Thai 'Red Shirts' warn of civil war if government falls

[zydeco]

So Jatuporn is now officially threatening the security of the state by promising a civil war. Isn't it time for the army to step in and protect the state, as they are sworn to do?

I feel reasonably safe that if it comes to armed opposition that Jatuporn is calling for the army will crush him.

In the mean time what kind of mental health facilities are available here in Thailand. It certainly is time for some one to step in with a net and haul Jatuporn off to one.

Or do like I saw on Asia News in Bali the family just chains him to some thing so he can not leave the room.

A few South African tyres around Jatuporn would be a nice option, considering his yike to burning things.

I don't think he's burning right now. In fact, he might be drowning. Huge lightening and rainstorm going on over near Utthayan for some time, now. All those Little Red Riders might be swept away.

[binjalin]

This is a case where rich men send poor men's sons to fight and die for them to satisfy an insatiable greed for power and money. I don't personally know any Thai person who wants a war. But we do hear rhetoric from the extremists on both sides that is heading Thailand towards that end.

yes but it really is 'old' vs 'new'

this is all about 'paradigm shift'

for me it's clear - there are 'bad' on both sides

but it IS about the elite feudalistic monarchists and those that want freedoms of speech and democracy

the 'reds' and 'yellows' are just a symptom of this struggle

Edited May 10, 2014 by binjalin

[Skywalker69]

Is it any wonder the reds are angry.

Yellow shirts agenda is keep the reds down, they dont like the future with the reds having more money and more education, the yellows are elitist and will do anything to keep the reds in poverty, or let me say the majority Issan reds.

civil war???

strong reds v mamby pamby yellow white faces

My family have lived in a red village for 5 years

and they think you are total BS in posting

My Thai wife has a Masters degree and owns 2 businesses, she is now looking a buying a house in Hua Hin

That sort of bursts your bubble doesn't it

they think you are total BS in posting

He is posting total BS.

[Mrgk]

The red shirts are only asking for an election. Not some far-fetched twisting of the laws appointing an undemocratic PM.

You don't understand - thailand is too corrupt for elections. Well, except for the courts. The courts are really clean and honest. No, really. Stop laughing!

[issanaus]

This is a case where rich men send poor men's sons to fight and die for them to satisfy an insatiable greed for power and money. I don't personally know any Thai person who wants a war. But we do hear rhetoric from the extremists on both sides that is heading Thailand towards that end.

yes but it really is 'old' vs 'new'

this is all about 'paradigm shift'

for me it's clear - there are 'bad' on both sides

but it IS about the elite feudalistic monarchists and those that want freedoms of speech and democracy

the 'reds' and 'yellows' are just a symptom of this struggle

This is the case that those from the rural areas need to have their own voice rather than been tricked and betrayed by either the BKK or CM elites. To achieve that they need democracy at the local, province and national level. AS my wife tells it - yellow or red - different dyes but the same cloth.

[Sattahip2014]

You can definitely see Thaksin's influence in all the delusional statements coming from PTP.

Obviously Thaksin's acquired this delusional GOP/ Tea Party gift of the gab during his years at Sam Houston State University and Eastern Kentucky University.

[sumtingwong]

Getting elected does not make you above the law.

[Sparkles]

There won't be a civil war, the army will step in ,all over in a very short time and Red leaders leaving the country

[wellred]

There won't be a civil war, the army will step in ,all over in a very short time and Red leaders leaving the country

i hope so.

[cdnvic]

Don't waste your time typing insults at others. The posts will be deleted without further comment, and your posting rights will likely disappear with them.

[See the bears]

Red shirts > yellow shirts.

Next election Thaksin party > yellow party

END OF STORY

No matter how many times you try to screw the country over!

[Mrgk]

There won't be a civil war, the army will step in ,all over in a very short time and Red leaders leaving the country

i hope so.

Someone have the time and inclination to create a database of the resident yellows slipping up and wishing for / condoning a military coup? I suggest it be called "the Mask Slips".

