UDD hits back at Thai Army General Prayuth Chan-ocha

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UDD hits back at General Prayuth Chan-ocha



BANGKOK: -- United Front of Democracy against Dictatorship chairman Jatuporn Promphan hit back at Army Commander-in-Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha’s seven-point statement issued on Thursday.

He said that the military had no responsibility whatsoever to resolve the political conflict but to defend the country and that the role to resolve the conflict rests with the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order.

In response to the army chief’s warning the use of war weapons against the protesters by unidentified elements, Jatuporn said he wondered whether the army chief was preparing to impose martial law.

He went on to ask whether General Prayuth wanted to convey a message the army might stage a coup when the latter said that the army would deploy full force to deal with the violence.

Jatuporn asked why the military just sat idly by and did not issue any condemnation statement afterward when anti-government protesters tried to break into the conference room of the Royal Thai Air Force where a meeting was going on between the government and the Election Commission on Thursday.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/udd-hits-back-general-prayuth-chan-ocha/


-- Thai PBS 2014-05-16

[The stuttering parrot]

A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

[pmugghc]

How about some comments from the caretaking government and UDD condemning the recent grenade attack that left 3 dead and 20+ people injured?

[rabas]

ol' Jatuporn seems pretty concerned about stopping the violence.

[NongKhaiKid]

Did he say anything about Chalerm promising to protect the reds and if anti-govt protesters cop grenades they deserve it ?

[noitom]

It's a great question. Why has the Thai army stood still? Going back to the airport closure. How could the Thai army be saying their role is security of the Thai people and visitors while they sit by and let the PAD now the PDRC close government facilities and create massive international security breaches.

[stickyrice2000]

That's a good one. LOL

[Cnxforever]

The general did maybe not realize that over the years most of his officers have been transferred to "inactive posts" so doing nothing is actually their job!

Same seems to be true for the police in this country!

[casualbiker]

It's a great question. Why has the Thai army stood still? Going back to the airport closure. How could the Thai army be saying their role is security of the Thai people and visitors while they sit by and let the PAD now the PDRC close government facilities and create massive international security breaches.

Maybe because Thailand has a police force AND maybe the army have learned from mistakes in 2010.. others don't seem to have done the same!

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[love1012]

A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

..................You must be talking about the red garbage on the streets now with protection from their bent master while they carry on killing innocent sleeping people................i notice no remorse OR comment from Thai Visa red apologists about the latest killings - except to play the juvenile record "heehee they blew themselves up" . But yet they would expect apologies IF a redshirt were ever attacked.

Very suss!!

The army needs to step in and not worry about casualties

[Thait Spot]

I think the big question is why was CAPO unable to protect the meeting and where were the police?

It was a bit stupid to allow Surhep to do that

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[love1012]

How about some comments from the caretaking government and UDD condemning the recent grenade attack that left 3 dead and 20+ people injured?

They made their comment by saying NOTHING!! Yet they expect to NOT be attacked themselves.

This Government dont care about half the population of Thailand - only their own ends. There is NO WAY forward for Thailand with Pheu Thai and UDD leading the country.

So give us a fair election one where Democrats and any other party can stand in the Northeast on equal, protected terms with PT and other parties candidates are not bribed, bullied and murdered for not voting for Shinawatra candidates.

What a Government, what a rancid pressure group, what a dictator waiting in the wings, what a MESS they've caused!!

Edited May 16, 2014 by love1012

[daveAustin]

Jatuporn asked why the military just sat idly by and did not issue any condemnation statement afterward when anti-government protesters tried to break into the conference room of the Royal Thai Air Force where a meeting was going on between the government and the Election Commission on Thursday.

Mai pen rail.

But why's he picking on you? Because you're the bad guys, innit.

And careful not to wind the big boy up, little pawn, or it could be bottom-smacking time!

[love1012]

It's a great question. Why has the Thai army stood still? Going back to the airport closure. How could the Thai army be saying their role is security of the Thai people and visitors while they sit by and let the PAD now the PDRC close government facilities and create massive international security breaches.

Because if they get involved Shinawatra will start blubbing to the international community that theyve caused a civil war. The army are playing it right but the other side needs to build links to explain outside Thailand too. They should be shouting from the roof tops about corruption, rice pledging, 27 innocent unarmed people being murdered by red shirts/ Shinawatras and unfair elections.

Also the army knows that if they step in the third higher power may have to become invoolved and unlike the red shirts and PT they respect that institution!!

[chainarong]

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A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

Why?? Is the military taking on the roll of the police , that is a police area, not the military, perhaps the military will use these little episodes to show cause why they need to take control, as the Police have proven they are useless, you can never tell what they are thinking..

[rogeratkins]

Capo task ?A big joke What have they done so far with 28 deaths already this Capo? They are doing nothing to protect civilians they even sympathise with the attacks and even say that there will be more attacks . Well Capo if you know that there will be more attacks you should do something about it but you are not neutral that is the problem .It is time the army step in and restore order and peace .As far as my memory is good is that not the same red shirt leader who said burn Bangkok down and it happened too

[The stuttering parrot]

So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

[jonclark]

A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

It seems to me that you are clearly stating that you don't understand why the army didn't stop the PDRC from entering the building at the Thai Air Force base where the meeting was taking place. Correct?

