Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ok the wife dropped a bombshell last week telling me there is only a page left in her UK passport meaning she cannot do a visa run as you need at least two pages one being for the ridiculous large visas they use that cover a whole page. She went to the UK embassy today after they siad she can have a 6 month temp passport. when she got there this morning they also told her that visa runs are difficult and many countries wont provide lets say a single or double entry tourist visa. The UK embassy did say the Thai Embassy in Phnom Phen may do it, but researching this is looks all very risky. Her new passport is going to take up to 8 weeks to be processed so we are up sh1t creek without a paddle. Or, does anyone know if its possible to apply for a Non Imm B visa on a temp passport. She has completed a degree this month and the school have said they will do the paperwork in prep for a WP. (Good international school) If we cant find a solution we have to pay the UK Embassy 5000 each month for a transit slip or something then do a visa run for 30 days. Gonna get stressful and expensive. Has anyone had any experience with Temp passports and visa applications. Any info right now would be duly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Would depend on the validity of the emergency passport, but with a validity of 6 months it should be OK. I would apply in laos or Malaysia, as PP. thakes 4 days to issue instead of 2 days. (unles you use an agent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) A UK Citizen can get visa exempt entry to Malaysia, with only small exit/entry stamps that can fit on almost any page in the passport, plus the non 'B' visa from Penang is only one page. Get the job sorted plus WP application successfully filed, all other visa application papers sorted plus 'hide/close' the blank passport page with paper clips to stop a customs official just stamping on the blank page without your wife being able to argue the case for retaining the blank page for the 'b' visa from Penang, Malaysia. Get the visa and 90 day 'B' entry stamp, then apply for the new passport, 90 days should be enough, even for the stupid new system the UK has put in place. Goodness know why the British Embassy advised Phnom Penh, that's probably the worst Thai Consulate to deal with in SE Asia, plus Cambodia requires a one page visa as well! Good luck. Edited May 1, 2014 by digitalchromakey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 thanks for the reply...right now i may just seek a bloody divorce.....last minute....grr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 so I just spoke to her and the UK embassy has cancelled her current passport and she is now wating till this afternoon for the temp one, so thats really screwed things up for Malaysia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 A UK Citizen can get visa exempt entry to Malaysia, with only small exit/entry stamps that can fit on almost any page in the passport, plus the non 'B' visa from Penang is only one page. Get the job sorted plus WP application successfully filed, all other visa application papers sorted plus 'hide/close' the blank passport page with paper clips to stop a customs official just stamping on the blank page without your wife being able to argue the case for retaining the blank page for the 'b' visa from Penang, Malaysia. Get the visa and 90 day 'B' entry stamp, then apply for the new passport, 90 days should be enough, even for the stupid new system the UK has put in place. Goodness know why the British Embassy advised Phnom Penh, that's probably the worst Thai Consulate to deal with in SE Asia, plus Cambodia requires a one page visa as well! Good luck. do you think this is still possible with the emergency passport?. She is talking to her school right now, but its also 1 May so immigration has closed. She is now 1 day into overstay....just getting messier by the min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I read this on the internet that Laos will only issue a 30 day 'Transit' visa to holders of temporary travel documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I read this on the internet that Laos will only issue a 30 day 'Transit' visa to holders of temporary travel documents. that maybe what the UK embassy were getting at with going to PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 The Vientiane website doe not mention types of passports on it's consular webpage. It also has the requirement to get a non-b for teaching which does not require a work permit to get (ignore police report line they don't ask for it). http://vientiane.thaiembassy.org/vientiane/en/consular/consular_check/ The MFA website mentions travel documents for visas also so I don't think she will have a problem. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 The Vientiane website doe not mention types of passports on it's consular webpage. It also has the requirement to get a non-b for teaching which does not require a work permit to get (ignore police report line they don't ask for it). http://vientiane.thaiembassy.org/vientiane/en/consular/consular_check/ The MFA website mentions travel documents for visas also so I don't think she will have a problem. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html cheers for that, i too am scouring these sites. all this info is much appreciated right now :0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 A UK Citizen can get visa exempt entry to Malaysia, with only small exit/entry stamps that can fit on almost any page in the passport, plus the non 'B' visa from Penang is only one page. Get the job sorted plus WP application successfully filed, all other visa application papers sorted plus 'hide/close' the blank passport page with paper clips to stop a customs official just stamping on the blank page without your wife being able to argue the case for retaining the blank page for the 'b' visa from Penang, Malaysia. Get the visa and 90 day 'B' entry stamp, then apply for the new passport, 90 days should be enough, even for the stupid new system the UK has put in place. Goodness know why the British Embassy advised Phnom Penh, that's probably the worst Thai Consulate to