Farangs not yet made the grade to expats status.

[ScotBkk]

Dear all,

In between ALL the controversy relating to out-in” visa runs and the recent Coup. It seems to me that the Thaivisa expat hardliners, seem to have taken on some kind of (holier than thou) approach on resident Farangs. Especially, those who dare voice any credible opinion, having no compassion or consideration no matter what their views or thoughts are. By no means, am I referring to all and sundry in the higher echelons of Thaivisa blog control although’ some have become somewhat adrift from reality.

Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians.
With ALL due respect, the Thai situation is not our concern, since we are basically aliens and by far, from the feedback or should say backlash from some ‘petulant people with toxic views, don’t wish to reference them in any shape form or fashion as intelligent life forms. Also, would like to mention. I’m not trying to act as the devil’s advocate for us poor frowned upon members, however it needs be said’ I believe some of these individuals should loosen up and not be so hasty with scathing and vile retorts or act so quickly to pounce upon anyone as if their life depended on it. There is much more to life than just responding to blogs, thus trying to impress these virtual avid readers on how they themselves personally think or having the absolute given right’ to denounce anyone. This, because they’ve spent a lot of their spare time replying to topics. One doesn’t gain any brownie points in the real world with such innuendo nor does it install fear in one’s daily grind for survival. I strongly suspect no blog controllers are paid for these duties therefore done on some voluntary basis.

Things over time have changed.
Years ago, I found these blogs somewhat amusing. Nevertheless, now it seems to me that there are far too many people who think they’re immensely superior to others. They somehow have increased their use of inane bragging rights, this depending on the number of posts or however the system works for them to gain their promotional status. It beggars belief that any person or persons living in this day and age of computer-generated literature, can’t even enjoy one another’s stories and offer a helping hand other than have scorn poured on anyone they think inferior or try to undermine their role-play.

I don’t want to hamper on about this although think it’s time everyone came to terms with this topic. It would definitely benefit any new visitors, particularly if we all went out our way to assist a fellow citizen in distress albeit in a friendlier manner.

Freedom of speech.
I’m now awaiting my repercussions and criticism for daring to stand out of line of the usual 'let’s say’ subservient attitude members, who’ve shown once attacked’ stand timidly quiet amongst the rest of the sheep for speaking their mind.

Anyway, said my piece and thank you for listening.

This post has been written with neither prejudice nor malice intended.

Edited May 25, 2014 by ScotBkk

[Pralaad]

Forgive my ignorance and holier than thou approach, but why on earth would you think you would be entitled to live in a foreign country without a visa? and use all loopholes possible to avoid a fee for visa?

Can understand those for short few months to 1 year holiday, but there is absolutely no excuse for those living in Thailand full time

Yes it was a cosy loophole that now has been closed, and you want me to feel compassion for you? I pay for my visa yearly and i jump through all the hoops, why should not you?

[samran]

Ummm, okay...

[ScotBkk]

Forgive my ignorance and holier than thou approach, but why on earth would you think you would be entitled to live in a foreign country without a visa? and use all loopholes possible to avoid a fee for visa?

Can understand those for short few months to 1 year holiday, but there is absolutely no excuse for those living in Thailand full time

Yes it was a cosy loophole that now has been closed, and you want me to feel compassion for you? I pay for my visa yearly and i jump through all the hoops, why should not you?

Pray tell me how you in your superior address assume I am in the 30day visa bracket my kind fellow, Amazing how you reached this conclusion so quickly and basically you've just helped support my public address to my Post. I'm a professional person and don't take kindly to your assumptions which are really just impudent total verbiage rubbish !!!!

I plainly suggest you get your facts right before you spout out your accusations.

[Pralaad]

Forgive my ignorance and holier than thou approach, but why on earth would you think you would be entitled to live in a foreign country without a visa? and use all loopholes possible to avoid a fee for visa?

Can understand those for short few months to 1 year holiday, but there is absolutely no excuse for those living in Thailand full time

Yes it was a cosy loophole that now has been closed, and you want me to feel compassion for you? I pay for my visa yearly and i jump through all the hoops, why should not you?

