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What the Immigration Officer at border post can see in his computer system ?

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Well, when a foreigner giving his passport to the border point ( eg; Suvarnabhumi, or Aranyaprathet ) what the Officer can see at the computer when scanning the passport of the foreigner ?

1. Only the last travelling with the present passport who the foreigner show,

2. or did the Officer can also see previous entry/exit with a other / previous passport ?

They can find your full history by doing a name search. Getting a new passport or having 2 passports will not help at all.

They can find your full history by doing a name search. Getting a new passport or having 2 passports will not help at all.

Name and DOB, pretty easy search, and at the airports at least, they have picture of your smiling face...biggrin.png

Wouldn't be very hard to confirm, even using a new or two passports, that its the same person.

ok; IF you hold dual passports from 2 countries

will that show up?

Ie; u present your Thai passport at Thai immigration;

will there be a notation saying you also hold a US passport?

If you entered the country on any other passport they would be able to see that entry based upon your name.

If you have a Thai passport they would only know about the other one if you used it to enter the country.

Everything!!

When they stopped me last month at Suvarnabhumi airport they printed out -at their office downstair- a listing of ten history of ins & outs.

This was even including a lost passport and a stamp transfer back to 2007...

Here is the story

If you entered the country on any other passport they would be able to see that entry based upon your name.

If you have a Thai passport they would only know about the other one if you used it to enter the country.

True. However, would it come up automatically or not without doing a search? I think once at the Bavet border in Cambodia, coming over from Vietnam I noticed that the immigration computer had linked my Swiss and Australian passports together somehow, but generally the border authorities don't care.

I think they still go by the old-fashioned flick through to determine how many times you have entered the country. Sure, it wouldn't be difficult to record this information or use their computers to find this out, but in most cases, flicking through a traveler's passport is what they do.

I not sure how it works exactly but it could be automatic. Just your name with a cross reference to your date of birth would be all it would take.

I don't remember them going through my passport for much more than finding my most recent visa or an empty spot for the stamp.

Of course they could of also been looking for the previous entry and departure stamps that they saw on their screen to put the new one next to.

I would have thought that every Immigration Officer anywhere on this great planet of ours could view details of every country you've been to and when during the lifetime of your current passport at least, when swiping the photopage through a scanner.

They can find your full history by doing a name search. Getting a new passport or having 2 passports will not help at all.

Name changes they dont..

Also when carrying 2 passports I dont think they do also, at least back when the old 90 in 180 days was in effect they couldnt calc between 2 passports then, tested for a fact by many people.

Everything!!

When they stopped me last month at Suvarnabhumi airport they printed out -at their office downstair- a listing of ten history of ins & outs.

This was even including a lost passport and a stamp transfer back to 2007...

Here is the story

I read your post on the other thread, but could you kindly explain your history of 10 ins and outs. Do you mean to say you did 10 back-to-back ins and outs in a row? Did you spend 30 (or close to 30, perhaps 28 or 29 days) and then crossed a land border, came back and received another 15 or 30 days up to 9 more times? If you give us your exact movements, it will help us to get a better picture of what happened. In the end it sounds like you were let in after all, but it must have been a scary experience nonetheless.

There is a lot speculation going on about whether say oil and gas workers, who come every other month for a couple of weeks will be let in or not, especially after mid-August. Probably they will be, but we need more reports of travel movements of members that have been questioned to try to get a more accurate picture of what exactly immigration is targeting.

I would have thought that every Immigration Officer anywhere on this great planet of ours could view details of every country you've been to and when during the lifetime of your current passport at least, when swiping the photopage through a scanner.

That is not possible. There would have to be a worldwide data base for that to happen. All that swiping your passport gives them is the same info that is written on the photo page. Bio metric passports give them the photo and perhaps your fingerprints (depends upon your country) as well.

Everything!!

When they stopped me last month at Suvarnabhumi airport they printed out -at their office downstair- a listing of ten history of ins & outs.

This was even including a lost passport and a stamp transfer back to 2007...

Here is the story

I read your post on the other thread, but could you kindly explain your history of 10 ins and outs. Do you mean to say you did 10 back-to-back ins and outs in a row? Did you spend 30 (or close to 30, perhaps 28 or 29 days) and then crossed a land border, came back and received another 15 or 30 days up to 9 more times? If you give us your exact movements, it will help us to get a better picture of what happened. In the end it sounds like you were let in after all, but it must have been a scary experience nonetheless.

There is a lot speculation going on about whether say oil and gas workers, who come every other month for a couple of weeks will be let in or not, especially after mid-August. Probably they will be, but we need more reports of travel movements of members that have been questioned to try to get a more accurate picture of what exactly immigration is targeting.

Oups, sorry I was meaning ten years of history...

Which is -back to 2004 within their computer- a mix of tourist visas and visa exempt stamps on arrival at the airport.

Some land border crossings but only to activate a second or triple tourist visa re-entrance ; plus a four months overstay -during the floods- at the end of 2011.

