Is the 64gb version of the Samsung Note Pro 12.2 available here in LOS?

[luwahn]

Is the 64gb version of the Samsung Note Pro 12.2 readily available anywhere in LOS?

Has anyone seen it stocked on the shelves in computer shops here?

[DogNo1]

Haven't seen it. I've got the 32 GB version. Why not try Lazada or Phantip. Perhaps they could order it for you. I'm finding some bugs in the machine - I can't always get the onscreen keyboard to deploy.

[luwahn]

Haven't seen it. I've got the 32 GB version. Why not try Lazada or Phantip. Perhaps they could order it for you. I'm finding some bugs in the machine - I can't always get the onscreen keyboard to deploy.

Thanks! Tomorrow, I will be asking vendors if they can order the 64 GB version of the Note Pro 12.2. Failing that, I will look into ordering from eBay and hope it ships here w/o problem if I go this route.

Sorry to hear about your keyboard problem .... what is your overall impression about this tablet and what tablet would have been your 2nd choice? What do you use your Note Pro 12.2 for and what case and stand do you have for this tablet?

Edited June 13, 2014 by luwahn

[DogNo1]

Hi. I have a logitech case/keyboard and a Microsoft Sculpt Bluetooth Mouse, all of which seem to work fine with the tablet. My second choice, which I actually bought, is the Sony VAIO Tap 11. The Sony works very well for its CPU which is a Pentium 3650Y. It's plenty speedy, has a beautiful screen and a fantastic built-in speaker. The tablet is thin and light and I'm amazed at its volume and clarity of sound and I listen to the Minnesota Public Radio classical stream constantly so I'm picky about sound quality. I use the tablet primarily for reading books and newspapers in bed, watching YouTube videos in bed and also reading email and blogs and replying to them. I use the VAIO at my desk and it's become a pretty versatile production machine for me. I like having MS Office on the Sony. I don't find the Hancom Office on the Note Pro very usable. It only saves documents to the machine and Dropbox. I'm already committed to Google Drive and One Drive and would prefer to save my documents on them. The Note Pro has become a nice little bedtime toy but the VAIO is where I get my work done. Good luck with your 64 GB if that's what you decide to buy. The Logitech keyboard/case will cost you about $100 extra.

[luwahn]

Hi. I have a logitech case/keyboard and a Microsoft Sculpt Bluetooth Mouse, all of which seem to work fine with the tablet. My second choice, which I actually bought, is the Sony VAIO Tap 11. The Sony works very well for its CPU which is a Pentium 3650Y. It's plenty speedy, has a beautiful screen and a fantastic built-in speaker. The tablet is thin and light and I'm amazed at its volume and clarity of sound and I listen to the Minnesota Public Radio classical stream constantly so I'm picky about sound quality. I use the tablet primarily for reading books and newspapers in bed, watching YouTube videos in bed and also reading email and blogs and replying to them. I use the VAIO at my desk and it's become a pretty versatile production machine for me. I like having MS Office on the Sony. I don't find the Hancom Office on the Note Pro very usable. It only saves documents to the machine and Dropbox. I'm already committed to Google Drive and One Drive and would prefer to save my documents on them. The Note Pro has become a nice little bedtime toy but the VAIO is where I get my work done. Good luck with your 64 GB if that's what you decide to buy. The Logitech keyboard/case will cost you about $100 extra.

I broke down and bought a 32 GB Note Pro at Samsung store, I did not want trust the eBay-to-LOS route with this merchandise. No one could order a 64 GB model and the one I bought was the last model in stock - all the 'farang' were buying them the supervisor said!!

Where did you buy your Logitech keyboard (and case?)? It would be great if I could buy one here and not have to buy it on eBay. Do you think there is a difference between the Logitech and the Samsung keyboards?

[DogNo1]

Hi,

So far as I know, the Samsung Bluetooth keyboard is just a keyboard but the Logitech is a keyboard and case combined. It's something like the combined cases and keyboards that you see for sale with the knockoff tablets that they sell in Phantip, only much better quality. The nice thing about the Logitech keyboard is that it has an on-off switch that you can use to turn the keyboard off when you prefer to use the onscreen keyboard. I bought mine here in Tokyo where I spend half the year, only returning to Bangkok when it gets cold here. They might get the keyboard in Thailand eventually but they don't have it yet.

Hope that you enjoy your Note Pro. It sure is easier to type on than the ten-inchers!

