My latest attempt to purchase tramadol

[pauleddy]

Steroids such as prednisolone must be taken with caution and only on advice of an MD. Some OTC eardrops have prednisolone in small quantities, but you may not need the steroid properties for a simple infection. Some asthma inhalers also contain steroids.

Steroids taken as tablets also have strict instructions for maintaining then gradually reducing the dosage. Steroids in large dosages, or taken over a long period, can have very dangerous side effects and cause the body to swell up, a moon-face, thin skin and the kidneys to malfunction (Cushing syndrome)

In hospital, steroids are often given for serious diseases where the body needs the strong anti-inflammatory boost that they can provide (steroids are actually a hormone which your body makes for itself--cortisol is one of the hormones you make, just as you make testosterone). Steroids may be given following transplants, brain swelling or severe burns. Some patients are given steroids almost as, or as, a last resort--when other treatments have been tried first--because they are so powerful and have many effects (and side-effects).

Nobody should ever take steroids just because they want something for pain or joint problems. Always take with strict advice. Or, you could be asking for trouble.

eddy

[DogNo1]

In reference to earlier posts, Oxycodone is an opiate pain reliever, Vicodin is Oxycodone plus Acetomenephen (Paracetamol,) and Tramadol is a fairly mild pain killer which doctors in the US prescribe fairly freely. I've used them all and find that for my neck and back pain, exercise is the ultimate pain reliever, probably because of the endorphins that are released because of it, but when I have sore muscles or lingering back pain despite the exercise, Voltaren is wonderfully effective. Usually taking Voltaren for one night seems to relieve the pain for a couple of days. Those talking about Arcoxia should be very careful. It says right on the box that it should not be taken for more than seven days. I took it once for sciatica and the doctor at Bumrungrad was very emphatic that I should not buy more of the medicine and continue taking it. Taking Voltaren orally can be hard on the kidneys but Voltaren gel is also very effective. Usually 5 mg of Voltaren orally plus the gel is enough for me. I stop taking it when the pain goes away so I do not take it too often. I have boxes of Tramadol that I have bought earlier but they sit unused since it just it not very effective for me. Also, I never take Acetomenephen for more than two or three days since it's very hard on my liver and I can feel strong side effects after three days. Good luck to those looking for effective pain relief. I suggest trying exercise for part of the solution to your pain.

[DogNo1]

Sorry. Spelling mistake. Should be Acetaminophen, not Acetomenephen.

[connda]

In reference to earlier posts, Oxycodone is an opiate pain reliever, Vicodin is Oxycodone plus Acetomenephen (Paracetamol,) and Tramadol is a fairly mild pain killer which doctors in the US prescribe fairly freely. I've used them all and find that for my neck and back pain, exercise is the ultimate pain reliever, probably because of the endorphins that are released because of it, but when I have sore muscles or lingering back pain despite the exercise, Voltaren is wonderfully effective. Usually taking Voltaren for one night seems to relieve the pain for a couple of days. Those talking about Arcoxia should be very careful. It says right on the box that it should not be taken for more than seven days. I took it once for sciatica and the doctor at Bumrungrad was very emphatic that I should not buy more of the medicine and continue taking it. Taking Voltaren orally can be hard on the kidneys but Voltaren gel is also very effective. Usually 5 mg of Voltaren orally plus the gel is enough for me. I stop taking it when the pain goes away so I do not take it too often. I have boxes of Tramadol that I have bought earlier but they sit unused since it just it not very effective for me. Also, I never take Acetomenephen for more than two or three days since it's very hard on my liver and I can feel strong side effects after three days. Good luck to those looking for effective pain relief. I suggest trying exercise for part of the solution to your pain.

I like your post and agree with the exercise suggestion. But I might add the suggestion to try yoga, taichi, or chigung. The object being is to stretch and strengthen the muscle.

Personally I like walking inclines, I weight lift (probably 1/4 of what I use to in my 30s and 40 primarily because it makes my muscles too tight) and yoga. I really wish there was an Iyengar instructor / studio here in Chiang Mai ( I practiced Iyengar for about 2 years in the US prior to moving here) but I can and do work out on my own. My previous instructors were big on 'form', correct positioning, and movement. Assisting your own endorphin production can take the edge of chronic pain. Aging sucks, but as long as you're relatively mobile, there's no reason to give it to it.

