Why are farang so unhappy about successful farang in Thailand?

[Pralaad]

The OP is a fantasist, that appears to get his self worth from posting tales of his "success" with hookers etc. he's upset that posters can smell a troll, and he keeps getting called on it.

He now resorts to calling posters who question his familiar posting style "bitter" or "losers" or pressing the report button.

Anyway, the responses are very entertaining, even if the OP isn't.

I do not know why, but for some reason OP is very similar to someone who has gone missing now by the name Phrones or something.

Phrones also had many gf's, half his age, he wore him out sexually, made him juice and he was self declared millionaire.

[WitawatWatawit]

"Its interesting how in normal non-Thai forums, posters tend to be helpful, cheerful and encouraging when someone posts about their success.

Yet in ThaiVisa, its almost the opposite."

^^^^ From the OP.

Define normal. List the websites - notably non-specific interest ones like TV which broach a wide range of issues.

Second question: Define normal non-Thai posters. (Better still, define normal Thai posters )

Third question: Will you promise to keep launching your thoroughly normal threads so my miserable, thoroughly normal suburban existence can be uplifted occasionally?

PS: I call myself wit-a-wat-what-a-WIT because I'm lonely and desperate for love and attention.

[rgs2001uk]

The OP is a fantasist, that appears to get his self worth from posting tales of his "success" with hookers etc. he's upset that posters can smell a troll, and he keeps getting called on it.

He now resorts to calling posters who question his familiar posting style "bitter" or "losers" or pressing the report button.

Anyway, the responses are very entertaining, even if the OP isn't.

Nice avatar there Mr T, paying homage to the great man himself, do you think it could be the great man himself posting?

[mrtoad]

The OP is a fantasist, that appears to get his self worth from posting tales of his "success" with hookers etc. he's upset that posters can smell a troll, and he keeps getting called on it.

He now resorts to calling posters who question his familiar posting style "bitter" or "losers" or pressing the report button.

Anyway, the responses are very entertaining, even if the OP isn't.

Nice avatar there Mr T, paying homage to the great man himself, do you think it could be the great man himself posting?

I think the great man is more together than the OP

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[Trouble]

My observations about posters on Thai Visa is generally that there are a number of posters who tend to be mostly negative and sarcastic. Not all are like that but a number significant enough to be noticeable Seems like most of the negative posters actually reside in Thailand. I do not live in Thailand but have been traveling to Thailand since my first trip in 1972. I know many expats and Thais alike. I have spent a lot of time there but am no expert. I have however spent a significant enough amount of time with expats to see how many of them live. I would put expats into two main groups. Those that are married and been able to work legally at well paying jobs and have made a life in Thailand, and those who have retired or those who have decided to retire early and live in Thailand. The first group is generally more positive while the second group tends to be more negative. Obviously there are exceptions.

Those who have retired in Thailand or those who have retired early generally speaking are on fixed incomes and mostly single males. The early retirees are the ones making visa runs and are most likely living under more stress. The retirees moved to Thailand because it is inexpensive to live and/or because sex is available (not putting all into same category here). To me income is the critical factor. Most of the group who are on fixed incomes are not by any measure living the "good life" in Thailand. I am not saying they are living on the edge but their incomes don't allow them to live the type of life where they have a lot of discretionary income to spend on out of the ordinary good times, i.e. travel, fine dining or whatever. Many are men, not married, either still trying to hook up with bar girls and finding that type of life less than satisfying or those that might be married or have girlfriends and finding that cultural/age differences are sometimes difficult. These people live with more stress. Many end up living as expats among expat friends of like economic means. They find life not as fulfilling as those that work and have good jobs and they therefore tend to be more negative about things when posting here.

Thai Visa is an outlet for them to vent anger, hostility, etc. They become jealous of those that have more and are successful. Obviously these are generalizations and do not apply to all posters. But from years of reading and posting on TV, my observations are that there are just a lot of negative people here with no life. They hate the hi-so Thais, they hate the Shinawatras, they hate the wealthy kids that spend more in one evening then the retires can spend in a month, they hate the fact that Thailand has a class society, they hate other posters who are successful, happy and positive mostly because they have are none of these things. It is the old "sour-grapes" mentality. I certainly do not believe that all posters fit in this category but let's face facts, if you are on the computer posting something negative or sarcastic on every damn article on this and that you need to get out and get a life. Sure we all have opinions and even I do my share of postings but I don't live on this forum. I do have a life outside of Thailand and Thai Visa. Living in a foreign country such as Thailand with the dramatic cultural/language differences and living with financial limitations is stressful and I think you see that come out particularly when someone is posting about being happy and successful in their endeavors.