PS.

Yeah, I know, "military coup" is actually the 16:th Principle of Democracy. Or something.

[Luk Mhee]

Prime example of democracy “Red Shirt Style”

[sumtingwong]

Red shirts > yellow shirts.

Next election Thaksin party > yellow party

END OF STORY

No matter how many times you try to screw the country over!

That does not mean they can violate the constitution.

[IAMSOBAD]

The heavens must hate Red Shirts...the minute they gather the storms and rain and lightning and thunder drench their party.

It didn't rain for six months of Yellow gathering.

A higher power must know?

Edited May 10, 2014 by IAMSOBAD

[wprime]

If it takes a civil war for the majority of the population to retain their civil rights then so be it.

What civil rights

The people where thrown out by a legal court

and please tell me when you did a count and how, to make your statement "the majority of the population " true

are you for or against the 3 main principles of reform

No 1) we need freedom of speech by all parties in all areas

No 2) Section 102 Enforced

A person under any of the following prohibitions shall have no right to be a candidate in an election of members of the House of Representatives:

(6) having been expelled, dismissed or removed from the official service, a State agency or a State enterprise on the ground of dishonest performance of duties or corruption;

3) All parties yellow and red to abide by the rule of law

seems to me this reform applies to both sides

No 1 seems to apply directly to the red shirts in the N and the NE. I can't see them agreeing to that, no 2 seems to be a blanket ban on everyone and no 3 is unenforceable.

[Mrgk]

Prime example of democracy “Red Shirt Style”

Look, if you are not prepared to settle political issues through the electoral process (at least not without giving said process a good rigging beforehand), noting that this *might* lead to civil war is just a matter of restating the obvious.

Other possible outcomes are a Singapore-style "managed democracy" (the "best" possible outcome), a straight up dictatorship, or just civil war, and / or plain chaos in various other forms (a common outcome when noone can get widespread legitimacy for their rule).

Right now, it´s up to the Yellows to decide if they want to roll the dice. They should be aware of the gravity of the decision that they are making.

[issanaus]

Red shirts > yellow shirts.

Next election Thaksin party > yellow party

END OF STORY

No matter how many times you try to screw the country over!

You may find that Thaksin has screwed the country over one time too many

[Mrgk]

The heavens must hate Red Shirts...the minute they gather the storms and rain and lightning and thunder drench their party.

It didn't rain for six months of Yellow gathering.

A higher power must know?

"PTP - The Rainbringers"

Bow down.

[Skint]

Prime example of democracy “Red Shirt Style”

An elected pm by the masses don't forget. A government yet again cut short of term due to baby crying.

[See the bears]

Red shirts > yellow shirts.

Next election Thaksin party > yellow party

END OF STORY

No matter how many times you try to screw the country over!

You may find that Thaksin has screwed the country over one time too many

If you read books penned by his opponents, i.e. the eunuch Mark Abhisit

[devaram]

If it takes a civil war for the majority of the population to retain their civil rights then so be it.

Having been in a country where there was a military takeover (where I lost relatives) and having lost civilian relatives in a civil war in another SE Asian country I must admit that I am not keen to lose anymore relatives. In both of these SE Asian countries civil rights have not been restored to the level that currently exist in Thailand. So please excuse me for not sharing your enthusiasm.

I dont think anyone is enthusiastic about a war including the red shirts but what do you expect them to do when their rights are taken away by the elites? Should they try to arrange talks? Should they meekly go home and accept being enslaved again. Accept abysmal wages again? Accept no health insurance again?

This is what is coming sooner than later the elites will take away all the hard earned little progress that has been made in the past ten years. Suthep has declared war to wipe out the fledgling democracy of Thailand before it has a chance to grow strong and Jatuporn vows to defend it.

I hate to say it but the color of destiny is red.

[issanaus]

Red shirts > yellow shirts.

Next election Thaksin party > yellow party

END OF STORY

No matter how many times you try to screw the country over!

