DjSiN Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 On 30/07/2017 at 7:28 AM, bkk6060 said: I don't see how anyone can sleep better on Tramadol it seems to create a terrible sleep pattern and a lot of Insomnia for me. It also creates a big buzz for me very similar to Vicodin. Read up on the side effects and I think drinking booze with it could be very dangerous or even fatal. Booze w trama can be nasty. Twice while I was out drinking heavily I took my night pill without thinking. One of those times I was incoherent and passed out, the other was almost the same. Never, NEVER, take your dose after u been out for a night of boozing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 On 28/07/2017 at 10:39 PM, Sheryl said: Is there a reason why you can't undergo surgery? AFAIK 100 mg just as available as 50. You need to find a large pharmacy with a real pharmacist on duty. Try near the provincial hospital. They had 100mg ones in boots at phayoyothin once iirc, but they are the slow release type so they are expensive and unpopular compared to the Thai ones I had to buy them after my local dealer out and I got bad withdrawal symptoms Anyone who says tramadol is non addictive hasn't taken enough of it.... Yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 13 hours ago, DjSiN said: Too many horror stories involved with fusion. It's like a domino effect. Lock on part of back to put more strain on the surrounding discs. Multiple levels are involved. Friend of mine just had a disc trimmed (I think) and some kind of healing promotion material sown in. At least that's how I remember the conversation. You will find "horror stories" online about everything. People do not usually post when all goes well. If you look at scientific studies, outcomes are generally good and I certainly know many people, including 3 close family members for whom that was the case, as well as many TV members. It is true though that if multiple levels are involved, you will lose some flexibility so if affordable placement of artificial disk might be advisable -- but note that a small minority of people have adverse reactions to the implants. Depending on the problem, decompression surgery without fusion may also be an option. What does not seem reasonabel to me, unless you have medical conditions that make you a poor surgical risk, is leaving the problem uncorrected and requiring opoids/opioid analogues for the rest of your life. Note that they will become less efefctive at the same does with repeated usage, and the pain severity will likely worsen as well if the underlying condition remains untreated. Dr. Wicharn at the BNH hospital Spine Center is excellent and I recommend consulting him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSiN Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Dr. Wicharn at the BNH hospital Spine Center is excellent and I recommend consulting him. thanks, I'll look him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 On 15/04/2014 at 3:05 AM, Andre0720 said: Every time I was prescribed anti inflammatory, I never filled in the prescription.. A bit of pain has never been a problem for me... Then you have never experienced real pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 On 07/08/2017 at 6:19 AM, speedtripler said: They had 100mg ones in boots at phayoyothin once iirc, but they are the slow release type so they are expensive and unpopular compared to the Thai ones I had to buy them after my local dealer out and I got bad withdrawal symptoms Anyone who says tramadol is non addictive hasn't taken enough of it.... Yet Maybe addictive but not much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Possibly innactive post now, but. I take tramadol 150sr. Neurological pain, permanent trauma condition. I am going to be running out of my tablet soon. The pharmacist in Oz did not fill my last script right. Half a tab daily instead of 2 tabs daily. What is the current situation for obtaining this product in Thailand. I'm going to run out in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, dallen52 said: Possibly innactive post now, but. I take tramadol 150sr. Neurological pain, permanent trauma condition. I am going to be running out of my tablet soon. The pharmacist in Oz did not fill my last script right. Half a tab daily instead of 2 tabs daily. What is the current situation for obtaining this product in Thailand. I'm going to run out in a few weeks. The Ultracet 37.5 Tram per tablet is available at many pharmacies. I have purchased it in BKK, Pattaya and Chiang Mai. Watson, Boots, etc. The 50 mg. Thai brand is available also. The 100 mg is around but not as much. If you want pretty much a free for all go to Cambodia seems like just about anything is available over the counter. Edited April 28, 2018 by bkk6060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 On 29/07/2017 at 10:47 PM, MrPatrickThai said: Tramadol is as addictive as opoids. Try taking it every day for a month and you'll change your tune. Agree. If I take the dosage prescribed it's fine as long as I don't have a few beers. One is okay. I keep trying to get my dosage down. Can skip half tablet and maybe one for a few days. Then other neurological issues kick in. Myoclonus or hypnic jerk. A bit like tourettes but only when laying down. The arms jump around and it's like an electric discharge firing off. Can feel it starting. If you lay on the arm it comes out somewhere else. So spend half the night sitting on the edge of the bed or staying up. But if I take the other half of the tramadol, about two hours later it will be gone. And I normally stay in the bed until late... Been on these about 2.5 years. Wish I wasn't. But what's the alternative? Tried