Edited July 5, 2014 by connda

[harrry]

May be worth mentioning how with many kinds of pain a heat source is a lot of benefit. I use a hot water bottle when my hip and leg pain gets too bad and it does wonders. You do have to take care that the water bottle (bag) is well closed and in good condition and the water is not too hot as many people, especially diabeitics and the old have trouble feeling if it is too hot and also if it leaks or bursts you can get severe burns. With care it is way better than most medication for me.

Edited July 5, 2014 by harrry

[connda]

May be worth mentioning how with many kinds of pain a heat source is a lot of benefit. I use a hot water bottle when my hip and leg pain gets too bad and it does wonders. You do have to take care that the water bottle (bag) is well closed and in good condition and the water is not too hot as many people, especially diabeitics and the old have trouble feeling if it is too hot and also if it leaks or bursts you can get severe burns. With care it is way better than most medication for me.

Harry,

Where did you buy your hot water bottle? Thanks!

[harrry]

May be worth mentioning how with many kinds of pain a heat source is a lot of benefit. I use a hot water bottle when my hip and leg pain gets too bad and it does wonders. You do have to take care that the water bottle (bag) is well closed and in good condition and the water is not too hot as many people, especially diabeitics and the old have trouble feeling if it is too hot and also if it leaks or bursts you can get severe burns. With care it is way better than most medication for me.

Harry,

Where did you buy your hot water bottle? Thanks!

Most of the chemist shops here sell them ask for "gaprow nahm lorn" .....about 80 baht.

[connda]

May be worth mentioning how with many kinds of pain a heat source is a lot of benefit. I use a hot water bottle when my hip and leg pain gets too bad and it does wonders. You do have to take care that the water bottle (bag) is well closed and in good condition and the water is not too hot as many people, especially diabeitics and the old have trouble feeling if it is too hot and also if it leaks or bursts you can get severe burns. With care it is way better than most medication for me.

Harry,

Where did you buy your hot water bottle? Thanks!

Most of the chemist shops here sell them ask for "gaprow nahm lorn" .....about 80 baht.

Thanks mate!

[DogNo1]

I'm sure that any kind of muscle movement or stretching would be helpful for most wounds. My epiphany came back in California with the slowness of their treatment program for my neck whiplash injury. My primary care physician prescribed all kind of pain killers including plain morphine tablets but nothing made the pain in my neck after being hit from behind on the 405 go away. About three months after the accident, I finaly got an MRI which showed that my cervicle vertebrae were in poor shape. About 45 days later, I had my first session with the rehabilitation therapist and after doing her prescribed exercises for a month, the pain vanished to my complete surprise. I still do a full set of body exercises over the course of a week (upper, core, arms and legs) and remain mostly pain free until I skip more than three days and the pain starts to creep back. I do take voltaren on occasions when I aggravate my back, neck or crushed right shoulder but in general, I'm remarkably free from pain.

[connda]

I'm sure that any kind of muscle movement or stretching would be helpful for most wounds. My epiphany came back in California with the slowness of their treatment program for my neck whiplash injury. My primary care physician prescribed all kind of pain killers including plain morphine tablets but nothing made the pain in my neck after being hit from behind on the 405 go away. About three months after the accident, I finaly got an MRI which showed that my cervicle vertebrae were in poor shape. About 45 days later, I had my first session with the rehabilitation therapist and after doing her prescribed exercises for a month, the pain vanished to my complete surprise. I still do a full set of body exercises over the course of a week (upper, core, arms and legs) and remain mostly pain free until I skip more than three days and the pain starts to creep back. I do take voltaren on occasions when I aggravate my back, neck or crushed right shoulder but in general, I'm remarkably free from pain.

I, like you, got hit from behind and my necks never been the same. I finally got relief when I started yoga seriously. But as I get older, it gets more difficult. Hey, such is life.

[TheWizardofRnR]

Looking for an update on where to buy generic Tramadol in Pattaya , I had been getting some @ 300 B for years in Phuket , but here in Pattaya ,since change in law it varies. I just got Tindol , which is a generic tramadol ,they charged us 370B.I have been taking it for 5 years or more and I am not addicted ,i know some of you may laugh at that , but I only take it when the pain sets in from my Arthritis in my legs ,in last few years it has moved into my hands aka Rheumatoid arthritis , not horrific yet ,but getting a bit worse as I age , now will be 67 in Oct. I also find , over the years some people get looped on only 1 ,I use to take 2 , now i take 3-4 , but sometimes even that many do not help when my arthritis goes Ballistic , as I call it ! It gets really bad in legs but what puts the pain in orbit ,is when the pain starts in arms and hands. I cannot lay down too long cause unless I sit up I feel like I am going to die ! When it gets this bad I have to use a pain killer that was originally developed to help people withdraw from opiates , called Temgesic. It has been hard to find them and were expensive at around 300to 350 B a strip., They are a sub-lingual and very strong , made some people sick when taken

but when pain gets un-real its the only way to relieve the insanity of pain I am in. other then blowing my brains out ,and I'm a true believer in Thou shall not kill , especially myself ! I have to crush & inhale them ,being under the tongue takes too long sometimes.

