Suthep announces Monday as day of final war

[ManopY]

Right, back home in England, Monday is Bank Holiday Monday. It's also called International Labour Day for other people.

Thailand, try to understand May Day, Bank Holiday. Yes, up the workers, remember, the ruling elite are controlling and manipulating YOU. They will always try to exploit you with their capital.

All of us, "the people united, will NEVER be defeated".

And if you're not part of the ruling elite, if you're not part of the richest 5 or 10%, ask yourself, why are you supporting a system that will continue the exploitation ??

What are you talking about the ruling elite...?

Thaksin is one of the richest man in the country!

Before him, it was not perfect but everyone could have a piece of the cake!

Now! Only him, his family and the people that submit them self to him can!!!

I did not like the Military Junta before....

But if I have to choose, I prefer it to Thaksin rule!

[RubbaJohnny]

So on Tuesday nothing will have changed then ?

Nothing to be surprised of. The ordinary "final" push...

I think the final hoor is like the ultimate detergent more valued in the breeches

[SamMunich]

Oh you super-hyper-clever writers here on TV, who are so delighted at poking fun at Suthep's call to arms...

OF COURSE he has to increase the priority, else nobody would think it is necessary to join. Final battle or what else, it doesn't matter, as long as it works out as intended.

After all, it is to our advantage, if a government is finally elected AFTER reforms, that is not or at least less corrupt than the various Taksin-sponsored ones. Even though MY personal oppinion is, that we don't need new laws and regulations, we need another and incorupted police force and (at least at the lower levels) justice staff and judges, who can not be bought. All laws are useless, if the entity to enforce them is useless... as the local police force.

Why not make Chuwit the new Minister of the Interior. He at least knows how to deal with corrupt police. And if a new law is really needed, how about a law, that allows to dismiss without any compensation policemen found to be corrupt. Eventually this will work, slowly first, but then faster and faster.

My two Salueng

[northernjohn]

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Right, back home in England, Monday is Bank Holiday Monday. It's also called International Labour Day for other people.

Thailand, try to understand May Day, Bank Holiday. Yes, up the workers, remember, the ruling elite are controlling and manipulating YOU. They will always try to exploit you with their capital.

All of us, "the people united, will NEVER be defeated".

And if you're not part of the ruling elite, if you're not part of the richest 5 or 10%, ask yourself, why are you supporting a system that will continue the exploitation ??

Your proposal is what?

Remember Communism in Russia fell flat on it's face.

"the people united, will NEVER be defeated"

I think the reality is that the people will never be united.

They will always be bickering. Are you talking about all the people being united such as they are in North Korea. They are so united that they voted 100% the same for their leader. That is all the people being united.

[northernjohn]

Oh you super-hyper-clever writers here on TV, who are so delighted at poking fun at Suthep's call to arms...

OF COURSE he has to increase the priority, else nobody would think it is necessary to join. Final battle or what else, it doesn't matter, as long as it works out as intended.

After all, it is to our advantage, if a government is finally elected AFTER reforms, that is not or at least less corrupt than the various Taksin-sponsored ones. Even though MY personal oppinion is, that we don't need new laws and regulations, we need another and incorupted police force and (at least at the lower levels) justice staff and judges, who can not be bought. All laws are useless, if the entity to enforce them is useless... as the local police force.

Why not make Chuwit the new Minister of the Interior. He at least knows how to deal with corrupt police. And if a new law is really needed, how about a law, that allows to dismiss without any compensation policemen found to be corrupt. Eventually this will work, slowly first, but then faster and faster.

My two Salueng

Well for the most part good ideas. How ever it makes no difference how honest the police are if there is no real punishment. Also the police should be completely separate from the government. Neutral makes no difference who is in power.

Well I can dream any how. I know it is not going to happen in my or my children's generation perhaps the grandchildren.

[3NUMBAS]

just like the madman Sadam Hussein, the muva of all wars he promised ,they found the rat in a hole ,suthep should follow his example and climb in a hole in the ground

[Torkmada]

Sutherp, I wish you, every success to your quest.

We are all behind you, voters or non voters.

All TVF, members are with you, even if they pretend they support the red shirts, Thaksin or Yingluck.

Because everybody wants this country, that we all love, to go forward and get rid of the vermin, holding us back.

GOOD LUCK to you and your supporters.

Suthep, you have already failed.

Almost nobody is behind you (this is why you have failed).

