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Red Shirts will hold mass rally in Aksa Road: UDD chair
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BANGKOK, April 1 -- The United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD), Thailands's red shirts group, will hold a mass rally Saturday in Aksa Road in Nakhon Pathom's Buddhamonthon and the gathering is expected to last 2-3 days, according to UDD chairman Jatuporn Prompan.

Mr Jatuporn said that more than 500,000 red shirts are expected to turn up at the group's Saturday mass rally to show that the UDD has more supporters than the anti-government protesters, the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).

He urged the pro-government UDD to prepare to continue their demonstration for at least several days.

Thida Thavornseth, former chairwoman of the UDD, said that the group has chosen to hold mass rally at Aksa Road near Buddhamonthon because the venue is an expansive area and would not cause any trouble or difficulties to the general public.

Ms Thida claimed that the April 5 rally was considered a rehearsal because the group has not held a major gathering for a long time. It would definitely not be the last fight because the fight for the people will not be final.

"We do not fight for any particular person but we fight for the benefit of the general public," she said.

Meanwhile, caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra told reporters that she worried about the mass rallies and has assigned CAPO, the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), to closely monitor the situation and provide safety equally to all groups.

She instructed CAPO to prevent any confrontation between the rival groups and ensure the safety of the general public.

PDRC leader Suthep Thaugsuban earlier announced that a major assembly of protest leaders nationwide will be held this Saturday to map out a new offensive strategy and set a date for what he is calling the "big battle." (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-04-01

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Northeastern UDD leader, Anuwat Tinnarat, said the mass rally on April 5 will be joined by 200,000 pro-government protesters.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/34572/

-- Thai PBS 2014-04-01

[Thait Spot]

"We do not fight for any particular person" just Thaksin and his money.

I see they did nothing for the dead rice farmers

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[MikeOboe57]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

[Scamper]

" We do not fight for any particular person but we fight for the benefit of the general public," she said. "

No you don't. You fight for Thaksin. Period.

It is interesting that Thida describes this rally as a " rehearsal ", because they haven't " held a major gathering for a long time ". One gets the feeling she already knows that Jatuporn's 500,000 will never materialize. At the outset of the UDD rally in 2010, independent foreign estimates put the UDD turnout at between 100,000 and 120,000. But after two days, it sharply declined, and never gained anything near that again. That 100,000 to 120,000 was the largest gathering the UDD ever reached. What Jatuporn promises is five times that amount. One wonders why he boxes himself in like that time and time again, other than simply assuming that his followers forget what he says as easily as he does.

From the public's point of view, however, it better be peaceful. Unlike the UDD, the people of Bangkok have very good memories.

[bigbamboo]

First UDD rally for a long time. I guess that must mean the coffers are full again.

The reds need a good showing though as Sooty's gang have been able to put up some impressive numbers on occasion and the UDD head honchos won't want to have to come up with any more lame excuses when hardly anyone turns up.

Better get TAT's number counters in to be on the safe side.

typo

Edited April 1, 2014 by bigbamboo

[marcusd]

I thought she stepped down. What a cow this woman is. FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE... indeed! Where are you fighting? What are you fighting for? To get rice farmers paid? I NEVER see reds stating this is an objective.

[philw]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

Probably like a road.

Instead of stocking the fridge and hiding away, why not get out and talk to the Thai people who are standing up for and defending their democratic rights ?

You know, mingle a bit.

[Rich teacher]

First UDD rally for a long time. I guess that must mean the coffers are full again.

??

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

Probably like a road.

Instead of stocking the fridge and hiding away, why not get out and talk to the Thai people who are standing up for and defending their democratic rights ?

You know, mingle a bit.

How do you "mingle" with terrorists? Talk about hand grenades or how to best build cheap bombs?

[winstonc]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

Probably like a road.

Instead of stocking the fridge and hiding away, why not get out and talk to the Thai people who are standing up for and defending their democratic rights ?

You know, mingle a bit.

hes a farang cant get involved you would know that if you paid attention ...they will give him the middle finger like today..cos they aint the brightest are they .or the best looking..