Pray tell me how you in your superior address assume I am in the 30day visa bracket my kind fellow, Amazing how you reached this conclusion so quickly and basically you've just helped support my public address to my Post. I'm a professional person and don't take kindly to your assumptions which are really just impudent total verbiage rubbish !!!!

I plainly suggest you get your facts right before you spout out your accusations.

If you not in the 30 day visa bracket, then you have nothing to worry or complain about.

By the way, if you going to complain i suggest you get YOUR facts right.

There is NO 30 day visa, There is 30 day visa exempt stamp.

[ScotBkk]

Forgive my ignorance and holier than thou approach, but why on earth would you think you would be entitled to live in a foreign country without a visa? and use all loopholes possible to avoid a fee for visa?

Can understand those for short few months to 1 year holiday, but there is absolutely no excuse for those living in Thailand full time

Yes it was a cosy loophole that now has been closed, and you want me to feel compassion for you? I pay for my visa yearly and i jump through all the hoops, why should not you?

Pray tell me how you in your superior address assume I am in the 30day visa bracket my kind fellow, Amazing how you reached this conclusion so quickly and basically you've just helped support my public address to my Post. I'm a professional person and don't take kindly to your assumptions which are really just impudent total verbiage rubbish !!!!

I plainly suggest you get your facts right before you spout out your accusations.

If you not in the 30 day visa bracket, then you have nothing to worry or complain about.

By the way, if you going to complain i suggest you get YOUR facts right.

There is NO 30 day visa, There is 30 day visa exempt stamp.

Okay, 30 day visa exempt stamp.

Is that Better ?

[Pralaad]

Forgive my ignorance and holier than thou approach, but why on earth would you think you would be entitled to live in a foreign country without a visa? and use all loopholes possible to avoid a fee for visa?

Can understand those for short few months to 1 year holiday, but there is absolutely no excuse for those living in Thailand full time

Yes it was a cosy loophole that now has been closed, and you want me to feel compassion for you? I pay for my visa yearly and i jump through all the hoops, why should not you?

Pray tell me how you in your superior address assume I am in the 30day visa bracket my kind fellow, Amazing how you reached this conclusion so quickly and basically you've just helped support my public address to my Post. I'm a professional person and don't take kindly to your assumptions which are really just impudent total verbiage rubbish !!!!

I plainly suggest you get your facts right before you spout out your accusations.

If you not in the 30 day visa bracket, then you have nothing to worry or complain about.

By the way, if you going to complain i suggest you get YOUR facts right.

There is NO 30 day visa, There is 30 day visa exempt stamp.

Okay, 30 day visa exempt stamp.

Is that Better ?

Much better, at least now you actually know what you have and what you do not have. so when you whine about something you actually know what you whining about

[Jay1]

I remember chatting with a guy who I had the misfortune to work with..He had been in Thailand for years and years. I mentioned that at the weekend I was going to Khaosan Road. He looked at me in disdain and said "Khaosaon Road? It's just full of backpackers"

He beleived that he was now superior to those people. What a <deleted>.

[Pralaad]

I remember chatting with a guy who I had the misfortune to work with..He had been in Thailand for years and years. I mentioned that at the weekend I was going to Khaosan Road. He looked at me in disdain and said "Khaosaon Road? It's just full of backpackers"

He beleived that he was now superior to those people. What a <deleted>.

You mean he was more intelligent NOT to hang around cheap charlies drinking silly and making fools out of themselves? Yeah you right, he was way out of order

[peterb17]

Unfortunately as Scotland gains its independence ( which it might) , the inhabitants will no longer be a member of a G7 country - so 15 days max.

Otherwise really did not have a clue as to what you were on about.

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

[ScotBkk]

Unfortunately as Scotland gains its independence ( which it might) , the inhabitants will no longer be a member of a G7 country - so 15 days max.

Otherwise really did not have a clue as to what you were on about.

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

It amazes me how people deflect from the original post and casually drift into other outer spheres. Invariably it predisposes one’s basic understanding of why we even bother to try to get any intelligent answers to what seems to me a pretty informative blog which nobody as yet seems to have grasped the main reason for me questioning peoples in depth values towards others, thus for these entities who submit different topics. But now clearly realise, it just takes one drifter for the rest to follow his due course to utter some strange rants that have nothing to do with the real discussion.