There is a lot speculation going on about whether say oil and gas workers, who come every other month for a couple of weeks will be let in or not, especially after mid-August. Probably they will be, but we need more reports of travel movements of members that have been questioned to try to get a more accurate picture of what exactly immigration is targeting.

I dont see any way in which past enforcement predicts new enforcement.

The only thing I can carry forward is the guess that based on the boss of immigration's statement, visa exempt entries will no longer be allowed to be used by those living here.

tourists with clear travel plans (hotels, trips and tours) will 'probably' get through.. What that says for those with homes here.. Thats much rougher.

They can find your full history by doing a name search. Getting a new passport or having 2 passports will not help at all.

Name changes they dont..

Facial recognition in border control database will identify you & match you against any previous passport in a different name.

They can find your full history by doing a name search. Getting a new passport or having 2 passports will not help at all.

Name changes they dont..

Facial recognition in border control database will identify you & match you against any previous passport in a different name.

I can absolutely positively tell you that isnt true..

Maybe it should.. but it doesnt work.

They're smarter than most people think!

I have 2 passport and used both and was once asked at the airport if I have 2 passports and also 2 times at poipet border on the Cambodian side. So yes they see it.

Everything!!

When they stopped me last month at Suvarnabhumi airport they printed out -at their office downstair- a listing of ten history of ins & outs.

This was even including a lost passport and a stamp transfer back to 2007...

Here is the story

I read your post on the other thread, but could you kindly explain your history of 10 ins and outs. Do you mean to say you did 10 back-to-back ins and outs in a row? Did you spend 30 (or close to 30, perhaps 28 or 29 days) and then crossed a land border, came back and received another 15 or 30 days up to 9 more times? If you give us your exact movements, it will help us to get a better picture of what happened. In the end it sounds like you were let in after all, but it must have been a scary experience nonetheless.

There is a lot speculation going on about whether say oil and gas workers, who come every other month for a couple of weeks will be let in or not, especially after mid-August. Probably they will be, but we need more reports of travel movements of members that have been questioned to try to get a more accurate picture of what exactly immigration is targeting.

Oups, sorry I was meaning ten years of history...

Which is -back to 2004 within their computer- a mix of tourist visas and visa exempt stamps on arrival at the airport.

Some land border crossings but only to activate a second or triple tourist visa re-entrance ; plus a four months overstay -during the floods- at the end of 2011.

OK I suspect the overstay was the problem here. Although it hasn't been mentioned specifically as part of this crackdown, I can imagine that overstays won't be tolerated any more like they have been in the past. I read another similar story to yours and again the person in question had an overstay (for a month in his case) incurred sometime about 2.5 years prior to his re-entry at Suvarnabhumi a week or two ago.

They can find your full history by doing a name search. Getting a new passport or having 2 passports will not help at all.

Name changes they dont..

Facial recognition in border control database will identify you & match you against any previous passport in a different name.

I can absolutely positively tell you that isnt true.. Maybe it should.. but it doesnt work.

With the implementation of ePassports, subject to the implementation of the relevant global IT standards at border control terminals, it will pick up. but sounds from your experience to date not implemented in Thailand. UK passports now do link in realtime to names changes, how this has progressed at the global level I do not know. SITA http://www.sita.aero/ who supply and support airport border control apps for many countries will be busily marketing the capabilities

Discussion will be completely different when they introduce fingerprinting as announced.

Name change, two passports, whatever.

It will always be you..

As far as fingerprinting coming in, we will wait and see if it's set up or not as this was a sure thing to be introduced a good few years ago but never got past the talking stage and what with the problems here right now what with the protesting mobs and especially the non payment if rice to the farmers, I don't see this as an urgent case for Thailand. Better to put the budget they have asked for for this fingerprint scanning to pay the farmers, at least that will be one thing out of the way and going towards helping Thailand and the thai people get ahead a bit more.

On the OP's original question concerning what they can see when they run your passport, simple answer is, it depends how thorough they want to be. If you see your pp being simply run through the scanner, it's just reading and inputting data from the photo/information page, if you see it being place on a metal plate which looks like a digital scales, they are also checking the passport on the Interpol lost/stolen passports database.

They can find your full history by doing a name search. Getting a new passport or having 2 passports will not help at all.

Name changes they dont..

Also when carrying 2 passports I dont think they do also, at least back when the old 90 in 180 days was in effect they couldnt calc between 2 passports then, tested for a fact by many people.

I've never had any problems, or heard of any dual nationals having any problems when switching passports though in theory, travel movements could be linked to several passports held under the same name/DOB. For example, spend 3 months on a tourist visa (2 months + 1 month extension) in Thailand, go back to work in China or wherever for say 3-4 months, then come back to Thailand on a different passport for 2 weeks. Repeat similar sort of travel over the course of the next few years, but not necessarily staying in Thailand as long as the first time. I've done that sort of travel over the years and never had any issues. I have also lived and worked in Thailand on non-Bs too, but none of them have ever been consecutive.

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