inbangkok Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 very difficult now to get generic tramodol, the only place I know sometimes has it is still Boots, but it's about 300 baht for 10 so not generic I assume, they make you sign for it. Only trouble with it and similar drugs is it can cause bad constipation I believe that is "Ultracet". It is low dose tramadol mixed with paracetamol. A very good example of a pharma company scamming the consumer. They take two very old, generic drugs.... Combine them in 1 pill and charge tons of money for it under brand name status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 very difficult now to get generic tramodol, the only place I know sometimes has it is still Boots, but it's about 300 baht for 10 so not generic I assume, they make you sign for it. Only trouble with it and similar drugs is it can cause bad constipation I believe that is "Ultracet". It is low dose tramadol mixed with paracetamol. A very good example of a pharma company scamming the consumer. They take two very old, generic drugs.... Combine them in 1 pill and charge tons of money for it under brand name status. Yes i agree Sheryl, they dont have the same affect as when i first was on them .. but i am under my doctors supervision..and he is comfortable with it all.. we have planned a visit to a pain management specialist.. here in Aust, and we have considered other pain killers too ... so i will see what he says when i visit him. Yes its not easy when you have had a very major car accident .. as inbangkok said ... you just do the best you can ... i know when i get a new doctor.. for reviewing my script... when he reads my injury list.. it certainly raises his eyebrows and comments.. how i survived it ... just young and fit at the time .. the only thing that saved me ... yes i have constipation issues sometimes .. but not really a problem.. maybe in early days it was ? yes i think Big Pharma is cashing in with LOS... as with most countries .. im sure they get most drugs from India for `Peanuts !! and resell for big profilt ... usual way ok thanks for your help here... i think i understand now.... what to do ... by the way ..i live my life independently and manage quite well,,, i just need this to get by after chronic pain takes over ,, and nothing else works ,, for me to sleep or relax.... also depends on the weather too.. so i was hoping warmer climate would be better as i get older ... it is very noticeable when the climate changes rapidly ... Thanks again for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 very difficult now to get generic tramodol, the only place I know sometimes has it is still Boots, but it's about 300 baht for 10 so not generic I assume, they make you sign for it. Only trouble with it and similar drugs is it can cause bad constipation I believe that is "Ultracet". It is low dose tramadol mixed with paracetamol. A very good example of a pharma company scamming the consumer. They take two very old, generic drugs.... Combine them in 1 pill and charge tons of money for it under brand name status. No it's not they sell that as well and have bought both, tramodol is pure codiene ultacet is with paracetomol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 very difficult now to get generic tramodol, the only place I know sometimes has it is still Boots, but it's about 300 baht for 10 so not generic I assume, they make you sign for it. Only trouble with it and similar drugs is it can cause bad constipation I believe that is "Ultracet". It is low dose tramadol mixed with paracetamol. A very good example of a pharma company scamming the consumer. They take two very old, generic drugs.... Combine them in 1 pill and charge tons of money for it under brand name status. No it's not they sell that as well and have bought both, tramodol is pure codiene ultacet is with paracetomol "tramodol is pure codiene" That is news ! But you are mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inbangkok Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 very difficult now to get generic tramodol, the only place I know sometimes has it is still Boots, but it's about 300 baht for 10 so not generic I assume, they make you sign for it. Only trouble with it and similar drugs is it can cause bad constipationI believe that is "Ultracet". It is low dose tramadol mixed with paracetamol. A very good example of a pharma company scamming the consumer. They take two very old, generic drugs.... Combine them in 1 pill and charge tons of money for it under brand name status. No it's not they sell that as well and have bought both, tramodol is pure codiene ultacet is with paracetomol Um, no. Tramadol and codeine are different drugs...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 No idea how things work in Australia if your not there in person.. Talking to a guy last month [known for past 11 years] lives 2 Villages away, he is from UK in his 80's and is still registered with his UK Dr, he get his Medication free, he says he just e-mails his Dr and the meds are sent over.. or if his ex or his son are coming here then they go to his UK Dr and pick them up and bring them... just wonder if that could be an option ? Receiving controlled substances through the mail? Absolutely not. Could get into major legal trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Addiction potential for tramadaol is less than with vicodan by far. But addiction can occur. As best as I can determine, tramadol is still legal for OTC sale but the FDA is strictly enforcing requirement that all sales be recorded and reported monthly and a first class pharmacist be on duty at all times. And they seem to be scrutinizing sales records and questioning unusually large sales. Actually these rules have always been in place and pertain to a large number of drugs, including antibiotics, but in practice are not strictly enforced as a rule. Due to some recent highly publicized events they are now being strictly enforced for tramadol. Many pharmacies have simply decided it is not worth the trouble. When they say "not allowed to order" they may mean, not allowed by their boss...not that it is not allowed by law or the FDA. There are some pharmacies still ordering, receiving and selling it but they will ask for ID, record the sale and likely limit the quantity sold at any one time. Although not an opiate, tramadol withdrawal is very similar to heroin withdrawal. Stay clear, especially if you have had any drug or alcohol problems in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inbangkok Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here LOL. Nope.... While not as addicting as heroin, it can definitely cause both addiction and dependence...... It can also cause physical withdrawal after prolonged use (especially at higher doses). I agree that creating