If anyone knows where to find Temgesic here in Pattaya or in Bkk , please PM me if you want to remain anonymous or post

up to u ! Also , any recommendations in Pattaya for Generic Tramadol at a fair price. A friend in Bkk last year found me some @ 170B a box , so the prices of over 300 B a box is pharmacy greed. I stopped buying at one place here in Pattaya cause they raised a price on one of my meds 2x, just because we had become a regular customer, so my wife told them because they did that we punished them the only way u can ??? We stopped giving them any of our biz . It is always the best way to get back at BS like that ! BTW , I hate the morphine here given at hospitals ,its from OZ and time release and did me no good at all for my pain. I really do miss Percodan, I used to take in the 70s 7 80s in USA , except back then it usually wasn't for pain ! Tried some recently and doesn't feel the same as back then !Seems , when I was young ,we took drugs for fun (used not abused ); but now when we're old we have to take drugs , but for the most part , there ain't no fun in it at all . BB

Edited August 9, 2014 by TheWizardofRnR

[inbangkok]

I have to crush & inhale them

What does this mean? That you are crushing and snorting them?

[TheWizardofRnR]

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I have to crush & inhale them

What does this mean? That you are crushing and snorting them?

A sub-lingual med means under the Tongue , it takes about 6o min.to take effect. If you could feel the pain that I go thru when as I say it goes Ballistic, then maybe you might understand that I take the medicine by doing what gives me the fastest relief from said pain. I'm not snorting it to get high like Cocaine users might do , I'm taking it in nasaly to quickly relieve my pain. I do not take this as a recreational high and its not like I sit around doing bumps of it for hours on end , which could frack-up your nasal passage like happens to some cocaine users doing it allot . Plus , the pain going ballistic only happens to me several times a month , although my pain is on a daily bases. Its like this , I take Tramadol when my legs start to hurt or hands, and do not take again until I feel the annoyance coming on again!

BTW I don't have to justify what works for me , so don't condemn my way of taking a pain reliever , until you've been in pain like I suffer from during these episodes. I sometimes wonder how long I will be able to put up with this , and living like this on a daily basis really sucks. I don't mind getting old ,I just wish someone could tell me how long its going to last.

So ,apologies for sarcasm if you were only being curious , but not if you were upset by my method of stopping the pain

ASAP. !

I worked in a Hospital as a Medic in USAF , I learned quite a bit about medicine from my AF experience. I only use it for my self welfare not anyone else' s. After being in Hospitals here in Thailand a half dozen times in my 27 years here , I can tell you for certain , I knew more then some of the people who worked in them, supposedly taking care of me!

But those nightmares are another story !

Sorry for the long explanation.

[inbangkok]

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I have to crush & inhale them

What does this mean? That you are crushing and snorting them?

A sub-lingual med means under the Tongue , it takes about 6o min.to take effect. If you could feel the pain that I go thru when as I say it goes Ballistic, then maybe you might understand that I take the medicine by doing what gives me the fastest relief from said pain. I'm not snorting it to get high like Cocaine users might do , I'm taking it in nasaly to quickly relieve my pain. I do not take this as a recreational high and its not like I sit around doing bumps of it for hours on end , which could frack-up your nasal passage like happens to some cocaine users doing it allot . Plus , the pain going ballistic only happens to me several times a month , although my pain is on a daily bases. Its like this , I take Tramadol when my legs start to hurt or hands, and do not take again until I feel the annoyance coming on again!

BTW I don't have to justify what works for me , so don't condemn my way of taking a pain reliever , until you've been in pain like I suffer from during these episodes. I sometimes wonder how long I will be able to put up with this , and living like this on a daily basis really sucks. I don't mind getting old ,I just wish someone could tell me how long its going to last.

So ,apologies for sarcasm if you were only being curious , but not if you were upset by my method of stopping the pain

ASAP. !

I worked in a Hospital as a Medic in USAF , I learned quite a bit about medicine from my AF experience. I only use it for my self welfare not anyone else' s. After being in Hospitals here in Thailand a half dozen times in my 27 years here , I can tell you for certain , I knew more then some of the people who worked in them, supposedly taking care of me!