With that said, I also know that there are many people on this forum that do not fit in any category I have suggested above. We are all different and many of us just enjoy keeping abreast of things going on in Thailand and posting our opinions. I mostly read the posts to look for the witty, dry humor that many of you are so good at. I am often looking just for a witty remark which brings me a smile. But let's face facts, there is definitely a significant number of negative and/or sarcastic posts here and that tells you something about those posters. So don't let those negatives sour your day and keep posting about the bright side of life and successes.

[HeavyDrinker]

The fat slap head no woman no money liar where u stay is angry at those of us who live the life he fantasises about as he wanks gently into his socks

[HeavyDrinker]

Double posts on this prats post

Edited May 15, 2014 by HeavyDrinker

[obnoxious troll]

have yet to meet anyone who is successfully retired who is in anyway or form jealous of those who have to go to work, especially in this country.

Edited May 15, 2014 by obnoxious troll

[Thaiberius]

A few years back I had a small bar in Pattaya. It really opened my eyes as to how petty and vindictive farangs can be. Other farang businessmen seemed to get a kick out of badmouthing others, running to the police and generally causing trouble for other farangs. I kept myself very much to myself and didn't join any of the different factions. In the end it just wasn't worth the hassle for the meagre rewards. Many of the bar owners are existing on pretty poor earnings and resent anybody who makes a comparable success of their business. The bar wasn't my main source of income, my intention was to have a good time but it soon became clear that unless you joined up with the bitter farangs you would be treated as an outsider.

I stay in touch with a few of the good guys but the majority of others I met just aren't worth it. I think part of the reason for the hate is they feel trapped after the dream isn't what they thought it would be and there is no way out for them.

[HeavyDrinker]

Fellas we need to accept this prick is living the life we all wish for

[Tmymaimee]

Oh, Mr. Toad and Heavy Drinker...welcome back. Just waiting on Hardened Soul to complete the angry/bitter party.

The complete hyprocrisy of their rants is that every time I have offered to meet them in person, they laugh and decline, then ridicule. Like the schoolyard bully that knows that one kid will kick his head in so he never quite goes too far as to expose his bluff.

Of course, should they meet me and realize I haven't been lying, would they actually post the truth here? Likely not. Face thing and all.

[lostlink]

Some people are just braggarts... I left "show and tell" back at a place called kindergarten............ Some people will always have more than me and some will always have less, I could care less.

[monkeycountry]

This is what I am referring to. If someone has nothing to contribute, they say you are a "troll"??? But why can't they simply ignore a topic if they have nothing worthwhile to contribute? Puzzling....

A more puzzling question is, why make up stories and post them on an anonymous forum? What are the benefits?

[monkeycountry]

Wow, Whereustay is actually talking about something else besides getting laid. How refreshing.

As for the OP, I have no problem with anyone becoming successful in life. I applaud them. The problem is people tend to come on TV and lie about their success, as if to impress people and in essence, making their opinion about anything more credible. Or so they think. Unless it's somehow essential to the issue being discussed, why even bring up your personal wealth?

But why the assumption they are lying? Perhaps they are entirely truthful....you don't know unless you've met them. I'm not referring to personal wealth necessarily. If someone talks about a new Mercedes they bought and the topic was new cars, so therefore entirely relevant to the topic, why so many posters on TV would be negative towards him?

I only ask this because I'm on a sailboat forum for a bit now, and everyone seems to get along so well, are helpful and encouraging. Here it seems like its just so many, angry, bitter people when you talk about so many topics.

The assumption stems from jealousy. This forum is full of extremely envious and bitter men.

If you don't believe me, start another thread and tell everyone how your new girlfriend is upper class and Thai-Chinese. After that, sit back and watch as the creeps come crawling out of the woodwork.

If everyone on this forum were wealthy and married to Venezuelan supermodels, there would be no jealousy at all.

Truth is, of course, most forum members are married to middle-aged runts, ex whores or tattooed peasants. Another problem is that lots of men are stuck in ruts and coming to terms with the fact that they'll never reach the top of their profession.

What a sad existence. Maybe that's why so many farang kill themselves in Thailand. Maybe sometimes they are not wrong to kill themselves as really, what other options do they have? Like that British guy on here with no friends or money returning to England. Would anyone care if he just jumped off a roof? Nope.

You mean the OP?

[HardenedSoul]

Oh, Mr. Toad and Heavy Drinker...welcome back. Just waiting on Hardened Soul to complete the angry/bitter party.

