Popular Post webfact Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 Prayuth says NCPO will not continue rice-pledging schemeBANGKOK: -- National Council for Peace and Order Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha said Friday that the NCPO will not continue the controversial rice-pledging scheme."If you ask me now, there will be no more rice-pledging scheme," Prayuth said while chairing a budget meeting with government agencies. The meeting was broadcast live on Channel 5 and NBT."Whether it will be continued in the future is another matter. Now we have to help farmers cut cost and increase production." -- The Nation 2014-06-13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 I would hope not! The whole scam was a money pit by the Shins and their cronies. You can help the farmers but not like this. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaidam Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 It's becoming blindingly obvious that Gen P. is reading the TVF and using the expats sensible ideas and suggestions. Since the coup, he has made all our wildest dreams come true. Police reform, tracking the Shin corruption, booting out corrupt officials, transparent infrastructure planning, dismantling the cult of Thaksin red shirts, we wrote about it here, and the good general is following through with it all. Time to give ourselves a big pat on the back. I wonder what he makes of all the time-warp trollers that still haven't realized that Thaksin is gone forever? 46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crushdepth Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 Sanity prevails. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Gen Prayuth says no rice pledging or rice price guarantee schemes BANGKOK: -- The National Council for Peace and Order will definitely not adopt the Yingluck government’s rice pledging scheme or rice price guarantee scheme to help farmers but will try to improve their productivity and cut production costs. The above policy was announced by NCPO chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha to senior officials at a meeting this morning on budgeting policy.The army chief outlined budgeting policy with emphasis on transparency, little or no wastage, fiscal discipline and maintaining public debt at legal limits and quality projects.He urged all parties concerned to cooperate with the NCPO in restoring happiness to the Thai people and to give the junta a chance to prove its worth and to address the pressing problems. “We have not lived in happiness for the past nine years and since May 22 we should live happily,” he said.Citing the problem of political conflict which, he said, is so deeply entrenched, General Prayuth warned that he might stay longer in the office if the problem was not resolved.He affirmed that the provisional charter, the National Legislative Assembly and the National Reform Council would all be ready by August after which there would be an interim government in the same month or early September. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/gen-prayuth-says-rice-pledging-rice-price-guarantee-schemes/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gen-prayuth-says-rice-pledging-rice-price-guarantee-schemes -- Thai PBS 2014-06-13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 "Whether it will be continued in the future is another matter" Ask me tomorrow. MAgic 8 ball says, Reply hazy try again Ask again later Better not tell you now Cannot predict now Concentrate and ask again Now we have to help farmers cut cost and increase production So the solution to producing too much rice is to produce more? OK, that makes perfect sense, make up a loss by selling more. Obviously cutting costs is a factor but not sure how achievable that is given the current farming structure, which may take decades to readjust from "Sufficiency" to "globally competitive". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 This is good news indeed, and it will also make the farmers who unfortunately suffered through this scam, into a rethink as to how they can have a good return on their crops and minimise production costs. The world market will dictate the price they get for their product, not a Government that was so far out of touch with reality, you needed oxygen to breath !! The big cash cow has been slaughtered, and now they need to start smart thinking. No big divvies for the Millers either. I wouldn't go as far as stating that the General is reading TVF and doing everything that the forum members have desired, and wished for, don't forget that there's as many Thais who have had similar thoughts, I doubt the General has time to be surfing the internet these days, posting selfies, and clicking "like" It's a nice fantasy to believe, but I'd be more inclined to believe that he has some astute and clever Thai academics who felt "stiffled" under the Shiniwatra Regime, who were as aware of the what was needed for Thailand to prosper too Next you'll be believing that the bold "scamper" is re writing their constitution for them? has anyone seen or heard from him? He's been very inactive this past 2 weeks, I miss his non paragraphed, but educational posts. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 "Whether it will be continued in the future is another matter" Ask me tomorrow. MAgic 8 ball says, Reply hazy try again Ask again later Better not tell you now Cannot predict now Concentrate and ask again Now we have to help farmers cut cost and increase production So the solution to producing too much rice is to produce more? OK, that makes perfect sense, make up a loss by selling more. Obviously cutting costs is a factor but not sure how achievable that is given the current farming structure, which may take decades to readjust from "Sufficiency" to "globally competitive". and tour business acumen lies where?This makes perfect BUSINESS SENSE to anyone who runs more than a noodle shop or bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marcusd Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 This is good news indeed, and it will also make the farmers who unfortunately suffered through this scam, into a rethink as to how they can have a good return on their crops and minimise production costs. The world market will dictate the price they get for their product, not a Government that was so far out of touch with reality, you needed oxygen to breath !! The big cash cow has been slaughtered, and now they need to start smart thinking. No big divvies for the Millers either. I wouldn't go as far as stating that the General is reading TVF and doing everything that the forum members have desired, and wished for, don't forget that there's as many Thais who have had similar thoughts, I doubt the General has time to be surfing the internet these days, posting selfies, and clicking "like" It's a nice fantasy to believe, but I'd be more inclined to believe that he has some astute and clever Thai academics who felt "stiffled" under the Shiniwatra Regime, who were as aware of the what was needed for Thailand to prosper too Next you'll be believing that the bold "scamper" is re writing their constitution for them? has anyone seen or heard from him? He's been very inactive this past 2 weeks, I miss his non paragraphed, but educational posts. Haggis!! I am agreeing with you yet again. Where is that red streak and democracy attitude you had before.Were you one arrested for re training? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JRSoul Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 "Whether it will be continued in the future is another matter" Ask me tomorrow. MAgic 8 ball says, Reply hazy try again Ask again later Better not tell you now Cannot predict now Concentrate and ask again Now we have to help farmers cut cost and increase production So the solution to producing too much rice is to produce more? OK, that makes perfect sense, make up a loss by selling more. Obviously cutting costs is a factor but not sure how achievable that is given the current farming structure, which may take decades to readjust from "Sufficiency" to "globally competitive". Perhaps he should have said "Whether another corrupt political party will offer it as a hugely expensive vote-buying scheme is beyond my control." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) and tour business acumen lies where? You are not going to lower production costs overnight without a total re-haul of the entire rice farming 'business'. And producing more of something, at a loss, is not any way to run a business. In the short-term I might argue that it would be better to produce less, and offer incentives to growers to either not grow rice, for a season or two. Longer term, increased productivity will lead to fewer jobs, so you're going to need to create some sort of social safety net for those displaced. "Whether another corrupt political party will offer it as a hugely expensive vote-buying scheme is beyond my control." Why is it beyond his control? He claims that he will reform/transform Thailand before there are any elections, and that Thai's do not yet have the "discipline" to participate in a Democracy. When his job is done everything will be perfect, just like the last ~ 12 times. now they need to start smart thinkingSo Thai farmers need to start thinking smart? This is an incredibly simplistic view, perhaps even more simplistic than herr General might spout off. Most of the costs (seed, fertilizer, water, harvest, milling, storage, transport) are fixed per rai, there aren't a lot of variables save labor. Edited June 13, 2014 by lomatopo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thait Spot Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 I don't know how you can call this a coup. There must be a better name for replacing the bewildered with common sense 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 This is good news indeed, and it will also make the farmers who unfortunately suffered through this scam, into a rethink as to how they can have a good return on their crops and minimise production costs. The world market will dictate the price they get for their product, not a Government that was so far out of touch with reality, you needed oxygen to breath !! The big cash cow has been slaughtered, and now they need to start smart thinking. No big divvies for the Millers either. I wouldn't go as far as stating that the General is reading TVF and doing everything that the forum members have desired, and wished for, don't forget that there's as many Thais who have had similar thoughts, I doubt the General has time to be surfing the internet these days, posting selfies, and clicking "like" It's a nice fantasy to believe, but I'd be more inclined to believe that he has some astute and clever Thai academics who felt "stiffled" under the Shiniwatra Regime, who were as aware of the what was needed for Thailand to prosper too Next you'll be believing that the bold "scamper" is re writing their constitution for them? has anyone seen or heard from him? He's been very inactive this past 2 weeks, I miss his non paragraphed, but educational posts. Haggis!! I am agreeing with you yet again. Where is that red streak and democracy attitude you had before.Were you one arrested for re training? "Resistance is futile" I was more anti Suthep than pro red I do like the way this General is going about his business, and I wonder what the TVF members who lambasted me the other week when I said the General was already a politician, whether he liked it or not, and they said "rubbish" He's just a General!! ...oh really????? he looks every bit a politician right now, and a pretty good one at that!! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) "Citing the problem of political conflict which, he said, is so deeply entrenched, General Prayuth warned that he might stay longer in the office if the problem was not resolved." Heads up there for all concerned Edited June 13, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 maybe without the bullsh*t promises from the ptp farmers might just stop over working their fields and we will see a return to normal production with out the need to use way too many chemicals. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Prayuth, who at this point is looking like an incredible voice of reason, has chosen to end this corruption riddled mess that did nothing to help the farmers. As another posted noted, he must be reading TV as he is cleaning house on the issues that negatively affected Thailand for years. ........It is almost getting surreal at this point, as one sacred cow after another is being pitched aside. He clearly does not give a flying bleep about whose rice bowls are being broken. Bravo !!! Edited June 13, 2014 by EyesWideOpen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 It's becoming blindingly obvious that Gen P. is reading the TVF and using the expats sensible ideas and suggestions. Since the coup, he has made all our wildest dreams come true. Police reform, tracking the Shin corruption, booting out corrupt officials, transparent infrastructure planning, dismantling the cult of Thaksin red shirts, we wrote about it here, and the good general is following through with it all. Time to give ourselves a big pat on the back. I wonder what he makes of all the time-warp trollers that still haven't realized that Thaksin is gone forever? you've been smoking too much! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> It's becoming blindingly obvious that Gen P. is reading the TVF and using the expats sensible ideas and suggestions. Since the coup, he has made all our wildest dreams come true. Police reform, tracking the Shin corruption, booting out corrupt officials, transparent infrastructure planning, dismantling the cult of Thaksin red shirts, we wrote about it here, and the good general is following through with it all. Time to give ourselves a big pat on the back. I wonder what he makes of all the time-warp trollers that still haven't realized that Thaksin is gone forever? Maybe the good General or someone close to him , was reading TVF before the coup , that we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaPhom Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 "cut cost and increase production" Gets better by the day....the future looks bright.....Where has this guy been hiding for so long.....super hero or what 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I don't know how you can call this a coup. There must be a better name for replacing the bewildered with common sense A-frickin-men Reverend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> It's becoming blindingly obvious that Gen P. is reading the TVF and using the expats sensible ideas and suggestions. Since the coup, he has made all our wildest dreams come true. Police reform, tracking the Shin corruption, booting out corrupt officials, transparent infrastructure planning, dismantling the cult of Thaksin red shirts, we wrote about it here, and the good general is following through with it all. Time to give ourselves a big pat on the back. I wonder what he makes of all the time-warp trollers that still haven't realized that Thaksin is gone forever? you've been smoking too much! alt=facepalm.gif> And you've been smoking Thaksin to much! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> It's becoming blindingly obvious that Gen P. is reading the TVF and using the expats sensible ideas and suggestions. Since the coup, he has made all our wildest dreams come true. Police reform, tracking the Shin corruption, booting out corrupt officials, transparent infrastructure planning, dismantling the cult of Thaksin red shirts, we wrote about it here, and the good general is following through with it all. Time to give ourselves a big pat on the back. I wonder what he makes of all the time-warp trollers that still haven't realized that Thaksin is gone forever? you've been smoking too much! alt=facepalm.gif> And you've been smoking Thaksin to much! And that shows you do not know anything! I have never suported Thaksin, maybe you should read my many post in relation to that criminal! But I would not be so foolish to make comments that somehow imply TVisa forum is having an influence on proceedingd here! Edited June 13, 2014 by ggold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Prayuth, who at this point is looking like an incredible voice of reason, has chosen to end this corruption riddled mess that did nothing to help the farmers. As another posted noted, he must be reading TV as he is cleaning house on the issues that negatively affected Thailand for years. ........It is almost getting surreal at this point, as one sacred cow after another is being pitched aside. He clearly does not give a flying bleep about whose rice bowls are being broken. Bravo !!! And the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy are real too!! Seriously?? If you honestly think that the General is so far out of touch with all the things that are fundamentally and morally wrong in Thailand, that he has to read about them in an online forum really makes it look like the General is an idiot, and has no concept of how Thailand needs to be "improved" How about giving him more credibility than stating "he's reading and getting all his ideas about reformation" from an internet forum" , I'm sorry, but if the leader of a Country is relying on the concepts of fixing Thailand for the better, from