Only a bigoted, self loathing depressed and old racist few TVF members remain wilfully ignorant enough to still blindly support you.

Everybody wants this nation to join the ranks of the worlds free and democratic nations and to be free of the military and plutocratic oppressors that have caused so much unnecessary suffering over the decades.

GOOD BYE to you and your paid southern thugs.

[JAG]

Sutherp, I wish you, every success to your quest.

We are all behind you, voters or non voters.

All TVF, members are with you, even if they pretend they support the red shirts, Thaksin or Yingluck.

Because everybody wants this country, that we all love, to go forward and get rid of the vermin, holding us back.

GOOD LUCK to you and your supporters.

Count me out of your crawling little post my Greek friend, you see I don't support Sutheps fascist power grab!

Incidentally, do you want the rest of the Europeans on TVF to fund your enthusiasm. 'Cos that is what normally seems to happen with you lot!

Edited April 30, 2014 by JAG

[Publicus]

Sutherp, I wish you, every success to your quest.

We are all behind you, voters or non voters.

All TVF, members are with you, even if they pretend they support the red shirts, Thaksin or Yingluck.

Because everybody wants this country, that we all love, to go forward and get rid of the vermin, holding us back.

GOOD LUCK to you and your supporters.

You are making a broad, and very ignorant assumptive statement that "We are all behind you", and that "All TVF members are with you." Personally, I think the man is a power hungry megalomaniac, with delusions of grandeur who should have been put away for gross stupidity a long time ago. I'll give him credit for bringing people together to fight the amnesty bill, but after that, the "power and glory" went to his head, and he's become more deranged with each passing day.

If you want to voice YOUR support for this idiot mad man, feel free, as that's you right. But NEVER presume that you speak for everyone in Thailand, and those of us on TVF, and you sure as hell don't speak for me.

I'm guessing Costas may be a fisherman. He certainly knows how to set the bait.

Yea but he fell in the pond when he cast his rod.

[Publicus]

The supporters of Suthep, Abhisit, the military for a military dictatorship and the like are not ignorant.

They are feudalists, committed feudalists.

Too many are also fascists.

"Fascism seeks to build a mass movement of everyone considered part of

the national community, actively engaged but controlled from above, to seize

political power and remake the social order. This movement is driven by a

vision of the national community rising phoenix-like after a period

of encroaching decadence which all but destroyed it.Such rebirth involves

systematic, top-down transformation of all social spheres by an

authoritarian state, and suppression or purging of all forces,

ideologies, and social groups the fascists define as alien."

http://kasamaproject.org/history/2076-8fascism-as-movement-ideology

[englishoak]

Right, back home in England, Monday is Bank Holiday Monday. It's also called International Labour Day for other people.

Thailand, try to understand May Day, Bank Holiday. Yes, up the workers, remember, the ruling elite are controlling and manipulating YOU. They will always try to exploit you with their capital.

All of us, "the people united, will NEVER be defeated".

And if you're not part of the ruling elite, if you're not part of the richest 5 or 10%, ask yourself, why are you supporting a system that will continue the exploitation ??

What are you talking about the ruling elite...?

Thaksin is one of the richest man in the country!

Before him, it was not perfect but everyone could have a piece of the cake!

Now! Only him, his family and the people that submit them self to him can!!!

I did not like the Military Junta before....

But if I have to choose, I prefer it to Thaksin rule!

Not that im a fan of Thaksin as such especially as a person but

That is the most stupid and incorrect assessment of life before him and the Junta i have heard.

Get real that is the whole problem. You really think the millions of rural had even a crumb of the cake before ? not a thing. That is why TRT came to power in the first place. the rural indeed got a slice then and thats why they have re elected the same for the past 14 years. It is also what the main ammart does not wish to continue, that is to share the wealth and power with the growing new money, they would rather it stayed with only the old guard.

There has not been one military ruling Junta that has improved the countries economy or the plight of the lower rural class prior or their prospects since way back in the early 19th century. Not one.

If nothing else this current problem ( building since 2009 ) has highlighted the uselessness and pointlessness of yet another military takeover, Even Abhisit understands it is no solution, Suthep is not part of the future here he represents the past, as does those that wish to have a non elected rule. That is nothing but a gigantic step backwards.

At the same time the current PTP need to realise the hand in the cookie jar and nepotism is no longer acceptable or wanted either. But all sides are guilty of nepotism and that at least it will always be here.