[Andrew65]

Firstly, I come from the UK, just to put my comments in context.

Do any of my compatriots or any other nationals in Thailand see similarities between what is happening today, in Thailand, and what happened in the UK and other countries

in the whole of the 20th century?

Re: class struggle.

I do not consider myself rigidly, a capitalist; socialist, etc.

Britain had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century. I surmise that we are seeing a similar process in our beloved Thailand.

There is staggering amounts of wealth in Thailand, as there is in our respective countries. It would be nice to see it spread around a bit more evenly!

Andy

[american12bthai]

wow, the audacity of this cow using such a holy site. Buddamonthon. is a beautiful park. and now she is bringing her scum ... to a well manicured part of town? to trash it with her garbage? if i see one... litter... i will have a fit. if they trample on these beautiful sunflower fields. or toss garbage in the ponds... i will... beat the living piss... out of them. just wait. i will be in the news. this pisses me off. i need a drink.

[bigbamboo]

First UDD rally for a long time. I guess that must mean the coffers are full again.

??

Pay attention at the back.

[Spartakos]

500 000, wow that's a target. Even if they round up every village idiot they will fail to gather that much. How much is the "rent a red shirt protester" fee now?

[MikeOboe57]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

Probably like a road.

Instead of stocking the fridge and hiding away, why not get out and talk to the Thai people who are standing up for and defending their democratic rights ?

You know, mingle a bit.

hes a farang cant get involved you would know that if you paid attention ...they will give him the middle finger like today..cos they aint the brightest are they .or the best looking..

Dear philw,

Just google "Bangkok Aksa road". Maybe you will get my point.

Thanks a million for your suggestion to "mingle". However, as I have witnessed first hand the results of civil wars in various countries as peacekeeper and UNMO, I can safely assume that people who come to Bangkok to listen to speeches of Jatuporn, Nattawut, Ko Tee and other characters will not be too enthusiastic to listen to my opinions. And I have had my fair share of conversations with individuals who advocate or committed violence like "commanders" of various armed militias or Serbian snipers in Bosnia or even just simply cheer such events, so the curiosity factor has worn off.

When you are in a country where you stick out like a sore thumb you should know when to keep a low profile. And my experience tells me this red shirt convention is such a situation.

But I am sure that our esteemed forum member Freiherr N. will cover this event in the best light possible - literally and figuratively. By the way, where is he? Not that I miss him...

[slapout]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

Probably like a road.

Instead of stocking the fridge and hiding away, why not get out and talk to the Thai people who are standing up for and defending their democratic rights ?

You know, mingle a bit.

I will leave the mingling to those who have antied into the pot. They are the ones who seem to think they have the winning hand. The problem seems to be as in many table stakes, no lmit games its not a good place for most wannabe gamblers to learn the odds of the draw vs the investment that they can loose. Especially as some of the players apparently come prepared for a showdown which does not refer to the cards, they carry.

I have managed to live through some pertty dicey times by picking, chosing and playing the odds that favor me, and not letting some wannabe political hack do so, but you have a good day at what could be a zoo with all the animals on the loose..

[PatOngo]

"the UDD has more supporters than the anti-government protesters, the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC)."

Red Fred's way of saying his dick is bigger than Southern Man's........but I don't believe him.

[Smokemachine]

For the red side, i always believe they can mobilize huge crowd. of course the big boss pocket is getting a big hole as well.

But if this time low turnout will be very pathetic.

Even been paid to attend, people also not coming. Then what does this signal at?

[dcutman]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

Probably like a road.

Instead of stocking the fridge and hiding away, why not get out and talk to the Thai people who are standing up for and defending their democratic rights ?

You know, mingle a bit.

Yeah Mingle, and maybe have a good laugh about children getting murdered in Trat, then chit chat a bit more how Red democracy works, and if there is time, go over the Red School curriculum.

[ballpoint]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

Probably like a road.

Instead of stocking the fridge and hiding away, why not get out and talk to the Thai people who are standing up for and defending their democratic rights ?