You may find that Thaksin has screwed the country over one time too many

If you read books penned by his opponents, i.e. the eunuch Mark Abhisit

Lol, no - as told to me by my family and friends - most of whom voted PTP last time, but will not this time

[Thaiisnotrequired]

If it takes a civil war for the majority of the population to retain their civil rights then so be it.

Having been in a country where there was a military takeover (where I lost relatives) and having lost civilian relatives in a civil war in another SE Asian country I must admit that I am not keen to lose anymore relatives. In both of these SE Asian countries civil rights have not been restored to the level that currently exist in Thailand. So please excuse me for not sharing your enthusiasm.

I dont think anyone is enthusiastic about a war including the red shirts but what do you expect them to do when their rights are taken away by the elites? Should they try to arrange talks? Should they meekly go home and accept being enslaved again. Accept abysmal wages again? Accept no health insurance again?

Maybe they should revist merits at the local wat, and band wagon karma? Instead of bandwagoning violence and burning and killing???

Your context is totally distorted.. but then again maybe so your debt to the red family you bought into?

[See the bears]

Red shirts > yellow shirts.

Next election Thaksin party > yellow party

END OF STORY

No matter how many times you try to screw the country over!

You may find that Thaksin has screwed the country over one time too many

If you read books penned by his opponents, i.e. the eunuch Mark Abhisit

Lol, no - as told to me by my family and friends - most of whom voted PTP last time, but will not this time

Well I doubt if the friends amount to 5

[See the bears]

Red shirts > yellow shirts.

Next election Thaksin party > yellow party

END OF STORY

No matter how many times you try to screw the country over!

You may find that Thaksin has screwed the country over one time too many

If you read books penned by his opponents, i.e. the eunuch Mark Abhisit

Lol, no - as told to me by my family and friends - most of whom voted PTP last time, but will not this time

Oh, so will they be voting for Lung Gamnam's anti-democratic <deleted> party?

[Thaiisnotrequired]

You may find that Thaksin has screwed the country over one time too many

If you read books penned by his opponents, i.e. the eunuch Mark Abhisit

Lol, no - as told to me by my family and friends - most of whom voted PTP last time, but will not this time

Oh, so will they be voting for Lung Gamnam's anti-democratic <deleted> party?

Whatever is bearing down upon you, please......... see both sides, and not your only blind way to choose a path.

a famous tibetan proverb apparently says see 2 eyes in the woods and it is a tiger ready to eat you ( I forget the poster ),,, but what if it was a one eyed snake is apparent enough. .. cool ID name though..... do you have an infactuation with bears?

[SABloke]

You may find that Thaksin has screwed the country over one time too many

If you read books penned by his opponents, i.e. the eunuch Mark Abhisit

Lol, no - as told to me by my family and friends - most of whom voted PTP last time, but will not this time

Oh, so will they be voting for Lung Gamnam's anti-democratic party?

Whatever is bearing down upon you, please......... see both sides, and not your only blind way to choose a path.

a famous tibetan proverb apparently says see 2 eyes in the woods and it is a tiger ready to eat you ( I forget the poster ),,, but what if it was a one eyed snake is apparent enough. .. cool ID name though..... do you have an infactuation with bears?

Nah...he just spelt 'beers' wrong

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[issanaus]

edit ... no of quotes

Lol, no - as told to me by my family and friends - most of whom voted PTP last time, but will not this time

Oh, so will they be voting for Lung Gamnam's anti-democratic <deleted> party?

NO, never democrats, but anyone else maybe

as for you other post:

Try half the small "red village"

5 is the number of other kids that I bought school uniforms for so that they could go to school - their parents are rice farmers so I am sure that you can understand what the problem was.

Please remember the form rules about spelling peoples names

[Skywalker69]

Prime example of democracy “Red Shirt Style”

An elected pm by the masses don't forget. A government yet again cut short of term due to baby crying.

An elected pm by the masses don't forget

Elected????