Flu scare for Germany's World Cup squad

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Flu scare for Germany's World Cup squad

Seven of Germany's World Cup squad have been hit by 'flu symptoms and sore throats ahead of Friday's World Cup quarter-final against France, head coach Joachim Loew confirmed Thursday.

The full squad trained at Rio de Janeiro's iconic Maracana stadium on the eve of the game with no obvious ill effects.

But Loew has said seven players are affected, without stating who, and centre-back Mats Hummels missed Monday's last 16 win over Algeria with illness.

"One third of our squad were complaining of sore throats and perhaps they picked something up from the air-conditioning and different climates here," said Loew.

"Sometimes you have to wait and see how things develop.

"Mats ran a fever at the start of the week, but all players were able to train today.

"Some have a slight cold, but there is no lethargy and I hope it stays that way over night."

The German FA (DFB) had previously said defensive midfielder Christoph Kramer is struggling to be fit for the Rio clash after showing flu-symptoms.

On Thursday, Germany goalkeeper Manuel Neuer revealed Hummels had been kept away from his team-mates at the team's hotel to stop the bug from spreading.

But the Borussia Dortmund star has tweeted on Wednesday that he is "almost 100 percent" ready to face the French.

-- (c) Copyright AFP 2014-07-04

[Doc Blake]

My money says some fool thought it would be a great idea to vaccinate everyone on the team for the Flu. Ha, an excellent way to get sick, weaken your immunity and so catch the flu is to get vaccinated for it.

From Referenced Article:

"Vaccines usually do not impart long-term immunity because they don't create the kind of memory that occurs when you go through the process of a natural immune response. Natural exposure does not necessarily lead to symptoms of infection – it is possible for your immune system to respond and for you to obtain natural immunity without actually getting sick, if your immune system is functioning well. In fact, vaccines do NOT strengthen the healthy functioning of your immune system, but actually weaken it. Here are just some of the ways vaccines can impair and alter your immune response:

Some components in vaccines are neurotoxic and may depress your immune response or cause brain and immune dysfunction, particularly heavy metals such as mercury preservatives (thimerosal) and aluminum adjuvants
The lab altered vaccine viruses themselves may also affect your immune response in a negative way

Vaccines may alter your t-cell function and lead you to become chronically ill
Vaccines can trigger allergies or autoimmune disorders. Vaccines introduce large foreign protein molecules into your body. Your body can respond to these foreign particles in a way that causes an allergic reaction or triggers autoimmunty, especially in persons genetically or biologically vulnerable to allergy and autoimmunity

Getting a flu shot can affect your cardiovascular system because vaccination stimulates an acute inflammatory response in your body, which also could become chronic. One 2007 study published in the Annals of Medicine10 concluded that:

Quote
"Abnormalities in arterial function and LDL oxidation may persist for at least two weeks after a slight inflammatory reaction induced by influenza vaccination. These could explain in part the earlier reported increase in cardiovascular risk during the first weeks after an acute inflammatory disorder."

Happy Healthy Trails

Doc Blake

Reference Article:
Flu Vaccine Increases Risk of Serious Pandemic Flu Illness
articles Mercola dot com flu-shot-increases-flu-illness

[Ulic]

My money says some fool thought it would be a great idea to vaccinate everyone on the team for the Flu. Ha, an excellent way to get sick, weaken your immunity and so catch the flu is to get vaccinated for it.

From Referenced Article:

"Vaccines usually do not impart long-term immunity because they don't create the kind of memory that occurs when you go through the process of a natural immune response. Natural exposure does not necessarily lead to symptoms of infection – it is possible for your immune system to respond and for you to obtain natural immunity without actually getting sick, if your immune system is functioning well. In fact, vaccines do NOT strengthen the healthy functioning of your immune system, but actually weaken it. Here are just some of the ways vaccines can impair and alter your immune response:

Some components in vaccines are neurotoxic and may depress your immune response or cause brain and immune dysfunction, particularly heavy metals such as mercury preservatives (thimerosal) and aluminum adjuvants

The lab altered vaccine viruses themselves may also affect your immune response in a negative way

Vaccines may alter your t-cell function and lead you to become chronically ill

Vaccines can trigger allergies or autoimmune disorders. Vaccines introduce large foreign protein molecules into your body. Your body can respond to these foreign particles in a way that causes an allergic reaction or triggers autoimmunty, especially in persons genetically or biologically vulnerable to allergy and autoimmunity

Getting a flu shot can affect your cardiovascular system because vaccination stimulates an acute inflammatory response in your body, which also could become chronic. One 2007 study published in the Annals of Medicine10 concluded that:

Quote

"Abnormalities in arterial function and LDL oxidation may persist for at least two weeks after a slight inflammatory reaction induced by influenza vaccination. These could explain in part the earlier reported increase in cardiovascular risk during the first weeks after an acute inflammatory disorder."