If you don’t understand my topic (and don't have a clue) please don’t even bother to make any hideous replies!!!

Incidentally, what has Scotland's independence got to do with it?

[Soutpeel]

I remember chatting with a guy who I had the misfortune to work with..He had been in Thailand for years and years. I mentioned that at the weekend I was going to Khaosan Road. He looked at me in disdain and said "Khaosaon Road? It's just full of backpackers"

He beleived that he was now superior to those people. What a <deleted>.

I have had "English teachers" act all "superior" to me and even instructed me into how to be Thaier than Thai, thinking I was a tourist, but much hilarity was had when I enquired how long they had been in Thailand and they said 12 months and when they enquired as when I had arrived to commence my time as a two week millionaire in Thailand, I said 12 years ago, I work here for a MNC, and please go away you spotty little git...

Edited May 25, 2014 by Soutpeel

[YipYipYa123]

Unfortunately as Scotland gains its independence ( which it might) , the inhabitants will no longer be a member of a G7 country - so 15 days max.

Otherwise really did not have a clue as to what you were on about.

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

Incidentally, what has Scotland's independence got to do with it?

i think everyone will agree the last thing thailand needs is more scots ...........

[Soutpeel]

Unfortunately as Scotland gains its independence ( which it might) , the inhabitants will no longer be a member of a G7 country - so 15 days max.

Otherwise really did not have a clue as to what you were on about.

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

It amazes me how people deflect from the original post and casually drift into other outer spheres. Invariably it predisposes one’s basic understanding of why we even bother to try to get any intelligent answers to what seems to me a pretty informative blog which nobody as yet seems to have grasped the main reason for me questioning peoples in depth values towards others, thus for these entities who submit different topics. But now clearly realise, it just takes one drifter for the rest to follow his due course to utter some strange rants that have nothing to do with the real discussion.

If you don’t understand my topic (and don't have a clue) please don’t even bother to make any hideous replies!!!

Incidentally, what has Scotland's independence got to do with it?

Of course Scott, it does beg the question with reference to the your OP....what is the point your trying to make...or is this piece an assignment for your journalism class ?

If your looking for marks out of 10, I would give you a 5, seems you cant get to the point, your coming over as trying to sound intellectual but in fact you are patronizing people, but at least you spelt everything correctly

As regards to your second last sentence....Wannabe Mod perhaps ?, you have posted on an open forum, you cannot dictate who does and doesn't respond

[AYJAYDEE]

Youre complaining about TV posters having a holier than thou attitude by expressing yourself wit a holier than thou attitude? hmmmmmmmmmmm

[mesquite]

Forgive my ignorance and holier than thou approach, but why on earth would you think you would be entitled to live in a foreign country without a visa? and use all loopholes possible to avoid a fee for visa?

Can understand those for short few months to 1 year holiday, but there is absolutely no excuse for those living in Thailand full time

Yes it was a cosy loophole that now has been closed, and you want me to feel compassion for you? I pay for my visa yearly and i jump through all the hoops, why should not you?

Pray tell me how you in your superior address assume I am in the 30day visa bracket my kind fellow, Amazing how you reached this conclusion so quickly and basically you've just helped support my public address to my Post. I'm a professional person and don't take kindly to your assumptions which are really just impudent total verbiage rubbish !!!!

I plainly suggest you get your facts right before you spout out your accusations.

I hope you aren't teaching English.

[bkkjames]

If it makes the OP feel better, I was an a - hole as well prior to becoming an expat.

[iancnx]

OP 43 posts..... Hahaha.

I think you are thoroughly mistaken old chap.

[ScotBkk]

If it makes the OP feel better, I was an a - hole as well prior to becoming an expat.

Speaking like that' you probably still are my friend. I've been in Thailand for over 10 years now - satisfied !!

I don't have time to sit about on my posterior all day writing comments dispersed into the unknown in cyberspace. I'm not an English Teacher either being over qualified to teach in this particular field that requires no intellectual know how (for some) or so it seems - to beget a job in Asia. I do wholly respect this institution nonetheless' suggest that some people have somehow managed to infiltrate the educational system teaching pupils nothing that would help them in the foreseeable future.