a forum such as TVF, he does NOT deserve to lead it!! I think you'll find that as much as it might surprise some people, there's more than enough Thai Academics and economists more than qualified than " goodguy" , "flickmybean" and "rampantrooter" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I will comment in a years time,remember"a week is a long time in politics' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadmo63 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The good General doesn't need votes like the pollies, although running the junta might cut into his retirement. The RPS has already cost the country 500,000,000,000 baht. That's 500 Billion if you can't count that many zeros. It's not rocket science. Of course the General gets all his best ideas by reading TV, not. I've read some silly things here but that's got to best. Pass me the bong, will ya? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 It's becoming blindingly obvious that Gen P. is reading the TVF and using the expats sensible ideas and suggestions. Since the coup, he has made all our wildest dreams come true. Police reform, tracking the Shin corruption, booting out corrupt officials, transparent infrastructure planning, dismantling the cult of Thaksin red shirts, we wrote about it here, and the good general is following through with it all. Time to give ourselves a big pat on the back. I wonder what he makes of all the time-warp trollers that still haven't realized that Thaksin is gone forever? Well, common sense and logic often wins in the end. All it took was someone with big plums to do the job. Or, perhaps TVF is blessed and it makes all your dreams come true,,,? So,, I hope that very soon I come into enough money to free myself from the daily grind… (you never know) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveller45 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 My thoughts exactly. State intervention in commodity purchase might make sense in cases where otherwise, subjected to free market, a speciality is threatened by extinction. The contrary has been true for rice in Thailand, a sector that functioned extremely well before State intervention and has been declining ever since. Yes, it seems the General did adopt a few of our thoughts, but the need for these was as plain as daylight and so there is limited need for severe back patting. A great example, all this, to prove that a GOOD dictatorship is largely preferable to a BAD democracy. I just hope the proposed changes, which will inevitably need some time, will not be reversed by whichever democratically elected regime that will follow, otherwise we might have to coerce the General to stay a little longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 i am not looking forward to elections. General P can sit in this position for as long it takes. He has done more in 4 weeks that the previous Government and the one before that has ever done. Keep it up and keep the politicians out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post love1012 Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 This is good news indeed, and it will also make the farmers who unfortunately suffered through this scam, into a rethink as to how they can have a good return on their crops and minimise production costs. The world market will dictate the price they get for their product, not a Government that was so far out of touch with reality, you needed oxygen to breath !! The big cash cow has been slaughtered, and now they need to start smart thinking. No big divvies for the Millers either. I wouldn't go as far as stating that the General is reading TVF and doing everything that the forum members have desired, and wished for, don't forget that there's as many Thais who have had similar thoughts, I doubt the General has time to be surfing the internet these days, posting selfies, and clicking "like" It's a nice fantasy to believe, but I'd be more inclined to believe that he has some astute and clever Thai academics who felt "stiffled" under the Shiniwatra Regime, who were as aware of the what was needed for Thailand to prosper too Next you'll be believing that the bold "scamper" is re writing their constitution for them? has anyone seen or heard from him? He's been very inactive this past 2 weeks, I miss his non paragraphed, but educational posts. Haggis!! I am agreeing with you yet again. Where is that red streak and democracy attitude you had before.Were you one arrested for re training? "Resistance is futile" I was more anti Suthep than pro red I do like the way this General is going about his business, and I wonder what the TVF members who lambasted me the other week when I said the General was already a politician, whether he liked it or not, and they said "rubbish" He's just a General!! ...oh really????? he looks every bit a politician right now, and a pretty good one at that!! Good for you fat haggis - more and more sensible posts!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 It's becoming blindingly obvious that Gen P. is reading the TVF and using the expats sensible ideas and suggestions. Since the coup, he has made all our wildest dreams come true. Police reform, tracking the Shin corruption, booting out corrupt officials, transparent infrastructure planning, dismantling the cult of Thaksin red shirts, we wrote about it here, and the good general is following through with it all. Time to give ourselves a big pat on the back. I wonder what he makes of all the time-warp trollers that still haven't realized that Thaksin is gone forever? Agree, I posted the same thing earlier on a topic. I said unless it is a coincidence. But I have a gut feeling some feedback could have come from TVF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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