Happy Healthy Trails

Doc Blake

Reference Article:

Flu Vaccine Increases Risk of Serious Pandemic Flu Illness

articles Mercola dot com flu-shot-increases-flu-illness

I Googled Dr Mercola and on Wiki he is considered a quack. Do you have any pier reviewed published research?

[Doc Blake]

My money says some fool thought it would be a great idea to vaccinate everyone on the team for the Flu. Ha, an excellent way to get sick, weaken your immunity and so catch the flu is to get vaccinated for it.

From Referenced Article:

"Vaccines usually do not impart long-term immunity because they don't create the kind of memory that occurs when you go through the process of a natural immune response. Natural exposure does not necessarily lead to symptoms of infection – it is possible for your immune system to respond and for you to obtain natural immunity without actually getting sick, if your immune system is functioning well. In fact, vaccines do NOT strengthen the healthy functioning of your immune system, but actually weaken it. Here are just some of the ways vaccines can impair and alter your immune response:

Some components in vaccines are neurotoxic and may depress your immune response or cause brain and immune dysfunction, particularly heavy metals such as mercury preservatives (thimerosal) and aluminum adjuvants

The lab altered vaccine viruses themselves may also affect your immune response in a negative way

Vaccines may alter your t-cell function and lead you to become chronically ill

Vaccines can trigger allergies or autoimmune disorders. Vaccines introduce large foreign protein molecules into your body. Your body can respond to these foreign particles in a way that causes an allergic reaction or triggers autoimmunty, especially in persons genetically or biologically vulnerable to allergy and autoimmunity

Getting a flu shot can affect your cardiovascular system because vaccination stimulates an acute inflammatory response in your body, which also could become chronic. One 2007 study published in the Annals of Medicine10 concluded that:

Quote

"Abnormalities in arterial function and LDL oxidation may persist for at least two weeks after a slight inflammatory reaction induced by influenza vaccination. These could explain in part the earlier reported increase in cardiovascular risk during the first weeks after an acute inflammatory disorder."

Happy Healthy Trails

Doc Blake

Reference Article:

Flu Vaccine Increases Risk of Serious Pandemic Flu Illness

articles Mercola dot com flu-shot-increases-flu-illness

I Googled Dr Mercola and on Wiki he is considered a quack. Do you have any pier reviewed published research?

HA, WELL YOU ARE QUICK ON THE DRAW!

Dr. Joseph Mercola, M.D. is called a lot of things by people who do not agree with him, but that does not make them true!

References, if you would have taken a moment to read the article I referenced you would have seen them, but I will help you out, seeing you are in such a rush, do you have a deadline hahaha!

• References:

  Vancouver Sun September 10, 2012

• MetroNews September 9, 2012

• 1 Vancouver Sun September 10, 2012
• 2 ABC News March 5, 2011
• 3 Journal of Virology 2011 Nov;85(22):11995-2000
• 4 See ref 1
• 5 MetroNews September 9, 2012
• 6 See ref 1 and 5
• 7 See ref 5
• 8 See ref 5
• 9 Infectioncontroltoday.com, National Council on Aging Urges Older Adults to Get Their Annual Flu Shot, August 2012
• 10 See ref 3

Edited July 4, 2014 by Doc Blake

[marstons]

I am sure the German team doctor would be well aware of any such problems

[djhotsox]

How do you go from an article about World Cup Soccer (that's the interesting bit) to a debate over flu vaccinations and weakened immunity systems? Who cares? What we care about is the effect on the team and their performance in the World Cup Match.....let's debate that.....<deleted>?

[P45Mustang]

How do you go from an article about World Cup Soccer (that's the interesting bit) to a debate over flu vaccinations and weakened immunity systems? Who cares? What we care about is the effect on the team and their performance in the World Cup Match.....let's debate that.....<deleted>?

Good point.

But this is social media. So you'll get this sort of crap.

Unavoidable unfortunately.

Shame you can't vaccinate against it.

German team definitely reduced in strength however they attempt to minimise it.

