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BANGKOK: -- The National Council for Peace and Order late this evening issued an order dismissing the governor of the State Railway of Thailand (SRT) from office.

The order did not give reason for the dismissal but said only that it took immediate effect.

The order was signed by NCPO chairman Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha.

Although no reason was given and no replacement was announced, it was believed that a major reason to dismiss the governor was the tragic incident on the sleeper train last Sunday when a 13-year-old girl student, Nong Gaem, was raped, killed and her body thrown out of the speeding train by a SRT employee catering to the sleeper bogey she was seated.

The incident sparked public outcry and widespread share on the social network calling on the SRT governor to show responsibility to the incident. It also called on the military junta to introduce capital punishment on the rapist murderer.

However the governor ignored and even challenged public criticism by saying his resignation would not help to solve problem, but could be interpreted as fleeing from the problem.

He ordered security beef-up, banned alcohol sales on board the train, and reviewed all new staff recruitment. However this was after the incident.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/srt-governor-sacked/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=srt-governor-sacked

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-- Thai PBS 2014-07-10

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Obviously he is not high ranking enough to be moved to an inactive position! Would this constitute a loss of face? Is this Thainess. whistling.gif

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Something bad happens down the line, the top guy falls on his sword. As it should be.

This wouldn't have happened before the coup. No matter how high you are, if you screw up, you will be held responsible. Well done!

How exactly did the top guy screw up?

He ran a train service that allowed a passenger to be raped and killed comes to mind?

Your answer is complete nonsense! So he should be held personally responsible for everything that any one of thousands of employees might do? Perhaps you can reveal to us your plan for stopping bad stuff from happening in the world.
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Something bad happens down the line, the top guy falls on his sword. As it should be.

This wouldn't have happened before the coup. No matter how high you are, if you screw up, you will be held responsible. Well done!

How exactly did the top guy screw up?

He ran a train service that allowed a passenger to be raped and killed comes to mind?

And how was he responsible for that gruesome act?

I thought they already caught the guy responsible?

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Obviously he is not high ranking enough to be moved to an inactive position! Would this constitute a loss of face? Is this Thainess. whistling.gif

I think they will sack almost anyone they want to. Not too long ago the Prime Minister and her entire government got sacked.

Even the constitution got sacked.

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Gate closed --horse gone.

As in every situation the boss carries the responsibility for actions of his/her staff.

Please go to all the topics on rice and tell that to the Yingluck supporters.

I have mixed feeling about this, sure it sends a message to all those at the top that they must ensure good governance and take responsibility.

But in this case where an employee hid or falsified documents so a relative could get the job the boss would have had no knowledge of this and every boss must put a measure of trust in their employees so there was really nothing he could have done to prevent it.

Obviously in this case the trust was betrayed by the one who approved the appointment.

So where does this stop ? The immediate superior of the one who made the appointment, are they also responsible and so on right up the line ?

There will be a big shake up over this but will anyone else be able to do it better than the now previous governor ?

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It's what he was wanting all along.

He told the Bangkok Post that he refused to resign because if he did, he would have to legally pay SRT compensation and he invited them to sack him instead.

This guy is lower than a snake's belly.... I hope nobody touches him in the future with a ten foot barge pole.

Now put him in prison for causing death through negligence.

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Something bad happens down the line, the top guy falls on his sword. As it should be.

This wouldn't have happened before the coup. No matter how high you are, if you screw up, you will be held responsible. Well done!

How exactly did the top guy screw up?

He ran a train service that allowed a passenger to be raped and killed comes to mind?

Your answer is complete nonsense! So he should be held personally responsible for everything that any one of thousands of employees might do? Perhaps you can reveal to us your plan for stopping bad stuff from happening in the world.

Far from it Mate!

in many countries Politicians who are usually blameless in these situations resign on mass when there's a terrible tragedy (Japan Passenger plane crashes) Granted there isn't a high death toll here but as must be clear to anyone this crime has quite understandably outraged a great deal of the Thai population.This guy is much more strongly connected to what happened and by rights should have resigned bearing in mind Thai accountability or lack of that was never going to happen So the General did the decent thing.

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Something bad happens down the line, the top guy falls on his sword. As it should be.

This wouldn't have happened before the coup. No matter how high you are, if you screw up, you will be held responsible. Well done!

How exactly did the top guy screw up?

He ran a train service that allowed a passenger to be raped and killed comes to mind?

And how was he responsible for that gruesome act?

I thought they already caught the guy responsible?

From the news it appears the killer was employed by the railways. Any safety related incidents, whether it be a train crash or a methed up rail-worker killer rapist is ultimately the responsibility of the man at the top in the normal world. Perhaps the next SRT leader might better install procedures to vet their employees and install safe passenger environments to travel in - but i doubt it.

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clap2.gif accountability? Did someone look that up in a dic? Hopefully now the relative that got the punk hired faces the same fate.

and more...