But those nightmares are another story !

Sorry for the long explanation.

You can be sarcastic all you want, I don't care. I suffer from chronic pain as well and I have never heard of anyone snorting their medication. That is why I asked....just a simple question.

I did not condemn you and this is not a competition of who is in worse pain. You are making some wild assumptions and sure seem to be hyper defensive about this issue, even though you swear you are using your medication in such a legitimate fashion.

[TheWizardofRnR]

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I have to crush & inhale them

What does this mean? That you are crushing and snorting them?

A sub-lingual med means under the Tongue , it takes about 6o min.to take effect. If you could feel the pain that I go thru when as I say it goes Ballistic, then maybe you might understand that I take the medicine by doing what gives me the fastest relief from said pain. I'm not snorting it to get high like Cocaine users might do , I'm taking it in nasaly to quickly relieve my pain. I do not take this as a recreational high and its not like I sit around doing bumps of it for hours on end , which could frack-up your nasal passage like happens to some cocaine users doing it allot . Plus , the pain going ballistic only happens to me several times a month , although my pain is on a daily bases. Its like this , I take Tramadol when my legs start to hurt or hands, and do not take again until I feel the annoyance coming on again!

BTW I don't have to justify what works for me , so don't condemn my way of taking a pain reliever , until you've been in pain like I suffer from during these episodes. I sometimes wonder how long I will be able to put up with this , and living like this on a daily basis really sucks. I don't mind getting old ,I just wish someone could tell me how long its going to last.

So ,apologies for sarcasm if you were only being curious , but not if you were upset by my method of stopping the pain

ASAP. !

I worked in a Hospital as a Medic in USAF , I learned quite a bit about medicine from my AF experience. I only use it for my self welfare not anyone else' s. After being in Hospitals here in Thailand a half dozen times in my 27 years here , I can tell you for certain , I knew more then some of the people who worked in them, supposedly taking care of me!

But those nightmares are another story !

Sorry for the long explanation.

You can be sarcastic all you want, I don't care. I suffer from chronic pain as well and I have never heard of anyone snorting their medication. That is why I asked....just a simple question.

I did not condemn you and this is not a competition of who is in worse pain. You are making some wild assumptions and sure seem to be hyper defensive about this issue, even though you swear you are using your medication in such a legitimate fashion.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If your not condemning me:

Did you not read where I said apologizes if you were just being curious , but instead you say I am being hyper defensive and trying to create a competition for who is in the worse pain???

Plus you never heard of someone taking medicine by nasal ingestion , sorry for your not ever hearing of this method of taking medicine! Go to a Pharmacy and ask a Pharmacist if he has any nasal sprays !

Snorting is more a term associated with Alcohol and Cocaine use, like when you say i'll have a snort of that whiskey or Lets go snort some coke ! But when your taking a Nasal spray, you wouldn't use those terms , Would you?

And I didn't swear to anything ,I just gave you the facts of how it helps me get out of the hellish pain I am in !

If I had the inject-able meds , they might be quicker but the crush & inhale is what works the fastest for Me !

The difference of 10-15 minutes , compared to a 60-75 min. waiting for pain relief , that is my reason for taking the

medicine that way. In a hospital they inject people in need of quick pain relief , I do not have access to or cannot afford to treat my chronic pain that way !

What you call being HYPER defensive is merely being honest and telling you the facts ,since you seem to be curious and making claims about my statements , that have nothing to do with me being honest!

Here is a search I did....but its about sprays not crushing and inhaling but its as I said b4

what is best to give me relief ! After I inhale the powder I also follow it up inhaling thru my nose

from my fingertips a little clean water , as a chaser !

I From Google:

Searches related to medicines taken by nasal spray

home remedy nasal spray

little remedies nasal spray

osteoporosis nasal spray medication

allergy medicine nasal spray

nasal spray addiction remedies

nasal spray medication for bedwetting

*nose spray pain medicine *

migraine medications nasal sprays

[harrry]

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I have to crush & inhale them

What does this mean? That you are crushing and snorting them?