addiction hysteria is not needed..... It should also not be said that this drug has no addiction potential. It is an opioid (granted, a mild one) but still possess certain risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here LOL. Nope.... While not as addicting as heroin, it can definitely cause both addiction and dependence...... It can also cause physical withdrawal after prolonged use (especially at higher doses). I agree that creating addiction hysteria is not needed..... It should also not be said that this drug has no addiction potential. It is an opioid (granted, a mild one) but still possess certain risks. In fact Tramdol has a very low risk profile for dependency/addiction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882815/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here LOL. Nope.... While not as addicting as heroin, it can definitely cause both addiction and dependence...... It can also cause physical withdrawal after prolonged use (especially at higher doses). I agree that creating addiction hysteria is not needed..... It should also not be said that this drug has no addiction potential. It is an opioid (granted, a mild one) but still possess certain risks. Reading on here a couple of weeks ago the addiction people have to Coffee... there was another a while back on Coke Cola addiction, so may just as well add 'addiction' to this topic... Of course I must have an addiction or many as for 40 - 50 years always drink 6 - 7 black coffee's and have cereal for breakfast + a yogurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inbangkok Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here LOL. Nope.... While not as addicting as heroin, it can definitely cause both addiction and dependence...... It can also cause physical withdrawal after prolonged use (especially at higher doses). I agree that creating addiction hysteria is not needed..... It should also not be said that this drug has no addiction potential. It is an opioid (granted, a mild one) but still possess certain risks. In fact Tramdol has a very low risk profile for dependency/addiction. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882815/ Did you read this? It is a case study of 1 person. 1 person! Not very usefefull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inbangkok Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here LOL. Nope.... While not as addicting as heroin, it can definitely cause both addiction and dependence...... It can also cause physical withdrawal after prolonged use (especially at higher doses). I agree that creating addiction hysteria is not needed..... It should also not be said that this drug has no addiction potential. It is an opioid (granted, a mild one) but still possess certain risks. Reading on here a couple of weeks ago the addiction people have to Coffee... there was another a while back on Coke Cola addiction, so may just as well add 'addiction' to this topic... Of course I must have an addiction or many as for 40 - 50 years always drink 6 - 7 black coffee's and have cereal for breakfast + a yogurt Lol....I agree. But pain pills can indeed be dangerous. Especially when you can buy an unlimited supply from a pharmacy with no prescription. People do need to be a bit more careful with tramadol ......more so than with coffee at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamRose Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Back on topic. It would be helpful if people who have been successful in buying Tramadol over the counter could say exactly where they got it. I'm in Bangkok and use it occasionally back pain but my usual pharmacy, Fascino, stopped selling it. Edited February 19, 2016 by SiamRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 What on earth is Tindol? Is that spelled correctly? I am not familiar with any drug of that name. It's Tramadol Hdrochloride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Thank you for the accurate and valuable information. Cheers 430xc Addiction potential for tramadaol is less than with vicodan by far. But addiction can occur. As best as I can determine, tramadol is still legal for OTC sale but the FDA is strictly enforcing requirement that all sales be recorded and reported monthly and a first class pharmacist be on duty at all times. And they seem to be scrutinizing sales records and questioning unusually large sales. Actually these rules have always been in place and pertain to a large number of drugs, including antibiotics, but in practice are not strictly enforced as a rule. Due to some recent highly publicized events they are now being strictly enforced for tramadol. Many pharmacies have simply decided it is not worth the trouble. When they say "not allowed to order" they may mean, not allowed by their boss...not that it is not allowed by law or the FDA. There are some pharmacies still ordering, receiving and selling it but they will ask for ID, record the sale and likely limit the quantity sold at any one time. If anyone is after `Generic Tramadol.. and lives in CM.. you can get 1 strip (10tabs) for 45bht at Maya ground floor across from Donut/coffee shop. its the first pharmacy ... half the price of Tindol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Oh, what a load of BS! Tramadol is not addictive. Yes, it belongs to same group as morphine but is used precisely because there is no addiction to it. When it comes to painkillers, it is very good one. As described above, it is well-suited for several uses. I broke my back in a car accident a decade ago and occasionally - perhaps once or twice a week - use to be able to sleep and function and to be able to walk straight. I have not noticed any urge to take it. Sometimes it seems to dry the eyes and mouth but just about that. What comes to availability, I don't know. I have a few pharmacists as sort of friends and normally ask them bring me some on their way home if needed. Saves a trip to local pharmacy. I am self-medicating since had quite a many issues when coming to Thailand but here - presumably due to climate and diet - I now need only some painkillers every now and then. When people talk about strong painkillers, they seem to think it is drug related. Perhaps so but more than a few actually feel sick using them. Depending person. Most addicted seem to be persons that are prone to use alcohol or any other way to get their heads filled with substances. Something in the genes, I suppose. https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45829 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here LOL. Nope.... While not as addicting as heroin, it can definitely cause both addiction and dependence...... It can also cause physical withdrawal after prolonged use (especially at higher doses). I agree that creating addiction hysteria is not needed..... It