[luwahn]

Hi,

So far as I know, the Samsung Bluetooth keyboard is just a keyboard but the Logitech is a keyboard and case combined. It's something like the combined cases and keyboards that you see for sale with the knockoff tablets that they sell in Phantip, only much better quality. The nice thing about the Logitech keyboard is that it has an on-off switch that you can use to turn the keyboard off when you prefer to use the onscreen keyboard. I bought mine here in Tokyo where I spend half the year, only returning to Bangkok when it gets cold here. They might get the keyboard in Thailand eventually but they don't have it yet.

Hope that you enjoy your Note Pro. It sure is easier to type on than the ten-inchers!

Now I see why you have the top notched computer components - you are there in electronic appliance heaven!

The Logitech keyboard and case will be the one for me. Besides its acclaimed quality, you reminded me of the top feature that sets it apart: That cool on/off keyboard switch!

Can you remind me what it is about Hancom Office that makes it look so lacking when compared to MS Office? Is it something about Hancom Office that restricts the potability of its files?

I am hoping they eventually allow the Note Pro to recognize NTFS disk files.

Do you know how to explain the theoretical advantage of having 64 GB of internal ram as opposed to having only 32 GB on board? I.E., in a automotive analogy, you could state: 4 cyl of power gives you 'X' but 8 cyl of power gives you 'X+'. I am looking to learn how 'computing process' power I am missing out on.

[DogNo1]

Hi,

The thing that I don't like about Hancom Office is that the only option for saving to the cloud that it offers is Dropbox, which I don't use. I use Google Drive and One Drive. Microsoft has said that it will soon make its mobile office applications available to subscribers to Office 365 with a free 25 GB of online storage. Until that arrives, I will be using the Chrome applications with their automatic save to Google Drive. An application that I use on my Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 is Office Suite 7 Pro, an Android application that is available on Google Play. I think it costs around $10 -$12 but I like it because it has a separate PDF editor built in and because I can save from it to anywhere online but not, strangely to the external SD card. A limitation, I'm told of Google's Android. You can, of course, just use a file manager such as Total Commander and simply copy the file from the internal SD to the external SD, or to any online storage or flash drive connected by an OTG.

The advantage to having 64 GB of Storage rather than 32 is that you can install more programs and save more files, including videos, to your tablet. Please note though, that tablets divide their memory between the base memory area (8 GB) and what they term SD. If you put a micro SD card into the port on the tablet, it will be called external SD, or maybe SD 2, I can't remember which. When you install new programs, you will get a popup message asking if you want to move the program to SD. It's good to do that to keep your core memory freed up for the workings of the tablet. Also, 64 GB micro SD cards are available for around $30 - perhaps slightly more in Bangkok. You may not need that much storage, though. Your 64 GB on the tablet might be enough.

Another thing that I don't like about the tablet is that I've been having trouble getting the screen to return to normal size after I've zoomed it. I just read online that the volume rocker will adjust the amount of zoom and I'll try it tonight.

I hope that you are enjoying your tablet.

[luwahn]

Hi,

The thing that I don't like about Hancom Office is that the only option for saving to the cloud that it offers is Dropbox, which I don't use. I use Google Drive and One Drive. Microsoft has said that it will soon make its mobile office applications available to subscribers to Office 365 with a free 25 GB of online storage. Until that arrives, I will be using the Chrome applications with their automatic save to Google Drive. An application that I use on my Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 is Office Suite 7 Pro, an Android application that is available on Google Play. I think it costs around $10 -$12 but I like it because it has a separate PDF editor built in and because I can save from it to anywhere online but not, strangely to the external SD card. A limitation, I'm told of Google's Android. You can, of course, just use a file manager such as Total Commander and simply copy the file from the internal SD to the external SD, or to any online storage or flash drive connected by an OTG.

The advantage to having 64 GB of Storage rather than 32 is that you can install more programs and save more files, including videos, to your tablet. Please note though, that tablets divide their memory between the base memory area (8 GB) and what they term SD. If you put a micro SD card into the port on the tablet, it will be called external SD, or maybe SD 2, I can't remember which. When you install new programs, you will get a popup message asking if you want to move the program to SD. It's good to do that to keep your core memory freed up for the workings of the tablet. Also, 64 GB micro SD cards are available for around $30 - perhaps slightly more in Bangkok. You may not need that much storage, though. Your 64 GB on the tablet might be enough.

Another thing that I don't like about the tablet is that I've been having trouble getting the screen to return to normal size after I've zoomed it. I just read online that the volume rocker will adjust the amount of zoom and I'll try it tonight.

I hope that you are enjoying your tablet.

Thanks for the comparisons of storage capabilities between a 32 GB SD card and a 64 GB SD card!

