone]

Everything has began with the Yellow Fascists and their stone-age ideology. No Yellow Shirts, no Red-Shirts. Many seems to have forget this fact.

That being a lie probably helped people to forget the lie.

[Marcel1]

I can see how Pongpat's opinions expressed would upset the Red Shirts.

Great speech, loved it

[tilac2]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

Welcome back, Always the others isn't it ??? And I thought you were mellowing.

Why would Prbkk be "mellowing"? Why would anyone think it is okay that this lunatic, Suthep, should take over large areas of Bangkok?

This behavior is not 'okay'. In most other countries in the world this madman, Suthep, would be arrested and thrown in prison. The reason he isn't, quite obviously, is that he is supported at the very highest levels. He has his own private army. He can do what he wants in Bangkok. He is supported by the Army.

Among the few forces standing against Suthep are the PT party and the red shirts.

In my opinion (but probably not in Prbkk's, because I am a genuine socialist whereas he is probably simply a believer in democracy) the red shirts should be supported. So I say, in case anyone thinks all falangs are conservatives, "long live the red shirts"!

OK, some honesty which deserves some respect. Do I interpret you right that what you want is a socialist but not a democratic state? More like Cuba? Obviously a Republic?

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Thanks. A good question.

I favour democracy based on what the voters vote for. I realise that democracy is a flawed system, in that the voters can be 'bribed' by offering them attractive policies that will appeal to them (in Thailand that includes rice subsidies, the first car scheme, the 30 Baht health scheme). But in the long term, surely, such schemes will be revealed as bad or otherwise, and therefore will attract votes or otherwise. Thus, maybe, if we're lucky, such schemes will face the test of 'natural selection' and will die out if they are proven to be stupid (in my opinion the rice subsidy and first car scheme would be high on the list of 'stupids', but that's just my opinion).

re Cuba: I'd suggest that there are some good things about Cuba, in that it has excellent health and education policies, but if you talk to Cubans they will tell you that they live in 'a prison'. Probably what they don't realise is that some so-called 'free' countries like Thailand are utterly dominated by capitalist sytems derived from America and the west. These systems are taking over the Thai 'way of life' and even 'way of eating'. Look into a typical 7/11 store in Thailand and tell us if you can find any healthy food? You almost can't. This country has been taken over by corporations, which don't care at all if they sell palm oil-dominated foods.

But, with all that, if one had to decide whether to live in a Cuba-style society or a Thai-style society, I guess most of us would still go for the Thai one.

I don't believe that I am allowed to comment here on the high-level system of government in Thailand, though I think it would be okay to state that there are some constitutional monarchies in the world (Netherlands, Spain, UK) which seem to operate quite well. I can see no reason why Thailand should not be among that group -- or should not become among that group -- of countries. I'd suggest that one first step could be to impel the criminals who run the 'fast food' industry here to reduce their fat-rich, heart-destroying products in the 7-11 stores.

Edited March 28, 2014 by tilac2

[rreddin]

Did the mob beat up any monks while they were at it?

This is not the first time a naive entertainer with certain political views and or links, with an even more naive or greedy manager, has accepted a gig in territory hostile to his views. What did he expect? He should sack his manager. There is probably more than enough work for him in other parts of the country without the need to court controversy. Entertainers, be they thespians or musicians, have far too high an opinion of themselves and their opinions. This one had a wake up call. I hope he learned from it.

[pmugghc]

People on here complaining about mob rule. Some very convenient memory lapses, ignoring the fact of the Suthep led mob that has closed many services to people who need them , inconvenienced millions, caused untold damage to the economy. Perhaps that is less significant than a cancelled concert by a publicity junkie, B list singer

Welcome back, Always the others isn't it ??? And I thought you were mellowing.

Why would Prbkk be "mellowing"? Why would anyone think it is okay that this lunatic, Suthep, should take over large areas of Bangkok?

This behavior is not 'okay'. In most other countries in the world this madman, Suthep, would be arrested and thrown in prison. The reason he isn't, quite obviously, is that he is supported at the very highest levels. He has his own private army. He can do what he wants in Bangkok. He is supported by the Army.

Among the few forces standing against Suthep are the PT party and the red shirts.

In my opinion (but probably not in Prbkk's, because I am a genuine socialist whereas he is probably simply a believer in democracy) the red shirts should be supported. So I say, in case anyone thinks all falangs are conservatives, "long live the red shirts"!

OK, some honesty which deserves some respect. Do I interpret you right that what you want is a socialist but not a democratic state? More like Cuba? Obviously a Republic?

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Thanks. A good question.

I favour democracy based on what the voters vote for. I realise that democracy is a flawed system, in that the voters can be 'bribed' by offering them attractive policies that will appeal to them (in Thailand that includes rice subsidies, the first car scheme, the 30 Baht health scheme). But in the long term, surely, such schemes will be revealed as bad or otherwise, and therefore will attract votes or otherwise. Thus, maybe, if we're lucky, such schemes will face the test of 'natural selection' and will die out if they are proven to be stupid (in my opinion the rice subsidy and first car scheme would be high on the list of 'stupids', but that's just my opinion).

re Cuba: I'd suggest that there are some good things about Cuba, in that it has excellent health and education policies, but if you talk to Cubans they will tell you that they live in 'a prison'. Probably what they don't realise is that some so-called 'free' countries like Thailand are utterly dominated by capitalist sytems derived from America and the west. These systems are taking over the Thai 'way of life' and even 'way of eating'. Look into a typical 7/11 store in Thailand and tell us if you can find any healthy food? You almost can't. This country has been taken over by corporations, which don't care at all if they sell palm oil-dominated foods.

But, with all that, if one had to decide whether to live in a Cuba-style society or a Thai-style society, I guess most of us would still go for the Thai one.

I don't believe that I am allowed to comment here on the high-level system of government in Thailand, though I think it would be okay to state that there are some constitutional monarchies in the world (Netherlands, Spain, UK) which seem to operate quite well. I can see no reason why Thailand should not be among that group -- or should not become among that group -- of countries. I'd suggest that one first step could be to impel the criminals who run the 'fast food' industry here to reduce their fat-rich, heart-destroying products in the 7-11 stores.

Yes we must leave out the higher institutions. You're bringing up some very valid health issues. But the way to deal with that should be better regulations AND law enforcement in my opinion.

End of the day: what is the right balance of a government "nanny state" vs freedom of choice?

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[tilac2]

I can see how Pongpat's opinions expressed would upset the Red Shirts.

Great speech, loved it

This is fascism. Come and say this stupid nonsence in Khon Kaen or Chiang Rai and see if we'd put up with your nonsense.

Please stay in Bangkok, you so-and-so.

Edited March 28, 2014 by tilac2