IF there is an election it will probably take place with conditions of a move towards some reforms, I have no doubt that for ALL the parties that may end up in the driving seat the main aim is to allow as much pilfering and thieving as is acceptable. Its been this way forever and it will not change in the near future no matter who is in power.

Thailand needs to accept and understand that to change a corrupt culture such as it is here it cannot be done all at once, it will take decades and patience. Many other things such as education of politics in school, social wealth restrictions where those that have cannot just walk away from a crime, above all responsibility must be taught in school and those students will in time become the agents of real and permanent change.

It will take generations not months and in the meantime there must also be free elections and solid policy that parties can be judged on and booted out by the people in the next election when they do not deliver and not the military. People have to be taught it is one thing to make a promise but when broken they must hold the party responsible. Only by holding accountable an elected government will MPs and all parties understand ... you fail or mess up your out, you deliver your in again.

At the same time an opposition MUST act like one and have policies of their own that interest the WHOLE of class society not just the rich or few. Also they must engage in elections and take a licking with grace until next time and run a proper campaign to garner votes and popularity with ALL classes not just the elite and minority. This is what the dems dont get

This is what works and this is what Thailand had in the early 2000s, since then the rural poor HAVE had it better overall but it is failing fast, partly due to PTP and its bad policies and corruption but also by far too regular interference by the military and appointed and unelected interim governing along with an elitist attitude democrat party that does not appeal or seem to want the support of the vast majority which are the rural poor.

Only by compromise and election can things move forward, that means no one gets everything they want but it does mean they get some of what they do want. No one loses but no one gets all their own way either.

It will take a long time but all sides must be patient and stay the course. Something no one in politics here understands or has grasped

Personally I think that some (Suthep ) would rather gamble to win all or take everything down than share and move forward, but that it Thailand all over, if it continues in the all or nothing vein it will mean a lot more bloodshed and a lot more of what we have seen to come.

Edited April 30, 2014 by englishoak

[Snig27]

Right, back home in England, Monday is Bank Holiday Monday. It's also called International Labour Day for other people.

Thailand, try to understand May Day, Bank Holiday. Yes, up the workers, remember, the ruling elite are controlling and manipulating YOU. They will always try to exploit you with their capital.

All of us, "the people united, will NEVER be defeated".

And if you're not part of the ruling elite, if you're not part of the richest 5 or 10%, ask yourself, why are you supporting a system that will continue the exploitation ??

What are you talking about the ruling elite...?

Thaksin is one of the richest man in the country!

Before him, it was not perfect but everyone could have a piece of the cake!

Now! Only him, his family and the people that submit them self to him can!!!

I did not like the Military Junta before....

But if I have to choose, I prefer it to Thaksin rule!

The military juntas before did really charming things like napalming northern villages they regarded as renegade, machine gunning protesters in the streets and much more. Please read a little Thai history before you post again.

And "everyone" did not have a piece of the cake. One of the primary reasons Thaksin is so popular is because he spread the cake a little further and it wasn't just on offer in the central and southern parts of the country.

You may not like Thaksin, and many people who think Suthep is batshit crazy (as I do) do not either, but just making things up (as you are), is less than helpful.

[Snig27]

Right, back home in England, Monday is Bank Holiday Monday. It's also called International Labour Day for other people.

Thailand, try to understand May Day, Bank Holiday. Yes, up the workers, remember, the ruling elite are controlling and manipulating YOU. They will always try to exploit you with their capital.

All of us, "the people united, will NEVER be defeated".

And if you're not part of the ruling elite, if you're not part of the richest 5 or 10%, ask yourself, why are you supporting a system that will continue the exploitation ??

What are you talking about the ruling elite...?

Thaksin is one of the richest man in the country!

Before him, it was not perfect but everyone could have a piece of the cake!

Now! Only him, his family and the people that submit them self to him can!!!

I did not like the Military Junta before....

But if I have to choose, I prefer it to Thaksin rule!

Not that im a fan of Thaksin as such especially as a person but

That is the most stupid and incorrect assessment of life before him and the Junta i have heard.

Get real that is the whole problem. You really think the millions of rural had even a crumb of the cake before ? not a thing. That is why TRT came to power in the first place. the rural indeed got a slice then and thats why they have re elected the same for the past 14 years. It is also what the main ammart does not wish to continue, that is to share the wealth and power with the growing new money, they would rather it stayed with only the old guard.