The complete hyprocrisy of their rants is that every time I have offered to meet them in person, they laugh and decline, then ridicule. Like the schoolyard bully that knows that one kid will kick his head in so he never quite goes too far as to expose his bluff.

Of course, should they meet me and realize I haven't been lying, would they actually post the truth here? Likely not. Face thing and all.

Actually, technically, I agree with the premise in your OP but not its intent.

Why would I care if you've been telling the truth or not? I'm impressed by personalities , charisma, substance. You, by your own admission, don't have any of that.

Why would I come on here and say, "Guess what? Whereustay's telling the truth. He''s got some dosh and he's seeing a few birds"?

I'm comfortably off and I'm seeing a few birds too but I don't feel the need to start a thread about it, do I?

Anyway, look:

I know you just want to be the guy with the prowess with women other guys envy or admire but you're not

I know you just want to be the guy with the kind of money other guys envy or admire but you're not

At your age, you should know better but you're still trying to be like the alpha males/jocks you so admired back home.

Trouble is, little man, the world's moved on.

[HeavyDrinker]

The OP is in the UK wishing he were here. Don't expect a reply from the liar unless his mother lets him use the computer again...if he hasn't shagged his mother as a goal in his fake life....

Hardened soul (aka Whereustay) far cough you have no money and are still a fannyhole...with no bird....

Edited May 15, 2014 by HeavyDrinker

[HardenedSoul]

You're a real quality guy, aren't you HD?

I can take or leave Whereustay's interminable trolling - sometimes it kills an hour or so but you? You're worse.

He's a wind up merchant but you; you're just a foul-mouthed grunt full to bursting with the kind of bile and hatred that oozes from every letter in every sentence in every post you make.

God help your wife

[balo]

OP should change his avatar to TROLL !

[mrtoad]

Oh, Mr. Toad and Heavy Drinker...welcome back. Just waiting on Hardened Soul to complete the angry/bitter party.

The complete hyprocrisy of their rants is that every time I have offered to meet them in person, they laugh and decline, then ridicule. Like the schoolyard bully that knows that one kid will kick his head in so he never quite goes too far as to expose his bluff.

Of course, should they meet me and realize I haven't been lying, would they actually post the truth here? Likely not. Face thing and all.

Morning Dick

Thought you would be busy. Pressing the report button again?

Never invited me to meet you. Happy to meet you under a bridge though when I get back

Not living in fantasy world

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[mrtoad]

The OP is in the UK wishing he were here. Don't expect a reply from the liar unless his mother lets him use the computer again...if he hasn't shagged his mother as a goal in his fake life....

Hardened soul (aka Whereustay) far cough you have no money and are still a fannyhole...with no bird....

First part is corrrect.

HS though is not whereustay

Play nice lads, you have both been aroind a while

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[mrtoad]

Oh, Mr. Toad and Heavy Drinker...welcome back. Just waiting on Hardened Soul to complete the angry/bitter party.

The complete hyprocrisy of their rants is that every time I have offered to meet them in person, they laugh and decline, then ridicule. Like the schoolyard bully that knows that one kid will kick his head in so he never quite goes too far as to expose his bluff.

Of course, should they meet me and realize I haven't been lying, would they actually post the truth here? Likely not. Face thing and all.

Face thing????

Press report Bud, like you normally do.

You are a Troll

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[Goonar]

It is because in western society we brought up not show out ! Apart from the U.S that is. I am a great believer in , if you accomplish something then why not be proud of it .. The jealousy derives from people who deep down are just jelouse , plain and simple . I think in a Buddhist society it is more being accepting of where one is and tomorrow is always another day. I visited a village in Laos . One village had some ramshackle huts as living accommodation and other family's had kind of top of the range rose wood tinted window 3 bedroom affairs . I asked the guide if the other people in the village were jelouse of the one or two sets who had this luxury ? He said without pause , no not at all.. Unfortunately in our western negative , I want. I want , throw away society We harbour unhealthy feelings of , why does he/she have and I don't ! Clearly there are a small percentage of people on this earth who fall into money and everything it brings , is this wrong ?? Who is anyone to say , he/ she should not be able to self congratulate without people becomeing jelouse!! It's a sad world sometimes ;-)

[Thaiberius]

It is because in western society we brought up not show out ! Apart from the U.S that is. I am a great believer in , if you accomplish something then why not be proud of it .. The jealousy derives from people who deep down are just jelouse , plain and simple . I think in a Buddhist society it is more being accepting of where one is and tomorrow is always another day. I visited a village in Laos . One village had some ramshackle huts as living accommodation and other family's had kind of top of the range rose wood tinted window 3 bedroom affairs . I asked the guide if the other people in the village were jelouse of the one or two sets who had this luxury ? He said without pause , no not at all.. Unfortunately in our western negative , I want. I want , throw away society We harbour unhealthy feelings of , why does he/she have and I don't ! Clearly there are a small percentage of people on this earth who fall into money and everything it brings , is this wrong ?? Who is anyone to say , he/ she should not be able to self congratulate without people becomeing jelouse!! It's a sad world sometimes ;-)

Reject materialism and ones life becomes a lot simpler.