A lot more heads to roll, now there are many other heads of state enterprises who will also be looking over the shoulder particularly as most got their jobs through Nepotism or political allegiance.

Hopefully the Junta will kick em out and appoint more qualified persons to do the job thereby improving efficiencies of all government departments and state enterprises, hopefully by the time the have finished you will not recognise Thailand.

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From the news it appears the killer was employed by the railways. Any safety related incidents, whether it be a train crash or a methed up rail-worker killer rapist is ultimately the responsibility of the man at the top in the normal world. Perhaps the next SRT leader might better install procedures to vet their employees and install safe passenger environments to travel in - but i doubt it.

One would imagine that the rules for hiring are all on the books already. Since the main boss man has gone, I await the naming and shaming of the HR guy and the relative who conspired to do this.

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Something bad happens down the line, the top guy falls on his sword. As it should be.

This wouldn't have happened before the coup. No matter how high you are, if you screw up, you will be held responsible. Well done!

How exactly did the top guy screw up?

By not stopping corruption and nepotism....and you can't tell me he didn't know it was going on.

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Gate closed --horse gone.

As in every situation the boss carries the responsibility for actions of his/her staff.

Please go to all the topics on rice and tell that to the Yingluck supporters.

I have mixed feeling about this, sure it sends a message to all those at the top that they must ensure good governance and take responsibility.

But in this case where an employee hid or falsified documents so a relative could get the job the boss would have had no knowledge of this and every boss must put a measure of trust in their employees so there was really nothing he could have done to prevent it.

Obviously in this case the trust was betrayed by the one who approved the appointment.

So where does this stop ? The immediate superior of the one who made the appointment, are they also responsible and so on right up the line ?

There will be a big shake up over this but will anyone else be able to do it better than the now previous governor ?

SRT was in a complete mess before the gruesome events of last Sunday, so the Governor was already under the spotlight.

How many (almost weekly) derailments and deaths did we comment on over the past two years...?! This was essentially the final straw...!!

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Something bad happens down the line, the top guy falls on his sword. As it should be.

This wouldn't have happened before the coup. No matter how high you are, if you screw up, you will be held responsible. Well done!

How exactly did the top guy screw up?

He ran a train service that allowed a passenger to be raped and killed comes to mind?

And how was he responsible for that gruesome act?

I thought they already caught the guy responsible?

From the news it appears the killer was employed by the railways. Any safety related incidents, whether it be a train crash or a methed up rail-worker killer rapist is ultimately the responsibility of the man at the top in the normal world. Perhaps the next SRT leader might better install procedures to vet their employees and install safe passenger environments to travel in - but i doubt it.

Well where I'm from he wouldn't be summarily dismissed by the army. There would be a public inquiry. This is how democratic nations deal with this kind of thing. There have been train accidents in the UK and the CEO didn't lose his job after the inquiry. It would be just as ridiculous to blame the CEO for a signals failure as it is to blame this guy for an employee raping and killing this unfortunate girl.

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Hopefully the next Governor will create hiring guidelines that prevent the hiring of anyone with a criminal record and will make rules against workplace use of drugs & alcohol. Hopefully the next Governor will make it against the rules for anyone to edit an applicants criminal record to circumvent the rules.

As for the normal world, the CEO is not removed every time something bad happens at the company--in fact, its his job to see the company through such difficult periods and mitigate the possibility of a recurrence. That is exactly what this Governor was attempting to do.

In the real world, if the CEO did nothing to stop nepotism and almost certainly got his job by the same means, which led to this monster being given a job with the the company which subsequently led to serial rape and murder, drug and alcohol consumption.... then add to that a public outrage threatening protests in the capital.... Then yes, they would either be forced to resign or sacked and in the UK and USA they would likely be facing big prison time on top.

I don't know where you come from, but it sounds either a worse place than Thailand or you have just gone through life wearing a blindfold.

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their have been a few train derailments and other mishaps on a regular occurrence, are the drivers and other rail employees breathalysed after accidents?

Maybe time to have some railway police to route out employees who drink or steal, and fare dodgers, those who compromise the safety of the railways, etc.

https://www.btp.police.uk/about_us.aspx

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Something bad happens down the line, the top guy falls on his sword. As it should be.

This wouldn't have happened before the coup. No matter how high you are, if you screw up, you will be held responsible. Well done!

How exactly did the top guy screw up?

He ran a train service that allowed a passenger to be raped and killed comes to mind?

Your answer is complete nonsense! So he should be held personally responsible for everything that any one of thousands of employees might do? Perhaps you can reveal to us your plan for stopping bad stuff from happening in the world.

Actually he is the guy where the buck stops. But the problem was more that because of nepotism in his organisation it went wrong. That is his responsibility. But this is the same guy who said he would resign if more trains would derail.. they did and he did not resign.

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