[Doc Blake]

Only a boob or a vaccinated slug would not consider the probability that the team had been given a vaccination prior to going to the games, hahaha! Why do I say vaccinated slug, well look at some of the ingredients that they catch once a year! Better to catch the flu and down a couple of shots of whiskey in a hot toddy, with an aspirin then take a chance on this garbage!

2-Phenoxyethanol, anti-bacterial agent considered toxic, side effects, behavioral disorders … vomiting … diarrhea … visual disturbances … convulsions … rapid heart rate … central nervous system disorders … depression … kidney, liver and blood disorders … and reproductive defects.

Aluminum as aluminum hydroxy phosphate sulfate and aluminum hydroxide, an “adjuvant” to stimulate your immune system response to the vaccine. A particularly dangerous neurotoxin – causes brain damage, Alzheimer’s, dementia, convulsions, coma.

Ammonium Sulfate commonly added to pesticides, spected of causing gastrointestinal, liver, nervous system and respiratory system toxicity.

Beta-Propiolactone a hazardous chemical It caused lymphomas and hepatomas after being injected into lab mice, International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has classified beta-propiolactone as a possible human carcinogen.

Formaldehyde a preservative to stabilize the vaccine. flammable, strong-smelling chemical used to embalm – and preserve – dead bodies. weakens the immune system and causes neurological damage, genetic damage, circulatory shock, respiratory insufficiency, and acute renal (kidney) failure. a human carcinogen (cancer-causing substance) by IARC and is ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds on at least eight federal regulatory lists.

Formalin helps preserve the vaccine. It’s a mixture of formaldehyde, methanol and water. It’s mostly used to preserve tissue samples in health care laboratories and presents the same danger to your health as formaldehyde does.

Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) excites and poisons your cells and tissues. It’s used as a stabilizer in vaccines, found in processed foods. causes retinal degeneration, behavior disorders, learning disabilities, reproductive disorders, obesity, brain lesons, Allergic reactions to MSG can be severe.

MRC-5 Cellular Protein is human diploid cells taken from aborted human fetuses. They’re used as a culture to grow the virus.

Neomycin is an antibiotic, a neurotoxin and an ototoxin (affect hearing and balance), can cause respiratory paralysis, kidney damage and kidney failure. Plus, it retards your vitamin B6 absorption, sometimes leading to mental retardation and epilepsy. Some allergic reactions to neomycin can be life threatening.

Octoxinol-9, a vaginal spermicide.

Phenol, used in the production of drugs, weed killers and synthetic resins, inhibites your immune system from properly dealing with the pathogens that are entering your body through the vaccine.
It’s considered to be toxic to your cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, nervous, reproductive and respiratory systems … your liver … your kidneys … and your skin. Used by the Nazis as a means of extermination during the World War II – to kill those who were mentally ill, had incurable tuberculosis and were permanently incapable of work.

Polymyxin B is an antibiotic with side effects – neurotoxicity and acute renal tubular necrosis (the most common cause of kidney failure).

Polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) a stabilizer in the vaccine, The December 2005 issue of Annals of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, polysorbate 80 can affect your immune system and cause severe anaphylactic shock, which can kill. It also causes cancer in animals.

Streptomycin is an antibiotic. Its main side effect is ototoxicity – the loss of hearing.

Thimerosal Mercury,used as a preservative contains 49.6% mercury by weight, implicated in many health conditions, cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia, and many nervous system conditions, second in toxicity to radioactive Uranium, a powerful neurotoxin

Ref
-5 Reasons Why I’ll Never Get a Flu Shot, Daisy Luther, Contributor Activist Post, January 12, 2013
-Ingredients of Vaccines - Fact Sheet, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, website

[P45Mustang]

Only a boob or a vaccinated slug would not consider the probability that the team had been given a vaccination prior to going to the games, hahaha! Why do I say vaccinated slug, well look at some of the ingredients that they catch once a year! Better to catch the flu and down a couple of shots of whiskey in a hot toddy, with an aspirin then take a chance on this garbage!

2-Phenoxyethanol, anti-bacterial agent considered toxic, side effects, behavioral disorders … vomiting … diarrhea … visual disturbances … convulsions … rapid heart rate … central nervous system disorders … depression … kidney, liver and blood disorders … and reproductive defects.

Aluminum as aluminum hydroxy phosphate sulfate and aluminum hydroxide, an “adjuvant” to stimulate your immune system response to the vaccine. A particularly dangerous neurotoxin – causes brain damage, Alzheimer’s, dementia, convulsions, coma.