I ended up buying a 32 GB Note Pro like yours. Can you list any similar comparisons that illustrates the advantages in computing ability of tablet models with 64 GB of internal memory compared to tablet models having only 32 GB internal memory? In what ways would the difference in the two amounts of internal memory be noticeable?

Also, I have noticed the Google Earth program does not function properly(?) while running on our Note Pro 12.2! The program does not display GPS coordinates nor the usual on-screen visual map navigation (zoom and direction, etc.) controls as it does on laptops and desk station computers. I was wondering if you have experienced this problem, also, and if not, do you have any recommendations?

Edited June 24, 2014 by luwahn

[DogNo1]

Hi,

I'll check out the Google Earth anomaly. I haven't noticed it yet. To answer your question about the computing ability of the 64 GB version of the Note Pro vs the 32 GB version, there is none. The working memory of both tablets is 8 GB. The remainder of the memory (24 GB on the 32 GB version) is used for installing programs and files. It is called SD 1. If you install A LOT of music, video and games, you may want to put a 64 GB micro-SD in the machine so you can store them there and keep your first SD card (the 24 GB internal) for programs and such. 24+64 = 88 GB and that is a lot of space to fill up. You may find the 32 GB in your machine to be quite adequate. I suggest that when you install additional applications, if the machine offers to move the program to the SD card, do so. That will leave you lots of working memory for your machine's processors to use. Have fun with your new baby!

[luwahn]

Hi,

I'll check out the Google Earth anomaly. I haven't noticed it yet. To answer your question about the computing ability of the 64 GB version of the Note Pro vs the 32 GB version, there is none. The working memory of both tablets is 8 GB. The remainder of the memory (24 GB on the 32 GB version) is used for installing programs and files. It is called SD 1. If you install A LOT of music, video and games, you may want to put a 64 GB micro-SD in the machine so you can store them there and keep your first SD card (the 24 GB internal) for programs and such. 24+64 = 88 GB and that is a lot of space to fill up. You may find the 32 GB in your machine to be quite adequate. I suggest that when you install additional applications, if the machine offers to move the program to the SD card, do so. That will leave you lots of working memory for your machine's processors to use. Have fun with your new baby!

Thanks again!

I really like this tablet! I could not imagine having anything smaller! Since my objective is to have the most computing power as possible, it is good to know that both the 32 GB and the 64 GB models of the Note Pro allocate the same 8 GB to working memory and that the remaining internal GB is used for SD(1) application storage! But wait!!! Re-reading your, "....that will leave you lots of working memory for your machine's processors to use.", doesn't that mean that the machine's processors will recognize and use its unused SD 1 space as additional working memory, thus 'Advantage 64 GB' or does the computer's processors only use the allocated 8 GB of working memory?

Besides the S pen, I also like the fact that our Note Pro uses USB 3.0 and 802.11ac WI-FI. I am looking forward to your assessment of Google Earth - Note Pro version. Can you recommend the best Adobe Flash to use in this tablet?

Edited June 25, 2014 by luwahn

[WorriedNoodle]

Also, I have noticed the Google Earth program does not function properly(?) while running on our Note Pro 12.2! The program does not display GPS coordinates nor the usual on-screen visual map navigation (zoom and direction, etc.) controls as it does on laptops and desk station computers. I was wondering if you have experienced this problem, also, and if not, do you have any recommendations?

Might this be because your tablet is running Android unlike "laptops and desk station computers" so that the features of Google Earth will not be anywhere near the same as it is a different program? For Android try the free Google Navigation feature that will get you from A to B on a map. If you must have coordinates (no one needs them for navigation) try another free Android app called GPS status.

[luwahn]

Also, I have noticed the Google Earth program does not function properly(?) while running on our Note Pro 12.2! The program does not display GPS coordinates nor the usual on-screen visual map navigation (zoom and direction, etc.) controls as it does on laptops and desk station computers. I was wondering if you have experienced this problem, also, and if not, do you have any recommendations?

Might this be because your tablet is running Android unlike "laptops and desk station computers" so that the features of Google Earth will not be anywhere near the same as it is a different program? For Android try the free Google Navigation feature that will get you from A to B on a map. If you must have coordinates (no one needs them for navigation) try another free Android app called GPS status.

Thanks .... It does looks like it is an Android 'thang but I found an app that displays the GPS coordinates of any random point like the original non-Android Google Earth program does. It is called Map Coordinates. And yes, there are those that still use GPS coordinate points to navigate from one area to another especially in some non-English and lesser developed countries. Once I know the GPS coordinates of my destination, I enter them into my vehicle's on-board Garmin and I am on my way!

GPS coordinates are the world traveler's universal language.