Gabapentin and Lyrica.. Oxycodone is OK. But this is another one that is almost black listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Analgesics are not often the best means of controlling chronic pain. When you next return to Oz you should seek a consultation with a pain management specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Swimman said: Analgesics are not often the best means of controlling chronic pain. When you next return to Oz you should seek a consultation with a pain management specialist Sadly, been there done that. The Neurological specialists cannot find the cause. Bilateral medial neuropathy, cause unknown. Either trauma, or a rare viral condition. After three years is now classified as a permanent condition. Lost the use of both arms and hands for about one year, and the usage progressively came back. Strength is gone. Tremor in the left, and partial use and strength in the right. Done the MRI and everything else they could think of. Shows nothing to chop out. If im on the floor I need assistance to get up. The arms are basically for scratching my head and wiping the bum. Sorry I have to laugh. But otherwise you would go crazy with your afflictions. I have tried many things for the pain relief. Open to all suggestions legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 The only sustained release form of tramadol here is Tramal Retard, an expensive import (Sanofi) that may prove hard to find. Mostly what the pharmacies have is plain tramadol(not SR) 50 mg and tramadal with paracetemol. Only some pharmacies sell this as they are required to keep detailed sales records and have a grade one pharmacist on duty at all times. Those that do, will not sell you very much at once. The problems you describe when you try to cut the dosage reflect physiological addiction. I suggest you see an addiction specialist and pain management specialist to both help wean you off the tramadol (may temporarily need some meds to control the withdrawal effects) and find alternative means of controlling the pain. Nerve blocks/nerve ablation might be worth trying. This is a good addiction specialist https://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Pichai-Saengcharnchai And these are some good pain management specialist s at the same hospital https://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Chomchai-Vichitrananda https://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Nuj-Tontisirin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyShadow Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, dallen52 said: Agree. If I take the dosage prescribed it's fine as long as I don't have a few beers. One is okay. I keep trying to get my dosage down. Can skip half tablet and maybe one for a few days. Then other neurological issues kick in. Myoclonus or hypnic jerk. A bit like tourettes but only when laying down. The arms jump around and it's like an electric discharge firing off. Can feel it starting. If you lay on the arm it comes out somewhere else. So spend half the night sitting on the edge of the bed or staying up. But if I take the other half of the tramadol, about two hours later it will be gone. And I normally stay in the bed until late... Been on these about 2.5 years. Wish I wasn't. But what's the alternative? Tried Gabapentin and Lyrica.. Oxycodone is OK. But this is another one that is almost black listed. Dont listen to addiction nonsense. Addiction is for abusers, people like you and me suffer nerve pain and thats called "dependency" because the pain will never go away we will be on meds for life. I take 400 mg a trama a day and have been as high as 800mg without feeling stoned . They really help with the burning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, InMyShadow said: Dont listen to addiction nonsense. Addiction is for abusers, people like you and me suffer nerve pain and thats called "dependency" because the pain will never go away we will be on meds for life. I take 400 mg a trama a day and have been as high as 800mg without feeling stoned . They really help with the burning Being an on and off sufferer myself I never judge those who are on these meds. When my back goes out I usually never take more then 150 mg a day and it seems to do the trick. I have had a few beers with it before and it seemed to make me a little psychotic. Angry and annoyed which is usually not my nature so need to avoid that routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 hours ago, dallen52 said: Sadly, been there done that. The Neurological specialists cannot find the cause. Bilateral medial neuropathy, cause unknown. Either trauma, or a rare viral condition. After three years is now classified as a permanent condition. Lost the use of both arms and hands for about one year, and the usage progressively came back. Strength is gone. Tremor in the left, and partial use and strength in the right. Done the MRI and everything else they could think of. Shows nothing to chop out. If im on the floor I need assistance to get up. The arms are basically for scratching my head and wiping the bum. Sorry I have to laugh. But otherwise you would go crazy with your afflictions. I have tried many things for the pain relief. Open to all suggestions legal. And there's the rub. The best and cheapest are illegal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 15 hours ago, The manic said: And there's the rub. The best and cheapest are illegal.. My sister in law is crippled with fybromyalgia and a few other things. She can use the vape pen in the UK now. Cannabis. Not cheap, but pain relief is hard to get sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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