deal with in SE Asia, plus Cambodia requires a one page visa as well! Good luck. do you think this is still possible with the emergency passport?. She is talking to her school right now, but its also 1 May so immigration has closed. She is now 1 day into overstay....just getting messier by the min. Honestly I have no idea re no 'B' visa issue with the temp passport, knowing Thailand - probably not. Please keep the forum posted as you/your wife may have 'volunteered' for some serious guinea pig work, navigating some potentially as yet, uncharted areas of Thai bureaucracy. No doubt at best, it will tax every Thai department you wife will have to deal with. As regards the replacement passport, there is a new 'better' system in place for UK passport renewal as of this April - I suggest you have a look at the voluminous thread on this forum to get some idea as to how to deal with the muppets who are now in charge of passport applications in Thailand (btw it's not the UK Embassy anymore). Sorry to hear that the old passport is already cancelled, it may not have been necessary. Well you know what they say, act in haste... Time for a deep breath........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 A UK Citizen can get visa exempt entry to Malaysia, with only small exit/entry stamps that can fit on almost any page in the passport, plus the non 'B' visa from Penang is only one page. Get the job sorted plus WP application successfully filed, all other visa application papers sorted plus 'hide/close' the blank passport page with paper clips to stop a customs official just stamping on the blank page without your wife being able to argue the case for retaining the blank page for the 'b' visa from Penang, Malaysia. Get the visa and 90 day 'B' entry stamp, then apply for the new passport, 90 days should be enough, even for the stupid new system the UK has put in place. Goodness know why the British Embassy advised Phnom Penh, that's probably the worst Thai Consulate to deal with in SE Asia, plus Cambodia requires a one page visa as well! Good luck. do you think this is still possible with the emergency passport?. She is talking to her school right now, but its also 1 May so immigration has closed. She is now 1 day into overstay....just getting messier by the min. Honestly I have no idea re no 'B' visa issue with the temp passport, knowing Thailand - probably not. Please keep the forum posted as you/your wife may have 'volunteered' for some serious guinea pig work, navigating some potentially as yet, uncharted areas of Thai bureaucracy. No doubt at best, it will tax every Thai department you wife will have to deal with. As regards the replacement passport, there is a new 'better' system in place for UK passport renewal as of this April - I suggest you have a look at the voluminous thread on this forum to get some idea as to how to deal with the muppets who are now in charge of passport applications in Thailand (btw it's not the UK Embassy anymore). Sorry to hear that the old passport is already cancelled, it may not have been necessary. Well you know what they say, act in haste... Time for a deep breath........... breathing in and out of a brown paper bag as we speak..lol the school is now calling the different consulates in Penang and Laos to see if its possible. I may tell her to run back to the emabassy and see if they have not processed the passport yet. but they would prob still keep the 5000 baht she gave them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) UK temp passports are valid for 9 months, allowing 3 months of practical use to up to 5 different countries before returning to the point of departure (Thailand) with the required 6 months validity enabling holders to get back in. Some countries do not recognise them therefore the onus is on the holder to check with the appropriate authorities before travelling. HTH Edited May 1, 2014 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 UK temp passports are valid for 9 months, allowing 3 months of practical use to up to 5 different countries before returning to the point of departure (Thailand) with the required 6 months validity enabling holders to get back in. Some countries do not recognise them therefore the onus is on the holder to check with the appropriate authorities before travelling. HTH checking this now, many thx for the info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 out of interest, is it possible to tell the difference of a full or temp? do they look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryLH Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 "UK temp passports are valid for 9 months, allowing 3 months of practical use to up to 5 different countries before returning to the point of departure (Thailand) with the required 6 months validity enabling holders to get back in." I don't think that Thailand requires 6 months validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 out of interest, is it possible to tell the difference of a full or temp? do they look the same. No http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_emergency_passport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) out of interest, is it possible to tell the difference of a full or temp? do they look the same. No http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_emergency_passport Hell No! does offer some good info on validity. She may well be able to get a non imm B. just checked the thai embassies in Penang & Vientiane and they are all closed for labor day. when it rains it pours... Edited May 1, 2014 by Tubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Vientiane is closed Monday and Friday of next week and then again of the 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Vientiane is closed Monday and Friday of next week and then again of the 13th. prob stick her on a plane to Penang. But thx for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Vientiane is closed Monday and Friday of next week and then again of the 13th. prob stick her on a plane to Penang. But thx for the info. Penang is also closed on the 5th and 13th May, but has really great curry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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