[DogNo1]

Sorry, but I'm not sure of how Android works with memory or exactly how much of the OS is stored in ROM. I believe that the Note Pro uses 8 GB of its memory for working files and programs. Since memory over 8 GB is identified as "SD" and the Micro-SD card as "external SD," the actual working memory must be confined within that 8 GB space. No doubt when you move programs to the SD card, some marker must be left within the 8 GB core pointing to where the program is located and the space vacated must be freed up for working files. Although I know that windows uses a page file to store markers, temporary files, etc., I'm not sure about Android. I'll have to read up on it.

[luwahn]

Sorry, but I'm not sure of how Android works with memory or exactly how much of the OS is stored in ROM. I believe that the Note Pro uses 8 GB of its memory for working files and programs. Since memory over 8 GB is identified as "SD" and the Micro-SD card as "external SD," the actual working memory must be confined within that 8 GB space. No doubt when you move programs to the SD card, some marker must be left within the 8 GB core pointing to where the program is located and the space vacated must be freed up for working files. Although I know that windows uses a page file to store markers, temporary files, etc., I'm not sure about Android. I'll have to read up on it.

With my basic understanding of computer architecture, your breakdown looks to be most logical and probably the actual scenario. It is knowing how the Note Pro (Android OS{?}) allocates and uses its working memory that is crucial in determining any difference in computing power between the 32 GB and 64 GB models. It sure would be nice if all the working memory of the OS of both models is relegated only to the 8 GB block of internal memory.

BTW, I have learned that Google Earth (Note Pro) uses touch screen controls for its navigation. I still have not located any GPS coordinates in the program, though, but I have located a pretty good substitute 'GPS coordinates' program for my purposes, it's called, 'Map Coordinates'. It works excellent for me in conjunction with Google Maps (Note Pro) and my vehicle's on-board Garmin navigation! This is quite a nice tablet!

Have you resolved that issue with getting your onscreen keyboard to deploy? I have not encountered that at all. Have you experienced this only in certain situations or just randomly? I also forgot to mention that I, too, am an avid NPR listener. It's one of the first programs I loaded onto my new Note Pro. I like 'All Things Considered', the 'Sunday Morning Puzzle', etc. Also, Minneapollis-St. Paul happens to be one of my favorite 'US cities to reside'. As for Gov. Ventura ...... that is another discussion ....

[DogNo1]

Hi,

I got my on-screen keyboard to work by just turning off the bluetooth keyboard. I've disabled that annoying word completion feature, though. It was driving me crazy by changing so many of the words i had typed.

As you do, I listen to NPR every day. I like the talk shows too but mostly just stream classical music. In my car, I stream the music via bluetooth from my iPhone 5 to my Jabbra Freeway which then sends the music to a specific FM channel that I choose (88.9 FM.) The clarity is great.

I still haven't tried out Google Earth. I use a Garmin navigator in my car although I could use the Note Pro by tethering it to my iPhone. Maybe I'll try that soon.

BTW, I don't think that there is any difference in computing power between the Note Pro 32 & 64 versions, it's just that you get more storage with the 64.

I'm still enjoying using this tablet every evening. I'll bet that you are too!

Best regards,

Eric

[luwahn]

Hi,

I got my on-screen keyboard to work by just turning off the bluetooth keyboard. I've disabled that annoying word completion feature, though. It was driving me crazy by changing so many of the words i had typed.

As you do, I listen to NPR every day. I like the talk shows too but mostly just stream classical music. In my car, I stream the music via bluetooth from my iPhone 5 to my Jabbra Freeway which then sends the music to a specific FM channel that I choose (88.9 FM.) The clarity is great.

I still haven't tried out Google Earth. I use a Garmin navigator in my car although I could use the Note Pro by tethering it to my iPhone. Maybe I'll try that soon.

BTW, I don't think that there is any difference in computing power between the Note Pro 32 & 64 versions, it's just that you get more storage with the 64.

I'm still enjoying using this tablet every evening. I'll bet that you are too!

Best regards,

Eric

Yes! I now see that the only difference between the 32 GB and the 64 GB versions of the Note Pro is that the 64 GB model has 32 GB more internal (SD1) storage than the 32 GB model....a nice feature to have, but not critical in my case. My primary desire was buying the model with the most computing power.

Do you have a Flash program installed and working or know which is available for our Note Pro? Maybe I should use Fire Fox? I am hopeful that more and more applications, features and upgrades will become available as the popularity of this flagship model grows. Maybe someone will add GPS coordinate display to the Google Earth - Note Pro program!

This is a real cool tablet!