Please have a relaxing day off from cyber bullying. Please understand this is one of my main reasons for my original post. Although, did fully expect this onslaught from the usual antagonistic party poopers who seem to know everything in the ways of the world being incapable of harmonious association. If I'm not wrong, I'll surely read later some more appropriate posts by 'considerate bloggers' who will defend my actions in due course throughout the day. I'm not your opposition pent on resistance for anyone who has something decent to say,merrily just asking for fair play for all. Does that make me a bad person?i

If you can't reply with some diplomacy - please do not continue with any conversational exchange that preludes audaciousness.

[CharlieH]

OP Reminds me of a politician, speaks an awful lot but actually says nothing of real value or interest.

Edited May 26, 2014 by CharlieH

[tonytigerbkk]

If it makes the OP feel better, I was an a - hole as well prior to becoming an expat.

Speaking like that' you probably still are my friend. I've been in Thailand for over 10 years now - satisfied !!

I don't have time to sit about on my posterior all day writing comments dispersed into the unknown in cyberspace. I'm not an English Teacher either being over qualified to teach in this particular field that requires no intellectual know how (for some) or so it seems - to beget a job in Asia. I do wholly respect this institution nonetheless' suggest that some people have somehow managed to infiltrate the educational system teaching pupils nothing that would help them in the foreseeable future.

Please have a relaxing day off from cyber bullying. Please understand this is one of my main reasons for my original post. Although, did fully expect this onslaught from the usual antagonistic party poopers who seem to know everything in the ways of the world being incapable of harmonious association. If I'm not wrong, I'll surely read later some more appropriate posts by 'considerate bloggers' who will defend my actions in due course throughout the day. I'm not your opposition pent on resistance for anyone who has something decent to say,merrily just asking for fair play for all. Does that make me a bad person?i

If you can't reply with some diplomacy - please do not continue with any conversational exchange that preludes audaciousness.

now it seems to me that there are far too many people who think they’re immensely superior to others (from your original post).

[Ulysses G.]

OP Reminds me of a politician, speaks an awful lot but actually says nothing of real value or interest.

And in a very pretentious manner.

Edited May 26, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[ScotBkk]

If it makes the OP feel better, I was an a - hole as well prior to becoming an expat.

Speaking like that' you probably still are my friend. I've been in Thailand for over 10 years now - satisfied !!

I don't have time to sit about on my posterior all day writing comments dispersed into the unknown in cyberspace. I'm not an English Teacher either being over qualified to teach in this particular field that requires no intellectual know how (for some) or so it seems - to beget a job in Asia. I do wholly respect this institution nonetheless' suggest that some people have somehow managed to infiltrate the educational system teaching pupils nothing that would help them in the foreseeable future.

Please have a relaxing day off from cyber bullying. Please understand this is one of my main reasons for my original post. Although, did fully expect this onslaught from the usual antagonistic party poopers who seem to know everything in the ways of the world being incapable of harmonious association. If I'm not wrong, I'll surely read later some more appropriate posts by 'considerate bloggers' who will defend my actions in due course throughout the day. I'm not your opposition pent on resistance for anyone who has something decent to say,merrily just asking for fair play for all. Does that make me a bad person?i

If you can't reply with some diplomacy - please do not continue with any conversational exchange that preludes audaciousness.

now it seems to me that there are far too many people who think they’re immensely superior to others (from your original post).

No double standards my friend' just trying to get my message across albeit in a flash in the pan statement or an attempt at trying to catagorise that any idiot can trick the system !!

[WitawatWatawit]

My, my. I feel well and truly put in my place. I shall no longer post, "As someone who's been here for 25 years ..." Thank you OP for making me see the light.

[tonytigerbkk]

If it makes the OP feel better, I was an a - hole as well prior to becoming an expat.

Speaking like that' you probably still are my friend. I've been in Thailand for over 10 years now - satisfied !!

I don't have time to sit about on my posterior all day writing comments dispersed into the unknown in cyberspace. I'm not an English Teacher either being over qualified to teach in this particular field that requires no intellectual know how (for some) or so it seems - to beget a job in Asia. I do wholly respect this institution nonetheless' suggest that some people have somehow managed to infiltrate the educational system teaching pupils nothing that would help them in the foreseeable future.