If that is your stance - that the army should have stopped the PDRC from entering - then by extension you are agreeing that the army should be involved in civilian law and order matters. Why do you want the army involved? If you want the army involved to prevent the PDRC from breaking the law (i.e. entering a meeting), then you must also want the army involved against those who use war weapons against the PDRC and innocent civilian who get caught in the cross fire. There can be no double standards - you know that better than anyone!

I find it odd that you actually support the position of General Prayuth.

Personally i think the army should not be involved in any aspect of civilian law and order matters unless directly requested to do so by the civilian government. The police should have stopped the PDRC, the police should be finding and bringing to justice all people who commit violence on others.

[Thait Spot]

So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

If PTP really wanted the talks to take place, surely they would have arranged for police protection at the venue of their choosing?

Suthep could have been arrested at the same time.

What is so wrong with political reform? The country's been in suspended animation for 6 months during which time the PTP could have seized the initiative rather than bleating about everything and everybody

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[casualbiker]

So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

How many times have the Red shirts been attacked?

Allowing a breakthrough! Who is it that continues to threaten others with court action all the while saying the courts are doing a coup.

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[ginjag]

So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

Yellows again Suthep again, complete wind up merchant.

Jutaporn is going on orders from Thaksin me thinks, provoking the army chief, the only weapon left for Thaksin to save face.

Armies fault the staged a coup----sick man is this fugitive.

There really is no attack, only the government to blame--it will show clearly when the circus show is over-------government total mismanagement--self inflicted downfall.---------Mr SP. troll

[rreddin]

A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

Here is the problem for the army: It would be very difficult for them to answer the question without confirming their support PAD/PRDC. More likely they will remain silent and let people believe what they want to believe. Either way, they do not have the hearts and minds of all Thai people.

[jonclark]

So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

You need to stop looking at the situation in such a black and white perspective (or red and yellow in this instance). Most people are equally sick of both sides of this polar divide, both in terms of personal and ideology.

There is an increasingly large 'grey' middle ground here both the 'reds' and 'yellow' are ignoring. Highlighted by the pitiful turnouts at the recent UDD and PDRC rallies.

The problem here is that each side will continue to shoot down any chance of going forward because each side is comprised of complete morons with neither a shred of decency, common sense or morality between any of them. And each side has this fantasy that it wants to be Thailand's heroic saviour that leads the country from darkness into light and they'll be dammed if they will let their opponents win and lose face.

[WhizBang]

So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

Actually it would appear that some progress is being made. In the Senate.

As for Jatuporn et al, they should just keep their mouths shut. Better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and confirm it.

Ever since day 1 when the UDD formed, I have always thought they got the name wrong. It should be United Front for Dictatorship against Democracy. As that is what their boss is... a dictator. Thaksin only wants a faux democracy, one where he is in complete and absolute control of everything.

[Bkungbank]

If we cheated in casino , we don't win every time as very obviously we are cheating on the game, conclusion UDD noting happen and opposite gets all the troubles.

[GeorgeO]

A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

A couple of better questions would be: (i) why has no action been taken to apprehend the Red Shirt killers of peaceful protesters, including children; and (ii) why is Jatuporn still walking free, despite having breached his bail conditions on so many occasions. I think that the act of speaking out against the Army Chief would fit nicely into his bail conditions.

[RockyBeerbelly]

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So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

What breakthrough are you talking about? Do you mean that a breakthrough is a meeting in which a self proclaimed acting-caretaker-proxy PM, with absolutely no legal status, tries to force his (or actually his supreme masters') demands on the EC? Moving forward can only be done if all parties are heard, but that form of democracy is something you and your UDD buddies will never accept. Afterall, an open dialogue significantly reduces the opportunity to manipulate voters with red lies....

[tezzainoz]

A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

Answer

How many people where killed or wounded during this action ?

[tezzainoz]

A good question!

Why allow a mob access and just stand by and do nothing why they derail any talks of going forward?

And a no comment to boot.

Very suss!

A couple of better questions would be: (i) why has no action been taken to apprehend the Red Shirt killers of peaceful protesters, including children; and (ii) why is Jatuporn still walking free, despite having breached his bail conditions on so many occasions. I think that the act of speaking out against the Army Chief would fit nicely into his bail conditions.

Does the saying

putting fuel on a burning fire come to mind

Gen Prayuth sait the army has been very careful of its actions becuse of the political situation, but things have now come to a head and he warned that those who speak ill of the army should be very carefull of your comments, as they will be seens as an insult to the military’s dignity and will be found to be unacceptable

so he is deffinatly trying to cause trouble

[love1012]

So I see once again as in most threads the yellows only form of defense is attack!

Nothing about sutep and his mob derailing any move to go forward just the same old rhetoric and an absolute fascination with thaksin.

So you yellows blindly support sutep and he and his thugs never do any thing wrong they are the salt of the earth.

You guys should be condemning these thugs for not even allowing some breakthrough to happen and trying to go forward.

Maybe that's what you want.

Yawn! Well done stutter - 2 garbage posts in one morning!!............................the only thugs we need to be condemning are the ones that kill 28 innocent people who are protesting democratically against a dictatorship trying to reinstate itself. Why do they kill like rabid red dogs?? to serrve their rancid master in Dubai and fill his overstuffed pockets further!!! EEEEW!!!!