[philliphn]

I think that their are a lot of people who are very jealous of other people. What is surprising, is that often, you don't even have to have a lot more, just a little more, than they do. As I worked, got more education, and had some fortunate family circumstances, involving those same things. Over time, I became by most people's standards a very wealthy man. I don't flaunt my money. I stay at inexpensive hotels. I wear a cheap watch. I don't buy the most expensive car that I can afford. When I mention that this is what I do. I have other TV members saying what a liar I must be. Because,a wealthy man would just not do that. So they say. I once reacquainted myself with an old friend. I had become very wealthy since having seen him last. I thought that he would be happy for me. We had been very good friends. But, instead I got a lot of jealous anger from him. All I did was fill him in on what had happened during the last 20 years. Since he had worked little, decided not to get any education, and his family were not as financially succesful. He became, very angry that things had gone well for me. At some point. I told my former boss, and another car pool friend. I was very surprised how resentful, and hostile, they then became towards me. A lot of people seem to feel better about themselves. When things go wrong for other people, and not right.

[Larry001]

Because a good 50+% of members on this site are losers who have failed most oftheir lives. Namely 'tall poppy syndrome'

[neverdie]

Easy...If you are successful you are busy....If you are busy you are not in this forum....

Well I'm on holiday for a couple of weeks, so that blows that generalisation out of the water. You might be surprised at some of the "successful" people that post here regularly.

I use to be successful, but now I'm just old.

or was it. I use to be useful and now I'm just uselessly old.

ohhh it doesn't matter, what's that word Donny uses.....fudgeitxxxxxxx ????

Anyway, what's classified successful in one mans world might not equal another's. I've know some simple folk, who had simplistic type work, lived well and retired without too much fuss or adoo, they're extremely happy In life, in my eyes they were the really successful ones.

who cares what some t w a t on the internet thinks!

[saakura]

It depends on how you define success. I'm not rich, but earn a decent salary in Bangkok which allows me to save a little more each month. I juggle multiple girlfriends, eat and exercise well and avoid unhappy people.

Long ago I asked myself: What do I want from this life? Wealth or wisdom?

To become super-wealthy, you can't work a 40-hour work week, but have to work 60 hours, at least 6 days a week and take your work home with you. In your limited free time you think and talk a lot about work. Which leaves little time for interesting books, movies and travel. Is happiness becoming rich and impressing other people? That sounds a little sad and pathetic.

So I chose wisdom and hence I read voraciously, watch obscure movies and documentaries, and travel to tourist-free locations.

All points very good and well taken, spoken like a wise man of experience .... however...does 'juggling multiple girlfriends' as you say, and no doubt cheating on one behind the other give you 'true' or 'transient' happiness?

[neverdie]

The fat slap head no woman no money liar where u stay is angry at those of us who live the life he fantasises about as he wanks gently into his socks

I read your posts HD and I often left confused, bedazzled, but I am at least surprised that you failed to mention your 'farts' in this message. Normally there is at least some reference to 'farts'.

Are you okay today?

[neverdie]

My observations about posters on Thai Visa is generally that there are a number of posters who tend to be mostly negative and sarcastic. Not all are like that but a number significant enough to be noticeable Seems like most of the negative posters actually reside in Thailand. I do not live in Thailand but have been traveling to Thailand since my first trip in 1972. I know many expats and Thais alike. I have spent a lot of time there but am no expert. I have however spent a significant enough amount of time with expats to see how many of them live. I would put expats into two main groups. Those that are married and been able to work legally at well paying jobs and have made a life in Thailand, and those who have retired or those who have decided to retire early and live in Thailand. The first group is generally more positive while the second group tends to be more negative. Obviously there are exceptions.