Ammonium Sulfate commonly added to pesticides, spected of causing gastrointestinal, liver, nervous system and respiratory system toxicity.

Beta-Propiolactone a hazardous chemical It caused lymphomas and hepatomas after being injected into lab mice, International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has classified beta-propiolactone as a possible human carcinogen.

Formaldehyde a preservative to stabilize the vaccine. flammable, strong-smelling chemical used to embalm – and preserve – dead bodies. weakens the immune system and causes neurological damage, genetic damage, circulatory shock, respiratory insufficiency, and acute renal (kidney) failure. a human carcinogen (cancer-causing substance) by IARC and is ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds on at least eight federal regulatory lists.

Formalin helps preserve the vaccine. It’s a mixture of formaldehyde, methanol and water. It’s mostly used to preserve tissue samples in health care laboratories and presents the same danger to your health as formaldehyde does.

Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) excites and poisons your cells and tissues. It’s used as a stabilizer in vaccines, found in processed foods. causes retinal degeneration, behavior disorders, learning disabilities, reproductive disorders, obesity, brain lesons, Allergic reactions to MSG can be severe.

MRC-5 Cellular Protein is human diploid cells taken from aborted human fetuses. They’re used as a culture to grow the virus.

Neomycin is an antibiotic, a neurotoxin and an ototoxin (affect hearing and balance), can cause respiratory paralysis, kidney damage and kidney failure. Plus, it retards your vitamin B6 absorption, sometimes leading to mental retardation and epilepsy. Some allergic reactions to neomycin can be life threatening.

Octoxinol-9, a vaginal spermicide.

Phenol, used in the production of drugs, weed killers and synthetic resins, inhibites your immune system from properly dealing with the pathogens that are entering your body through the vaccine.

It’s considered to be toxic to your cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, nervous, reproductive and respiratory systems … your liver … your kidneys … and your skin. Used by the Nazis as a means of extermination during the World War II – to kill those who were mentally ill, had incurable tuberculosis and were permanently incapable of work.

Polymyxin B is an antibiotic with side effects – neurotoxicity and acute renal tubular necrosis (the most common cause of kidney failure).

Polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) a stabilizer in the vaccine, The December 2005 issue of Annals of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, polysorbate 80 can affect your immune system and cause severe anaphylactic shock, which can kill. It also causes cancer in animals.

Streptomycin is an antibiotic. Its main side effect is ototoxicity – the loss of hearing.

Thimerosal Mercury,used as a preservative contains 49.6% mercury by weight, implicated in many health conditions, cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia, and many nervous system conditions, second in toxicity to radioactive Uranium, a powerful neurotoxin

Ref

-5 Reasons Why I’ll Never Get a Flu Shot, Daisy Luther, Contributor Activist Post, January 12, 2013

-Ingredients of Vaccines - Fact Sheet, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, website

Think you need to see a psychiatrist mate.

Anyway, Germany won 1 nil. Cured.

[Doc Blake]

Only a boob or a vaccinated slug would not consider the probability that the team had been given a vaccination prior to going to the games, hahaha! Why do I say vaccinated slug, well look at some of the ingredients that they catch once a year! Better to catch the flu and down a couple of shots of whiskey in a hot toddy, with an aspirin then take a chance on this garbage!

2-Phenoxyethanol, anti-bacterial agent considered toxic, side effects, behavioral disorders … vomiting … diarrhea … visual disturbances … convulsions … rapid heart rate … central nervous system disorders … depression … kidney, liver and blood disorders … and reproductive defects.

Aluminum as aluminum hydroxy phosphate sulfate and aluminum hydroxide, an “adjuvant” to stimulate your immune system response to the vaccine. A particularly dangerous neurotoxin – causes brain damage, Alzheimer’s, dementia, convulsions, coma.

Ammonium Sulfate commonly added to pesticides, spected of causing gastrointestinal, liver, nervous system and respiratory system toxicity.

Beta-Propiolactone a hazardous chemical It caused lymphomas and hepatomas after being injected into lab mice, International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has classified beta-propiolactone as a possible human carcinogen.

Formaldehyde a preservative to stabilize the vaccine. flammable, strong-smelling chemical used to embalm – and preserve – dead bodies. weakens the immune system and causes neurological damage, genetic damage, circulatory shock, respiratory insufficiency, and acute renal (kidney) failure. a human carcinogen (cancer-causing substance) by IARC and is ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds on at least eight federal regulatory lists.