You know, mingle a bit.

Yeah Mingle, and maybe have a good laugh about children getting murdered in Trat, then chit chat a bit more how Red democracy works, and if there is time, go over the Red School curriculum.

And afterwards go and find a lone monk to beat up

[Asiantravel]

Firstly, I come from the UK, just to put my comments in context.

Do any of my compatriots or any other nationals in Thailand see similarities between what is happening today, in Thailand, and what happened in the UK and other countries

in the whole of the 20th century?

Re: class struggle.

I do not consider myself rigidly, a capitalist; socialist, etc.

Britain had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century. I surmise that we are seeing a similar process in our beloved Thailand.

There is staggering amounts of wealth in Thailand, as there is in our respective countries. It would be nice to see it spread around a bit more evenly!

Andy

" Do any of my compatriots or any other nationals in Thailand see similarities between what is happening today, in Thailand, and what happened in the UK and other countries ?"

These are grassroots uprisings cross-fertilized perhaps from a world contagion yet they often have similarities – corrupt governments. Turkey, Ukraine, Thailand, Venezuela and Bosnia-Herzegovina are all middle-income democracies with elected leaders besieged by people angry at misgovernment, corruption and economic sclerosis

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/31/the-age-of-civil-unrest/

[givenall]

of course every one knows Jatuporn filed math and he really doe not know how much 500k is

[Baerboxer]

Firstly, I come from the UK, just to put my comments in context.

Do any of my compatriots or any other nationals in Thailand see similarities between what is happening today, in Thailand, and what happened in the UK and other countries

in the whole of the 20th century?

Re: class struggle.

I do not consider myself rigidly, a capitalist; socialist, etc.

Britain had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century. I surmise that we are seeing a similar process in our beloved Thailand.

There is staggering amounts of wealth in Thailand, as there is in our respective countries. It would be nice to see it spread around a bit more evenly!

Andy

No.

This is about two factions - Thaksin's gang based around his family versus old Amart gang based around the old controlling families. These factions vie for control of the corruption and maintaining feudal hierarchical control. Neither gives a fig for the poor, working class peasants as both factions are extremely wealthy and have no intentions of changing anything other than for their own benefit and enrichment.

Thaksin twigged he'd be better off portray his gang as fighting for the people and democracy, which they don't. The other side try to play the patriotic nationalist card. That's just for show.

More like a struggle in 16th Century Italy or in 15th Century England. The powerful families compete for the wealth. A small proportion are ridiculously wealthy, and ever suck more out for themselves, the majority impoverished and denied education so as the restrict their ambitions.

Another couple of hundred years before Thailand get to the 18th and 19th Centuries!

[givenall]

For the red side, i always believe they can mobilize huge crowd. of course the big boss pocket is getting a big hole as well.

But if this time low turnout will be very pathetic.

Even been paid to attend, people also not coming. Then what does this signal at?

well means PDCR will call and raise by few thousand.

what does it make any difference when both side estimate the number themselves and no independent accounting available that can be trusted

[casualbiker]

I thought the Royal Prince had a house just off Aksa Road. Interesting!

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[Eric Loh]

Don't really need the UDD to rally to show their strength. The PDRC is fading rapidly and yesterday massive traffic jam due to bridge blockage have upset more of their supporters. The senate do not have the numbers to impeach and the military is staying neutral. By Songkran, most will leave Lumpini Park and not come back. Final days for Suterp.

[Pikeybkk]

Right on our doorstep. Thanks for the warning, TV. We will stock up our fridge and stay at home. The Barommaratchachonnanee Rd. will be clogged the full length anyway during this "event".

I wonder what that beautiful Aksa road will look like when the red rabble has left.

most likely will look like the dump it is before they came

[Mentors]

I hope no one will attend the rallies of both sides.

If everyone stays away, maybe, just maybe the Yellow and Red will realise, who the silence majority is. - never give up hope...

[Mentors]

I thought the Royal Prince had a house just off Aksa Road. Interesting!

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+ 1 (with silence)