Those who have retired in Thailand or those who have retired early generally speaking are on fixed incomes and mostly single males. The early retirees are the ones making visa runs and are most likely living under more stress. The retirees moved to Thailand because it is inexpensive to live and/or because sex is available (not putting all into same category here). To me income is the critical factor. Most of the group who are on fixed incomes are not by any measure living the "good life" in Thailand. I am not saying they are living on the edge but their incomes don't allow them to live the type of life where they have a lot of discretionary income to spend on out of the ordinary good times, i.e. travel, fine dining or whatever. Many are men, not married, either still trying to hook up with bar girls and finding that type of life less than satisfying or those that might be married or have girlfriends and finding that cultural/age differences are sometimes difficult. These people live with more stress. Many end up living as expats among expat friends of like economic means. They find life not as fulfilling as those that work and have good jobs and they therefore tend to be more negative about things when posting here.

Thai Visa is an outlet for them to vent anger, hostility, etc. They become jealous of those that have more and are successful. Obviously these are generalizations and do not apply to all posters. But from years of reading and posting on TV, my observations are that there are just a lot of negative people here with no life. They hate the hi-so Thais, they hate the Shinawatras, they hate the wealthy kids that spend more in one evening then the retires can spend in a month, they hate the fact that Thailand has a class society, they hate other posters who are successful, happy and positive mostly because they have are none of these things. It is the old "sour-grapes" mentality. I certainly do not believe that all posters fit in this category but let's face facts, if you are on the computer posting something negative or sarcastic on every damn article on this and that you need to get out and get a life. Sure we all have opinions and even I do my share of postings but I don't live on this forum. I do have a life outside of Thailand and Thai Visa. Living in a foreign country such as Thailand with the dramatic cultural/language differences and living with financial limitations is stressful and I think you see that come out particularly when someone is posting about being happy and successful in their endeavors.

With that said, I also know that there are many people on this forum that do not fit in any category I have suggested above. We are all different and many of us just enjoy keeping abreast of things going on in Thailand and posting our opinions. I mostly read the posts to look for the witty, dry humor that many of you are so good at. I am often looking just for a witty remark which brings me a smile. But let's face facts, there is definitely a significant number of negative and/or sarcastic posts here and that tells you something about those posters. So don't let those negatives sour your day and keep posting about the bright side of life and successes.

Hello Trouble,

Fair effort you went to there, some of it is probably more accurate than some posters are prepared to admit.

I was disappointed you didnt cover my classification, which I know a few others, such as MRTOAD, fit into. We just like a laugh, nothing bitter about it, but some people just walk around with their chins right out. begging to be sucker punched. I realise this isn't really the Christian or Buddhist way, but it can be mildly entertaining for us 'simple' folk.

I like the way TVF brings certain items together for me, various news clips, insightful assistance from those with knowledge and a really insightful database of information which covers everything from hemorrhoids to brain transplant surgery and just about everything in between.

I also have a small group of people I communicate with in secret areas of the forum and there we gather to exchange information and ideas and sometimes even developed 'policy' to change the world. Occasionally we meet out somewhere and paint the town red with a 30 baht street feed and a red bull.

Im done with competing with people, not interested and some would say the race to the bottom has already been won. I couldn't give a rats fat b u m what the next guy is or isn't doing as long as he doesn't get in my road as I trundle to my next appointment.

Having said all that, I've been accused of being everything on this forum from a drunk no hoper (I'm a tea tattling no hoper) to a rich first grade snob (I was only ever a working class second grade snob) and just about everything In between. The basic fact to the matter is there is virtually every type of human being on this forum as there is walking the street any street in the world. I would even suggest the diversity is even greater In here, to some extent.

Anyway, it's my opinion that whereyoustay managed to drag someone like you out, to comment that is and for that He has done well indeed, as have you. Good day.

Edited May 15, 2014 by neverdie

[mrtoad]

Easy...If you are successful you are busy....If you are busy you are not in this forum....

Well I'm on holiday for a couple of weeks, so that blows that generalisation out of the water. You might be surprised at some of the "successful" people that post here regularly.

I use to be successful, but now I'm just old.

or was it. I use to be useful and now I'm just uselessly old.

ohhh it doesn't matter, what's that word Donny uses.....fudgeitxxxxxxx ????

Anyway, what's classified successful in one mans world might not equal another's. I've know some simple folk, who had simplistic type work, lived well and retired without too much fuss or adoo, they're extremely happy In life, in my eyes they were the really successful ones.

who cares what some t w a t on the internet thinks!

Good point ND, measuring success is subjective, as opposed to objective.

Seen some very happy people, enjoying great lives without massive amounts of cash and material items. Also seen some very wealthy people who are total <deleted> ups and miserable.

A simple happy life would be nice :-)

Being bitter no, calling out Trolls yes :-)