There has not been one military ruling Junta that has improved the countries economy or the plight of the lower rural class prior or their prospects since way back in the early 19th century. Not one.

If nothing else this current problem ( building since 2009 ) has highlighted the uselessness and pointlessness of yet another military takeover, Even Abhisit understands it is no solution, Suthep is not part of the future here he represents the past, as does those that wish to have a non elected rule. That is nothing but a gigantic step backwards.

At the same time the current PTP need to realise the hand in the cookie jar and nepotism is no longer acceptable or wanted either. But all sides are guilty of nepotism and that at least it will always be here.

IF there is an election it will probably take place with conditions of a move towards some reforms, I have no doubt that for ALL the parties that may end up in the driving seat the main aim is to allow as much pilfering and thieving as is acceptable. Its been this way forever and it will not change in the near future no matter who is in power.

Thailand needs to accept and understand that to change a corrupt culture such as it is here it cannot be done all at once, it will take decades and patience. Many other things such as education of politics in school, social wealth restrictions where those that have cannot just walk away from a crime, above all responsibility must be taught in school and those students will in time become the agents of real and permanent change.

It will take generations not months and in the meantime there must also be free elections and solid policy that parties can be judged on and booted out by the people in the next election when they do not deliver and not the military. People have to be taught it is one thing to make a promise but when broken they must hold the party responsible. Only by holding accountable an elected government will MPs and all parties understand ... you fail or mess up your out, you deliver your in again.

At the same time an opposition MUST act like one and have policies of their own that interest the WHOLE of class society not just the rich or few. Also they must engage in elections and take a licking with grace until next time and run a proper campaign to garner votes and popularity with ALL classes not just the elite and minority. This is what the dems dont get

This is what works and this is what Thailand had in the early 2000s, since then the rural poor HAVE had it better overall but it is failing fast, partly due to PTP and its bad policies and corruption but also by far too regular interference by the military and appointed and unelected interim governing along with an elitist attitude democrat party that does not appeal or seem to want the support of the vast majority which are the rural poor.

Only by compromise and election can things move forward, that means no one gets everything they want but it does mean they get some of what they do want. No one loses but no one gets all their own way either.

It will take a long time but all sides must be patient and stay the course. Something no one in politics here understands or has grasped

Personally I think that some (Suthep ) would rather gamble to win all or take everything down than share and move forward, but that it Thailand all over, if it continues in the all or nothing vein it will mean a lot more bloodshed and a lot more of what we have seen to come.

Perfectly put, thank you.

[noitom]

The final day of the Suthep perpetual "Going Out Of Business Sale."

[Mango Bob]

So first they are going to pray to an idol, a few days later they will make merit to forgive themselves for all the bad things they have done to this country. Then they will hold the mother of all wars against the government. Why wait almost two weeks for your victory. Why not now. Why? because he knows he can't win without the court or the NACC making a ruling otherwise it will be the same old thing. Sitting in the park making speakers to a few hundred people and his army of armed guards. He can not win on his own.

Now how many of you faithful Suthep supports here on TV will join the rally? I don't expect to see you here running your mouths behind a keyboard. I except to see you blowing your whistlers and cheering your great leader in battle. If you are real supporters that is. But I doubt it most of you are fake old man hiding behind a screen and keyboard.

[moonao]

Hope this doesn't turn into another jonestown massacre where beloved leader makes his yellow shirt followers drink punch juice at the end of d-day

[Thailand]

Can't make Monday's final push as we have guests and will be up in the mountains.

Tuesday's final push, nope, playing golf.

I guess there will be a few more opportunities to miss the "last final push" so I guess I cannot make them either. Doubt if I will be missed either.

I think Suthep will find that a lot of people also have something to do on each of the coming "final pushes" - he is a complete fruitcake.

[webfact]

Suthep disregards EC-Govt talk, schedules new mass protest

BANGKOK, 1 May 2014 (NNT) – Secretary-General of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) Suthep Thaugsuban has expressed disapproval of the meeting between the Election Commission (EC) and the government while setting the next major rally for May 14.

Following the EC’s discussion with the government today about the general election, Mr Suthep declared to his supporters that he would not accept the results of the talk, particularly the election date of July 20 agreed upon by the two sides. He then vowed that the PDRC would push on with its call for pre-election reform.