A sub-lingual med means under the Tongue , it takes about 6o min.to take effect. If you could feel the pain that I go thru when as I say it goes Ballistic, then maybe you might understand that I take the medicine by doing what gives me the fastest relief from said pain. I'm not snorting it to get high like Cocaine users might do , I'm taking it in nasaly to quickly relieve my pain. I do not take this as a recreational high and its not like I sit around doing bumps of it for hours on end , which could frack-up your nasal passage like happens to some cocaine users doing it allot . Plus , the pain going ballistic only happens to me several times a month , although my pain is on a daily bases. Its like this , I take Tramadol when my legs start to hurt or hands, and do not take again until I feel the annoyance coming on again!

BTW I don't have to justify what works for me , so don't condemn my way of taking a pain reliever , until you've been in pain like I suffer from during these episodes. I sometimes wonder how long I will be able to put up with this , and living like this on a daily basis really sucks. I don't mind getting old ,I just wish someone could tell me how long its going to last.

So ,apologies for sarcasm if you were only being curious , but not if you were upset by my method of stopping the pain

ASAP. !

I worked in a Hospital as a Medic in USAF , I learned quite a bit about medicine from my AF experience. I only use it for my self welfare not anyone else' s. After being in Hospitals here in Thailand a half dozen times in my 27 years here , I can tell you for certain , I knew more then some of the people who worked in them, supposedly taking care of me!

But those nightmares are another story !

Sorry for the long explanation.

I think I may have the same problem as you. Gabapentan helps too but is pretty expensive. I find a hot water bottle seems to give the most relief quickly.

[Sheryl]

Let's tone it down a notch, shall we?

Nobody intended to offend anybod and anyone eho inadvertently dif, regrets it. Case closed.

[DogNo1]

The problem with Ultracet and Vicodin is that they contain acetaminophen which can be very damaging to the liver. For me, Percocet and Percodan are better choices because aspirin is used in them instead of acetaminophen. Tramadol has never given me very effective pain relief but Voltaren does. Voltaren gel and tablets work very well for me but Voltaren does affect my kidneys so I can't take it so often. Once when I was in pain in California, a doctor whom I saw wouldn't prescribe Darvon or any other strong pain reliever but agreed to prescribe Tramadol because it's narcotic effect was weaker, she said. I'm surprised to hear that some TV members are taking Arcoxia because it is dangerous when taken for over two weeks at a time. Oxycodone, BTW, is a stand - alone opiate with no other medicines mixed in. Celebrex and Vioxx both seem to cause heart problems and I'm not sure that they are very safe.

I agree that medicines should be used generously to relieve pain and should remain available to those in need despite recreational use by kids and others wanting to get high. Perhaps in Thailand sales restrictions should be directed toward kids rather than at responsible adults.

[Issangeorge]

For me if I have pain, I find as long as I get on top of it, when there is a first twitch, I am usually okay. In most cases a basic pain reliever like Aspirin will work. If I wait until the pain gets to a point that I really need relief, then it's too late and even tramadol doesn't work.

[DogNo1]

I have read that pain relief specialists say that knocking the pain down right away is the best practice as you say. I think that doctors in the USA are becoming better informed regarding the effective treatment of pain. Unfortunately that is not so in Japan where I spend half of each year.

[Issangeorge]

A couple of years ago, I had a motorcycle accident, broke my left leg and shoulder, when they released me they gave me tramadol to take three times a day after meals, if I did that I would have little pain, sometimes had to take a couple of paracetamol to sleep at night. Later on as I went off the tramadol, sometimes the pain was pretty intense. I learnt it was better to take them as prescribed, even if I had no pain.

[Edsman]

... For me, Percocet and Percodan are better choices because aspirin is used in them instead of acetaminophen...

... Oxycodone, BTW, is a stand - alone opiate with no other medicines mixed in. Celebrex and Vioxx both seem to cause heart problems and I'm not sure that they are very safe.

Perhaps there are the formulas that you mention, but I've been prescribed Percocet (oxycodone) for issues related to a back surgery. The Percocet/oxycodone that I had definitely had acetaminophen in it. I checked my prescription bottle and it clearly states oxycodone/acetaminophen. I've also had it without APAP. The same thing with Vicodin except its standalone version, Zohydro, seems to be relatively new and the doctors in the US seem to be hesitant to prescribe it unlike Oxycontin or MScontin.

I've been treated at one of the international hospitals in Bangkok for chronic pain issues and was told that oxycodone and hydrocodone aren't prescribed here but morphine is when Tramadol isn't sufficient with managing pain levels. For nerve pain, I found greater relief with Tramadol than the low doses of MST that's prescribed by Thai pain management specialists although Tramadol still isn't much of an option as a standalone treatment.

[inbangkok]

... For me, Percocet and Percodan are better choices because aspirin is used in them instead of acetaminophen...