Formalin helps preserve the vaccine. It’s a mixture of formaldehyde, methanol and water. It’s mostly used to preserve tissue samples in health care laboratories and presents the same danger to your health as formaldehyde does.

Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) excites and poisons your cells and tissues. It’s used as a stabilizer in vaccines, found in processed foods. causes retinal degeneration, behavior disorders, learning disabilities, reproductive disorders, obesity, brain lesons, Allergic reactions to MSG can be severe.

MRC-5 Cellular Protein is human diploid cells taken from aborted human fetuses. They’re used as a culture to grow the virus.

Neomycin is an antibiotic, a neurotoxin and an ototoxin (affect hearing and balance), can cause respiratory paralysis, kidney damage and kidney failure. Plus, it retards your vitamin B6 absorption, sometimes leading to mental retardation and epilepsy. Some allergic reactions to neomycin can be life threatening.

Octoxinol-9, a vaginal spermicide.

Phenol, used in the production of drugs, weed killers and synthetic resins, inhibites your immune system from properly dealing with the pathogens that are entering your body through the vaccine.

It’s considered to be toxic to your cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, nervous, reproductive and respiratory systems … your liver … your kidneys … and your skin. Used by the Nazis as a means of extermination during the World War II – to kill those who were mentally ill, had incurable tuberculosis and were permanently incapable of work.

Polymyxin B is an antibiotic with side effects – neurotoxicity and acute renal tubular necrosis (the most common cause of kidney failure).

Polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) a stabilizer in the vaccine, The December 2005 issue of Annals of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, polysorbate 80 can affect your immune system and cause severe anaphylactic shock, which can kill. It also causes cancer in animals.

Streptomycin is an antibiotic. Its main side effect is ototoxicity – the loss of hearing.

Thimerosal Mercury,used as a preservative contains 49.6% mercury by weight, implicated in many health conditions, cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia, and many nervous system conditions, second in toxicity to radioactive Uranium, a powerful neurotoxin

Ref

-5 Reasons Why I’ll Never Get a Flu Shot, Daisy Luther, Contributor Activist Post, January 12, 2013

-Ingredients of Vaccines - Fact Sheet, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, website

Think you need to see a psychiatrist mate.

Anyway, Germany won 1 nil. Cured.

Ha, a quote from the over medicated, over vaccinated, over stuffed and in need of resuscitation at the resthome mate? The subject was, did they have the flu or what? I say they got a flu shot, and that was the problem! If anyone needs a psychiatrist mate, it is y-o-u!

Edited July 5, 2014 by Doc Blake

[P45Mustang]

@ DocBlake. You appear to have a bit of a downer on the pharmaceutical industry.

It is pure conjecture that the flu symptoms were a result of vaccination, unless you can provide evidence?

Quite likely they picked up a flu type bug in Rio.

[Doc Blake]

@ DocBlake. You appear to have a bit of a downer on the pharmaceutical industry.

It is pure conjecture that the flu symptoms were a result of vaccination, unless you can provide evidence?

Quite likely they picked up a flu type bug in Rio.

Your conjecture a bug may be right, but could be food, and there is always the possibility of a vaccination and side effects considering the numbers of people involved.

The CDC itself warns: Mild Side Effect Problems with Flu Vaccination

soreness, redness, or swelling where the shot was given

hoarseness; sore, red or itchy eyes; cough

fever

aches

headache

itching

fatigue

Ref: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, website

As far as your question, my downer on the pharmaceutical industry? Yes, they have everything on their side, they do their own studies to get FDA approval, the law regarding the reporting of side effects is not enforced, they cannot be sued by the families of those hurt (so there is no incentive to be careful), they have never had to do long term studies that prove their vaccines actually work, and now I believe babies get 26 vaccinations and most of those have to be repeated, the rate of autism was 1 in 10,000 about 30 years ago, now it is 1 in 68 (my money says this belongs on their door step)

Edited July 5, 2014 by Doc Blake

[P45Mustang]

I've got a headache coming on.

( This is a Wold Cup football thread btw.)

[Doc Blake]

Shallow, you need a ?

Edited July 6, 2014 by Doc Blake

[titletitle106]

Isn't the Germany squad not strong enough, i think it is not because of the weather in Brazil but i think it about the players fitness. But they still made it through to the semi-finals Congrats!!!