Mr Suthep invited supporters to come out on May 5 and join the group’s procession from Lumpini Park to Sanam Luang ground, where the participants would organize a praying ceremony in hopes of succeeding in their goals. He said similar activities would also be held in other provinces on the same day.

According to the Secretary-General, a grand merit-making ceremony is scheduled for May 13 on the occasion of Visakha Puja Day, with an aim to bring good fortune to the country before the PDRC stages another mass demonstration on May 14.


-- NNT 2014-05-01

[issanaus]

Suthep disregards EC-Govt talk, schedules new mass protest

BANGKOK, 1 May 2014 (NNT) – Secretary-General of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) Suthep Thaugsuban has expressed disapproval of the meeting between the Election Commission (EC) and the government while setting the next major rally for May 14.

Following the EC’s discussion with the government today about the general election, Mr Suthep declared to his supporters that he would not accept the results of the talk, particularly the election date of July 20 agreed upon by the two sides. He then vowed that the PDRC would push on with its call for pre-election reform.

Mr Suthep invited supporters to come out on May 5 and join the group’s procession from Lumpini Park to Sanam Luang ground, where the participants would organize a praying ceremony in hopes of succeeding in their goals. He said similar activities would also be held in other provinces on the same day.

According to the Secretary-General, a grand merit-making ceremony is scheduled for May 13 on the occasion of Visakha Puja Day, with an aim to bring good fortune to the country before the PDRC stages another mass demonstration on May 14.

-- NNT 2014-05-01

Do I read that right - as being another final push scheduled for the 14th to follow the final push on the 5th ???????????

[Somtamnication]

He's been waging "final battles" since December 4th. This one on Coronation Day will be the final battle of THAT day.

[Lingba]

Final War?.....Yawn! ho hum...Again???

[chooka]

Good so at the end of the day, Suthep will hand himself in for the warrants?

[Patje]

Monday final war

Tuesday final battle

Wednesday final protest

Thursday final victory march

Saturday final of the final

Sunday nothing has changed and we finally go home .....

[Patje]

Sutherp, I wish you, every success to your quest.

We are all behind you, voters or non voters.

All TVF, members are with you, even if they pretend they support the red shirts, Thaksin or Yingluck.

Because everybody wants this country, that we all love, to go forward and get rid of the vermin, holding us back.

GOOD LUCK to you and your supporters.

I'm sure Sutherp (and his brother Suthep) will be thrilled to know that his beloved foreigners are behind him all the way.

Is Suthep Greek ? I didn't know, that's why it takes him so long..... too much corruption ....

[geriatrickid]

I have a feeling that the event may not happen. I sense an intervention will occur.

Just a hunch. Abhisit has launched his "effort" and the PDRC are undermining his plans.

[kurnell]

Load the whole lot of them onto a deserted island with a few clubs, chains and knives and whoever survives can rule the country. Now wouldn't that be great reality TV.

[daveAustin]

How can be someone still a red shirt after all what Thaksin and the red shirts did?

Weird, huh. The country is in a complete mess and has been made relatively very expensive due to actions of the above. The people have not been made wealthier as promised; on the contrary, barring a few pigs with head in trough, they are much worse off and everyone is in debt. They cannot/will not see it because they are brainwashed. Stupidity knows no bounds. Yuck!

[AlphMichaels]

The mouse in the bucket now sees the water line to his nose and his toes are fully extended. May I use your glass?

[Just1Voice]

How can be someone still a red shirt after all what Thaksin and the red shirts did?

Weird, huh. The country is in a complete mess and has been made relatively very expensive due to actions of the above. The people have not been made wealthier as promised; on the contrary, barring a few pigs with head in trough, they are much worse off and everyone is in debt. They cannot/will not see it because they are brainwashed. Stupidity knows no bounds. Yuck!

You can't paint all Red Shirts with the same brush. My wife, and most of her friends, are Red, but NOT necessarily in favor of Thaksin. She sees the good he did, but she is also well aware of his corruption, and doesn't really support him. I know there are quite a few RS here in CNX like that.

[jeanpierre]

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Sutherp, I wish you, every success to your quest.

We are all behind you, voters or non voters.

All TVF, members are with you, even if they pretend they support the red shirts, Thaksin or Yingluck.

Because everybody wants this country, that we all love, to go forward and get rid of the vermin, holding us back.

GOOD LUCK to you and your supporters.

Speak for yourself Greek, not for me.

he is forgotten the army generals in his country!!! at the past