Please have a relaxing day off from cyber bullying. Please understand this is one of my main reasons for my original post. Although, did fully expect this onslaught from the usual antagonistic party poopers who seem to know everything in the ways of the world being incapable of harmonious association. If I'm not wrong, I'll surely read later some more appropriate posts by 'considerate bloggers' who will defend my actions in due course throughout the day. I'm not your opposition pent on resistance for anyone who has something decent to say,merrily just asking for fair play for all. Does that make me a bad person?i

If you can't reply with some diplomacy - please do not continue with any conversational exchange that preludes audaciousness.

now it seems to me that there are far too many people who think they’re immensely superior to others (from your original post).

No double standards my friend' just trying to get my message across albeit in a flash in the pan statement or an attempt at trying to catagorise that any idiot can trick the system !!

Point proven.

[tonytigerbkk]

My, my. I feel well and truly put in my place. I shall no longer post, "As someone who's been here for 25 years ..." Thank you OP for making me see the light.

The problem is that you now have people who have been here for 30 minutes who think that they know all there is to know about Thailand, Thais and expats.

I have only been living here since 1998, so I have not been here as long as yourself and as such I still have a lot to learn before I am as versed in Thai daily life as yourself.

As I still do not fully understand all aspects of Thai culture, Thais and the expats, I will never come on here trying to self promote myself by telling everyone why my views are correct and everyone elses views are wrong.

The newbies that are posting these (trash) posts just do not understand this.

[ScotBkk]

OP Reminds me of a politician, speaks an awful lot but actually says nothing of real value or interest.

Charlie, nice to see someone has a good sense of humour - lol !!

[ScotBkk]

My, my. I feel well and truly put in my place. I shall no longer post, "As someone who's been here for 25 years ..." Thank you OP for making me see the light.

The problem is that you now have people who have been here for 30 minutes who think that they know all there is to know about Thailand, Thais and expats.

I have only been living here since 1998, so I have not been here as long as yourself and as such I still have a lot to learn before I am as versed in Thai daily life as yourself.

As I still do not fully understand all aspects of Thai culture, Thais and the expats, I will never come on here trying to self promote myself by telling everyone why my views are correct and everyone elses views are wrong.

The newbies that are posting these (trash) posts just do not understand this.

Please forgive me. It seems to me that I may have not expressed my views to suit everyone. However, its a starting point and has given some tv members a different subject to express their thoughts on what seems to be the norm now - to be hammered online by bloggers from all walks of life. I sincerely agree, that these newbies have a lot to learn about manners. However, he who allows himself to be insulted deserves to be so; and insolence, if unpunished, increases!!

[tonytigerbkk]

How I wish for a better class of idiot.

[tonytigerbkk]

My, my. I feel well and truly put in my place. I shall no longer post, "As someone who's been here for 25 years ..." Thank you OP for making me see the light.

The problem is that you now have people who have been here for 30 minutes who think that they know all there is to know about Thailand, Thais and expats.

I have only been living here since 1998, so I have not been here as long as yourself and as such I still have a lot to learn before I am as versed in Thai daily life as yourself.

As I still do not fully understand all aspects of Thai culture, Thais and the expats, I will never come on here trying to self promote myself by telling everyone why my views are correct and everyone elses views are wrong.

The newbies that are posting these (trash) posts just do not understand this.

Please forgive me. It seems to me that I may have not expressed my views to suit everyone. However, its a starting point and has given some tv members a different subject to express their thoughts on what seems to be the norm now - to be hammered online by bloggers from all walks of life. I sincerely agree, that these newbies have a lot to learn about manners. However, he who allows himself to be insulted deserves to be so; and insolence, if unpunished, increases!!

You have not expressed any views, you have babbled on and constantly contradicted yourself.

You have tried to show everyone that you think that you are far superior than others by slagging off people that you think act as though they are far superior.

You have managed to demonstrate to all TV members of how a pompous &lt;deleted&gt; handles himself.

Oh, and this is a forum and not a blog.