... Oxycodone, BTW, is a stand - alone opiate with no other medicines mixed in. Celebrex and Vioxx both seem to cause heart problems and I'm not sure that they are very safe.

Perhaps there are the formulas that you mention, but I've been prescribed Percocet (oxycodone) for issues related to a back surgery. The Percocet/oxycodone that I had definitely had acetaminophen in it. I checked my prescription bottle and it clearly states oxycodone/acetaminophen. I've also had it without APAP. The same thing with Vicodin except its standalone version, Zohydro, seems to be relatively new and the doctors in the US seem to be hesitant to prescribe it unlike Oxycontin or MScontin.

I've been treated at one of the international hospitals in Bangkok for chronic pain issues and was told that oxycodone and hydrocodone aren't prescribed here but morphine is when Tramadol isn't sufficient with managing pain levels. For nerve pain, I found greater relief with Tramadol than the low doses of MST that's prescribed by Thai pain management specialists although Tramadol still isn't much of an option as a standalone treatment.

Percocet is a brand name drug and is a mixture of oxycodone and Tylenol but generics now exist. However, the brand name of pure oxycodone is Oxycontin and is indeed available up to 80mg pills (if memory serves correct) with no Tylenol. Neither of which are available in Thailand or any neighboring countries (not sure about Malaysia).

[MrWorldwide]

I had a few good months right through Xmas where I was able to largely forget my back pain - sore at night but OK in the morning - sadly, those vertebrae seem to have decided its time to reassert themselves. I'm just going to walk into the doctor's office at Pattaya Memorial and tell him I dont want (more) x-rays, I dont want to hear about surgery, I just want a prescription for Tramadol. I dont know about anyone else here, but there's nothing scarier than feeling my back begin to 'lock up' because I know that's a precursor to the muscle spasms : anti-inflammatories like Ibuprofen just dont seem to work for me, so it's back to the Tramadol - hopefully I can wean myself off it again when my back decides to stop playing up. I know - dreams are free

Edited March 6, 2015 by MrWorldwide

[inbangkok]

I had a few good months right through Xmas where I was able to largely forget my back pain - sore at night but OK in the morning - sadly, those vertebrae seem to have decided its time to reassert themselves. I'm just going to walk into the doctor's office at Pattaya Memorial and tell him I dont want (more) x-rays, I dont want to hear about surgery, I just want a prescription for Tramadol. I dont know about anyone else here, but there's nothing scarier than feeling my back begin to 'lock up' because I know that's a precursor to the muscle spasms : anti-inflammatories like Ibuprofen just dont seem to work for me, so it's back to the Tramadol - hopefully I can wean myself off it again when my back decides to stop playing up. I know - dreams are free

There are lots of prescription NSAIDs that seem to work far better than ibuprofen. Arcoxia seems to be the one the Dr's prescribe the most here. However, the major of people with serious back pain..... Especially lower back pain, are generally taking narcotic painkillers as well. Does not seem like NSAIDs are enough for most.

[MrWorldwide]

I think the key to the NSAIDs is to take them *before* I start to feel the pain in my lower back, but then it becomes a case of trying to gauge how long they will remain effective for. Someone recommended Voltaren earlier in this thread - the 'Rapid' version of same seems to get a lot of support online but I'm always wary of some of the recommendations given on 'answers.com' style sites. Not sure if VR is OTC here - I'll try my luck later today.

[inbangkok]

I think the key to the NSAIDs is to take them *before* I start to feel the pain in my lower back, but then it becomes a case of trying to gauge how long they will remain effective for. Someone recommended Voltaren earlier in this thread - the 'Rapid' version of same seems to get a lot of support online but I'm always wary of some of the recommendations given on 'answers.com' style sites. Not sure if VR is OTC here - I'll try my luck later today.

It is, and you can get a generic version for much cheaper. But you cannot take these things everyday. You will destroy your stomach and possibly have heart problems down the road. NSAIDs needs to be used as sparingly as possible. My Dr says ideally 3 or 4 days a week. However, even at that number, they can still cause problems.

[MrWorldwide]

OK, thanks - I'll bear that in mind.

[Dellen]

I finally found a source for Tramadol 50mg and 100 as welll....

i am so happy

[Sheryl]

I buy it for an elderly neighbor with arthritis once a month and never have the least difficulty.

But that is at a pharmacy with a first grade pharmacist always on duty. And they record the sale inc. my name. And its a modest quality (maximum 20 tabs in a full month), she doesn't take it every day.