should also not be said that this drug has no addiction potential. It is an opioid (granted, a mild one) but still possess certain risks. Reading on here a couple of weeks ago the addiction people have to Coffee... there was another a while back on Coke Cola addiction, so may just as well add 'addiction' to this topic... Of course I must have an addiction or many as for 40 - 50 years always drink 6 - 7 black coffee's and have cereal for breakfast + a yogurt Although caffeine and tramadol are both psychtropic drugs, comparing is rather foolish. Tramadol is a HIGHLY addictive dangerous drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagz Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I still get it over the counter in pattaya pharmacy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnatong Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The usual addiction hysteria, it's no more habit forming than posting on here LOL. Nope.... While not as addicting as heroin, it can definitely cause both addiction and dependence...... It can also cause physical withdrawal after prolonged use (especially at higher doses). I agree that creating addiction hysteria is not needed..... It should also not be said that this drug has no addiction potential. It is an opioid (granted, a mild one) but still possess certain risks. Reading on here a couple of weeks ago the addiction people have to Coffee... there was another a while back on Coke Cola addiction, so may just as well add 'addiction' to this topic... Of course I must have an addiction or many as for 40 - 50 years always drink 6 - 7 black coffee's and have cereal for breakfast + a yogurt Although caffeine and tramadol are both psychtropic drugs, comparing is rather foolish. Tramadol is a HIGHLY addictive dangerous drug. Do you have evidence for that claim ? Links to reliable scientific/academic sources would be appreciated Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawan Chan 7 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Although caffeine and tramadol are both psychtropic drugs, comparing is rather foolish. Tramadol is a HIGHLY addictive dangerous drug. Do you have evidence for that claim ? Links to reliable scientific/academic sources would be appreciated Thanks I agree that it is a highly addictive drug and have experience of addiction. Denial is common with addiction. http://www.narconon.org/drug-abuse/tramadol-effects.html http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905496/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I had to buy OTC a couple of times after an accident, but had no problems whatsoever....although I was limited to 2 sheets. I also found it tramadol remarkably ineffective unless used in conjunction with paracetamol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsdude Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I managed to buy them on the Darkside last month. She pulled a big jar out and a small scoop and asked how many I wanted. Took 20, 5 baht each no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnatong Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I managed to buy them on the Darkside last month. She pulled a big jar out and a small scoop and asked how many I wanted. Took 20, 5 baht each no questions asked. How do you know you were sold Tramadol ? It is a medication not normally sold by the "scoopful" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsdude Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I managed to buy them on the Darkside last month. She pulled a big jar out and a small scoop and asked how many I wanted. Took 20, 5 baht each no questions asked. How do you know you were sold Tramadol ? It is a medication not normally sold by the "scoopful" Obviously they're copies but they do the trick... Had people try them back in the UK who know their drugs and they reckon they're the real deal... So a few more "scoops" have been requested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I managed to buy them on the Darkside last month. She pulled a big jar out and a small scoop and asked how many I wanted. Took 20, 5 baht each no questions asked. How do you know you were sold Tramadol ? It is a medication not normally sold by the "scoopful" Obviously they're copies but they do the trick... Had people try them back in the UK who know their drugs and they reckon they're the real deal... So a few more "scoops" have been requested... If they're the REAL thing and something you need long term, you should buy a bucket load at 5 baht each. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globin Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 This regulatory nonsense is causing me a great deal of trouble. Irritable bowel syndrome, arthritic knees and two disintegrating discs in my back make my life hell without painkillers like Tramadol. I find it hard to believe that keeping a few teenagers from getting high is any excuse for interfering with the supply of medication to people like us. What was a 5 minute trip to the chemist every couple of months has turned into hours of waiting to see a doctor and repeat my symptoms every week to live a normal life. GGGGRRRRRR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 This regulatory nonsense is causing me a great deal of trouble. Irritable bowel syndrome, arthritic knees and two disintegrating discs in my back make my life hell without painkillers like Tramadol. I find it hard to believe that keeping a few teenagers from getting high is any excuse for interfering with the supply of medication to people like us. What was a 5 minute trip to the chemist every couple of months has turned into hours of waiting to see a doctor and repeat my symptoms every week to live a normal life. GGGGRRRRRRPattya chemists still selling box of 1000. Seek and you shall find Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, globin said: This regulatory nonsense is causing me a great deal of trouble. Irritable bowel syndrome, arthritic knees and two disintegrating discs in my back make my life hell without painkillers like Tramadol. I find it hard to believe that keeping a few teenagers from getting high is any excuse for interfering with the supply of medication to people like us. What was a 5 minute trip to the chemist every couple of months has turned into hours of waiting to see a doctor and repeat my symptoms every week to live a normal life. GGGGRRRRRR If what you need is Tramadol then I do not see why this should be the case. As has been repeatedly explained in this thread, it can be gotten over the counter. No prescription is required. You need only to go to a large pharmacy (real pharmacy - not a Boots or Watsons) which has a real pharmacist on duty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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