rgs2001uk Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Well, it can't. Guess you don't want Thai nationality that bad. You know, this is the big difference between most farangs, and say Chinese and Indian long-term expats. The former whinge and whinge about how they are mistreated, then retreat to their barstools and do nothing. The Chinese and Indian look at the requirements, make sure they get them, go through the process...and get what they want. Less griping, more doing. So how does an old guy like me, never worked here to pay taxes gets accepted.? NMT alluded to this in a previous post, nothing more than an paperwork exercise. Jump through the hoops and set up a company, pay your taxes, then apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He's been asking the same question and getting the same answer for at least five years now. He could have had a passport now if he had any motivation whatsoever. Must be a very busy unemployed guy. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbuman Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also in many Farang countries you'd be welcome if you bring money or have skills that benefits the nation. maybe, but how many farang here do actually bring benefit for the nation except for supporting a wife/family which is considered "evident/normal" according to thai customs ? your definition of benefit is not the thai definition of benefit. My definition and Thai definition? My definition is that I brought in about 12.000.000 baht in the kingdom and I still get the run arounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 As I said, I am an old guy, do not work anymore, here or anywhere, My cash takes care of Thai nationals, how do I get accepted. ????????????? You got the answer. You just did like it. Not too many places in the world give any pr or citizenship to retirees. But you are special. Clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also in many Farang countries you'd be welcome if you bring money or have skills that benefits the nation. maybe, but how many farang here do actually bring benefit for the nation except for supporting a wife/family which is considered "evident/normal" according to thai customs ? your definition of benefit is not the thai definition of benefit. My definition and Thai definition? My definition is that I brought in about 12.000.000 baht in the kingdom and I still get the run arounds. 12 million baht? Big f'ing deal. You expect the golden keys because you brought in enough money to buy one nice condo? Please. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardenedSoul Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Well, it can't. Guess you don't want Thai nationality that bad. You know, this is the big difference between most farangs, and say Chinese and Indian long-term expats. The former whinge and whinge about how they are mistreated, then retreat to their barstools and do nothing. The Chinese and Indian look at the requirements, make sure they get them, go through the process...and get what they want. Less griping, more doing. So how does an old guy like me, never worked here to pay taxes gets accepted.? NMT alluded to this in a previous post, nothing more than an paperwork exercise. Jump through the hoops and set up a company, pay your taxes, then apply. Nah that's way too hard. He should be accepted automatically based on nationality, skin colour and a grand-a month-pension. And there I was thinking it was only the younger generations back home that had a profound sense of entitlement these days Edited April 21, 2014 by HardenedSoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbuman Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also in many Farang countries you'd be welcome if you bring money or have skills that benefits the nation. maybe, but how many farang here do actually bring benefit for the nation except for supporting a wife/family which is considered "evident/normal" according to thai customs ? your definition of benefit is not the thai definition of benefit. My definition and Thai definition? My definition is that I brought in about 12.000.000 baht in the kingdom and I still get the run arounds. 12 million baht? Big f'ing deal. You expect the golden keys because you brought in enough money to buy one nice condo? Please. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Perception and how you handle your funds mate. Big f'ing deal for you, huge for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 now now let not turn it into a mines bigger then your thread, its been good upto now, we are never going to agree, there is some of us who dont want it to change, then there is some who do, there is more to this then meets the eye,, it would take years of just organising who could come in and who couldnt, what criteria you would put on,, all above my head,,,lol play nice, to the op,,, it is your thread, who would you say can come in and have a passport? just because they are married to a thai, or would there be other rules that go with that too? money,,,how long here,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also in many Farang countries you'd be welcome if you bring money or have skills that benefits the nation. maybe, but how many farang here do actually bring benefit for the nation except for supporting a wife/family which is considered "evident/normal" according to thai customs ? your definition of benefit is not the thai definition of benefit. My definition and Thai definition? My definition is that I brought in about 12.000.000 baht in the kingdom and I still get the run arounds. Effectively asking to buy a citizenship? I know people here like to think that everything is for sale. Guess what. Some things aren't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardenedSoul Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also in many Farang countries you'd be welcome if you bring money or have skills that benefits the nation. maybe, but how many farang here do actually bring benefit for the nation except for supporting a wife/family which is considered "evident/normal" according to thai customs ? your definition of benefit is not the thai definition of benefit. My definition and Thai definition? My definition is that I brought in about 12.000.000 baht in the kingdom and I still get the run arounds. Jesus H Christ!!! Are you serious? I thought you were gonna say you'd started a company that employed 50-100 locals and turned over ฿50-100 million baht a year but, instead, you puff out your chest and proudly announce you've brought in "฿12,000,000". There are people who've brought in 10 times that amount, who are married to Thai nationals and they're not bleating on about naturalisation, permanent residency or citizenship. Sorry, but despite what you may think in your own head, you're just not that special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yep, threads broke. Bye Bye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Go spend 400,000 bucks on a house in the US or UK and see what doors that opens to you as a foreigner. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Go spend 400,000 bucks on a house in the US or UK and see what doors that opens to you as a foreigner. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Enter stage left the usual suspects banging on about 'immigrants' from behind their keyboards in a country they want to be immigrants to.... You can't make this stuff up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Still no one has answered my simple question regarding ME. Not interested in under the table stuff, opening companies and all that shit. Thai folk can be accepted in my country quite easily, but I, in my situation cannot. know one of the farang hi-so's here can give me a LEGAL answer to someone like me who does not pay taxes BECAUSE I AM RETIRED. Gawd, it is difficult to get a simple answer, but they do not care about someone in my position, sad really........but, expected....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also in many Farang countries you'd be welcome if you bring money or have skills that benefits the nation. maybe, but how many farang here do actually bring benefit for the nation except for supporting a wife/family which is considered "evident/normal" according to thai customs ? your definition of benefit is not the thai definition of benefit. My definition and Thai definition? My definition is that I brought in about 12.000.000 baht in the kingdom and I still get the run arounds. Jesus H Christ!!! Are you serious? I thought you were gonna say you'd started a company that employed 50-100 locals and turned over ฿50-100 million baht a year but, instead, you puff out your chest and proudly announce you've brought in "฿12,000,000". There are people who've brought in 10 times that amount, who are married to Thai nationals and they're not bleating on about naturalisation, permanent residency or citizenship. Sorry, but despite what you may think in your own head, you're just not that special. Are you serious? The sad reality of it is, he probably is serious. I can never for the life of me understand the farang who think they know whats best. Married to a Thai, 400k in the bank, no need to build a mansion or buy land upcountry. The ones that amuse me even more are the ones trying to circumvent Thai laws that are actually there to protect the farang. Then they come on here and bitch and moan about buying houses and land, then getting hosed by some upcountry hick. What did the 12 million actually get him? Why the need to spend 12 million? How easy to liquidate the capital? His ass is grass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Still no one has answered my simple question regarding ME. Not interested in under the table stuff, opening companies and all that shit. Thai folk can be accepted in my country quite easily, but I, in my situation cannot. know one of the farang hi-so's here can give me a LEGAL answer to someone like me who does not pay taxes BECAUSE I AM RETIRED. Gawd, it is difficult to get a simple answer, but they do not care about someone in my position, sad really........but, expected....... Tell me, how does a Thai move to the uk and become a citizen. You seem to think it is so easy. Take us through the steps and let's compare.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 As I said, I am an old guy, do not work anymore, here or anywhere, My cash takes care of Thai nationals, how do I get accepted. ????????????? Chances are you won't. Quite right too seeing as you make no effort to even learn the language. Your wife taking your pension hardly qualifies as a great spender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If a Thai gets a UK passport they are made, takes a couple (3) years. I signed papers for one........... Now answer my question. Can a retired farang "ME", who has lived here for years, who has taken care of Thai folk for YEARS, who has never worked or paid taxes in LOS get a Thai passport LEGALLY. YES or NO............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Still no one has answered my simple question regarding ME. Not interested in under the table stuff, opening companies and all that shit. Thai folk can be accepted in my country quite easily, but I, in my situation cannot. know one of the farang hi-so's here can give me a LEGAL answer to someone like me who does not pay taxes BECAUSE I AM RETIRED. Gawd, it is difficult to get a simple answer, but they do not care about someone in my position, sad really........but, expected....... Tell me, how does a Thai move to the uk and become a citizen. You seem to think it is so easy. Take us through the steps and let's compare.... Many farang here should be thankful Thailand hasnt (as yet) introduced some of the draconian rules being implemented elsewhere. Wonder how many could pass the Thai equivalent of lets say, living and working in the UK test. Many by their own admission cant speak a word of Thai, never mind read it, or heaven forbid are actually able to write their own name in Thais script. Be thankful, if it aint broke dont fix it, dont ask for what you want, you may wake up one morning and find what you asked for has been approved. Best of luck to you as you converse in Thai at your next extension visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If a Thai gets a UK passport they are made, takes a couple (3) years. I signed papers for one........... Now answer my question. Can a retired farang "ME", who has lived here for years, who has taken care of Thai folk for YEARS, who has never worked or paid taxes in LOS get a Thai passport LEGALLY. YES or NO............................ Are you stupid? Read all the replies. Yes, it is possible. Do you have a yellow book? How many years have you lived here without bothering to find this information out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 the thing is you dont have to spend 12mil, we got 2 rai from grandma, house 1 mill, pig stys and barn 300,000 income from pigs, about 30,000 a month, i still work, everyone happy,, jake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardenedSoul Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> If a Thai gets a UK passport they are made, takes a couple (3) years. I signed papers for one........... alt=thumbsup.gif width=25 height=19> Now answer my question. Can a retired farang "ME", who has lived here for years, who has taken care of Thai folk for YEARS, who has never worked or paid taxes in LOS get a Thai passport LEGALLY. YES or NO............................ alt=thumbsup.gif width=25 height=19> NO And that's the way it should be; the Thais have got it right Your personal situation simply doesn't warrant it Sorry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Can I get a Thai passport and be accepted If I have not worked in LOS and paid taxes ? YES or NO.............simple question, I don't want to know about under the table stuff or starting up companies...... YES or NO................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> If a Thai gets a UK passport they are made, takes a couple (3) years. I signed papers for one........... alt=thumbsup.gif width=25 height=19> Now answer my question. Can a retired farang "ME", who has lived here for years, who has taken care of Thai folk for YEARS, who has never worked or paid taxes in LOS get a Thai passport LEGALLY. YES or NO............................ alt=thumbsup.gif width=25 height=19> NO And that's the way it should be; the Thais have got it right Your personal situation simply doesn't warrant it Sorry Thank you. At last my answer.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Some posts containing flames and bickering have been deleted from this topic. Please be civil to each other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbuman Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also in many Farang countries you'd be welcome if you bring money or have skills that benefits the nation. maybe, but how many farang here do actually bring benefit for the nation except for supporting a wife/family which is considered "evident/normal" according to thai customs ? your definition of benefit is not the thai definition of benefit. My definition and Thai definition? My definition is that I brought in about 12.000.000 baht in the kingdom and I still get the run arounds. Jesus H Christ!!! Are you serious? I thought you were gonna say you'd started a company that employed 50-100 locals and turned over ฿50-100 million baht a year but, instead, you puff out your chest and proudly announce you've brought in "฿12,000,000". There are people who've brought in 10 times that amount, who are married to Thai nationals and they're not bleating on about naturalisation, permanent residency or citizenship. Sorry, but despite what you may think in your own head, you're just not that special. What's the point of how much people bring in or keep out and if they express them self about naturalisation, permanent residency or citizenship or not. I'm afraid you are serious, assumptions, pictures going in your head, and totally missing the point why I started this tread. It looks like that this is not going anywhere and I'm going to let you guys eat this thread till it implodes "if it didn't already". No big deal to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The answer to transam's question is YES, someone in his situation can qualify for Thai citizenship 100% legally if they are willing to expend some time and effort to get the paperwork in order. I have more than one acquaintance who has done just that, and I and other forum members have bent over backwards -- repeatedly -- to tell transam what he needs to do. Since he seems unwilling or unable to expend that small effort to obtain the final qualification he needs, it is clear 100% that he will never be a Thai citizen, and he probably shouldn't impose on well-meaning members' time by asking the same questions and making them repeat the same answers every few weeks. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardenedSoul Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 What's the point of how much people bring in or keep out and if they express them self about naturalisation, permanent residency or citizenship or not. Because, apparently, you genuinely believe that the amount of money you've brought into the country should have at least some bearing on your being granted some form of privileged status in Thailand. I know this because you said that by bringing it here, you have been of "benefit" to the country. You obviously believe that ฿12,00,000 should render you immune to the "runaround". You think it should elevate you above other foreigners like some kind of "club class" or something. It doesn't and it shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 What's the point of how much people bring in or keep out and if they express them self about naturalisation, permanent residency or citizenship or not. Because, apparently, you genuinely believe that the amount of money you've brought into the country should have at least some bearing on your being granted some form of privileged status in Thailand. I know this because you said that by bringing it here, you have been of "benefit" to the country. You obviously believe that ฿12,00,000 should render you immune to the "runaround". You think it should elevate you above other foreigners like some kind of "club class" or something. It doesn't and it shouldn't. Perhaps ordinary Thai folk earning 2/300 bht a day might disagree............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardenedSoul Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 What's the point of how much people bring in or keep out and if they express them self about naturalisation, permanent residency or citizenship or not. Because, apparently, you genuinely believe that the amount of money you've brought into the country should have at least some bearing on your being granted some form of privileged status in Thailand. I know this because you said that by bringing it here, you have been of "benefit" to the country. You obviously believe that ฿12,00,000 should render you immune to the "runaround". You think it should elevate you above other foreigners like some kind of "club class" or something. It doesn't and it shouldn't. Perhaps ordinary Thai folk earning 2/300 bht a day might disagree............ Disagree with what, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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