Ebola outbreak in West Africa difficult to contain

[bkkjames]

Guess those whacko doomsday preppers on TV were right....where do I sign up? 

[MJP]

Dr. Kent Brantly walks into the isolation unit from the ambulance . . .

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11007678/US-aid-worker-infected-by-Ebola-arrives-in-America-for-treatment.html

 

 

It's okay. It was just man flu.

[MJP]

Fear ye not, Merkins. You are not going to get Ebola . . .

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/08/01/why-youre-not-going-to-get-ebola-in-the-u-s/

 

 

“Stop the EBOLA patients from entering the U.S.,” Donald Trump tweeted Friday. “Treat them, at the highest level, over there. THE UNITED STATES HAS ENOUGH PROBLEMS!”

 

 

You narrator recommends that Trumps' hairdo be isolated and quarantined as it presents a mortal risk to all humanity.

[Kabula]

More and more healthcare workers here in Bangkok have recently been wearing surgical masks.

Of course it is flu season as well.

 
Except the Ebola virus is not airborne, it's spread through contact so masks don't really serve any purpose.

Not true; you need to do current research! Prior Ebola history confirmed it can be airborne as animals in separate cages died from air born contamination. Why do you think they wear air tight suits? Also current reports reveal current strain cases are accelerating like never before and 100 healthcare workers have died.

[MJP]

I still think Donald Trump's hairdo represents a potential extinction level event. It causes Necrotizing Facetiousness or NF according to the WHO. Symptoms in those exposed begin with irritation, inflammation and other allergic reactions, ultimately leading to coma and death. Incubation time is around the length of a Piers Morgan interview. Recent evidence suggests the lethal hairdo may already be out of control.

 

[Kabula]

More health care workers are now wearing protect suits and their OWN OXYGEN supply as more and more suspect virus can be airborne. Over 100 workers who believed virus could only be transmitted by bodily fluids are dead! Germany now using Oxygen supplies along with protective suits. They are burning suits every 3 hours. What virus isn't spread airborne? Droplets that hang in the air can penetrate the eyes! Can cling to fingers and then we rub our eyes, mouth and nose.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10998367/Ebola-Germany-accepts-infected-patient-for-treatment.html

Borders and air travel need to be shut down in high risk areas of Africa.

[boomerangutang]

I still think Donald Trump's hairdo represents a potential extinction level event. It causes Necrotizing Facetiousness or NF according to the WHO. Symptoms in those exposed begin with irritation, inflammation and other allergic reactions, ultimately leading to coma and death. Incubation time is around the length of a Piers Morgan interview. Recent evidence suggests the lethal hairdo may already be out of control.
 

Trump to; hairdresser, toupee groomer, toupee cropper, tint captain, toupee taper, mousse mixer: "You're all fired!"
 

[Asiantravel]

 

Good luck with this!

 

Ebola: Spider's web of infection is growing as hunt continues for 30,000 'victims' of outbreak

 

 

As Cabinet ministers held an emergency Cobra meeting in London – the search was widened to find up to 30,000 people who could be hosting the organism which kills 90% of sufferers.

 

 

 

 

 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ebola-spiders-web-infection-growing-3939374

 

Daily Mirror, the centre of "factual" knowledge, readers deserve years shorn from their lives, simply for reading it in the first place.
 

 

 

How about an Irish radio station?

 

 

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0729/633686-ebola/
 

[F430murci]

Dr. Kent Brantly walks into the isolation unit from the ambulance . . .
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11007678/US-aid-worker-infected-by-Ebola-arrives-in-America-for-treatment.html
 
 
It's okay. It was just man flu.

It was after all the young doctor and missionary paramedic they are brining back. They initially provided the impression it was someone else. They apparently have both been administered the experimental antidote that was given to the German lab worker who sustained a needle poke a few years back. The doctor also had a blood transfusion from a young boy that contracted Ebola and survived.

They are obviously, but not openly stating, watching very closely the viability of potential cures with Writebol and Brantly. I also wonder if they think these two will now survive and that their bodies produced antibodies that can be used to fight the virus in others.

[Asiantravel]

More health care workers are now wearing protect suits and their OWN OXYGEN supply as more and more suspect virus can be airborne. Over 100 workers who believed virus could only be transmitted by bodily fluids are dead! Germany now using Oxygen supplies along with protective suits. They are burning suits every 3 hours. What virus isn't spread airborne? Droplets that hang in the air can penetrate the eyes! Can cling to fingers and then we rub our eyes, mouth and nose.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10998367/Ebola-Germany-accepts-infected-patient-for-treatment.html

Borders and air travel need to be shut down in high risk areas of Africa.

 

If Ebola is spreading this easily among medical professionals in biohazard body suits that supposedly keep any air from touching the skin, what chance are the rest of us going to have if this virus gets out into the general population?
 

[zydeco]

 

More health care workers are now wearing protect suits and their OWN OXYGEN supply as more and more suspect virus can be airborne. Over 100 workers who believed virus could only be transmitted by bodily fluids are dead! Germany now using Oxygen supplies along with protective suits. They are burning suits every 3 hours. What virus isn't spread airborne? Droplets that hang in the air can penetrate the eyes! Can cling to fingers and then we rub our eyes, mouth and nose.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10998367/Ebola-Germany-accepts-infected-patient-for-treatment.html

Borders and air travel need to be shut down in high risk areas of Africa.

 

If Ebola is spreading this easily among medical professionals in biohazard body suits that supposedly keep any air from touching the skin, what chance are the rest of us going to have if this virus gets out into the general population?
 

 

 

cnn interviewed the president of LIberia and she said her country had closed the borders, quarantined the villages, and closed the markets, and it wasn't enough.  It didn't stop ebola.  If this gets into a big third world city, with  poor sanitation and spotty to no public health services, what will happen?  What would happen in Bangkok???
 

[F430murci]

More health care workers are now wearing protect suits and their OWN OXYGEN supply as more and more suspect virus can be airborne. Over 100 workers who believed virus could only be transmitted by bodily fluids are dead! Germany now using Oxygen supplies along with protective suits. They are burning suits every 3 hours. What virus isn't spread airborne? Droplets that hang in the air can penetrate the eyes! Can cling to fingers and then we rub our eyes, mouth and nose.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10998367/Ebola-Germany-accepts-infected-patient-for-treatment.html

Borders and air travel need to be shut down in high risk areas of Africa.

 
If Ebola is spreading this easily among medical professionals in biohazard body suits that supposedly keep any air from touching the skin, what chance are the rest of us going to have if this virus gets out into the general population?
 

The article he cites says not airborne and does not mention 100 medical workers. The medical workers were not in their full suits except a few hours a day. Possible and very likely they could have picked it up other ways than air when in the trenches among others. Obviously, Germany and US are taking some, albeit small, risk if bringing people into our countries that have Ebola. They will take every precaution imaginable, necessary or not.

[Asiantravel]

 

 

More health care workers are now wearing protect suits and their OWN OXYGEN supply as more and more suspect virus can be airborne. Over 100 workers who believed virus could only be transmitted by bodily fluids are dead! Germany now using Oxygen supplies along with protective suits. They are burning suits every 3 hours. What virus isn't spread airborne? Droplets that hang in the air can penetrate the eyes! Can cling to fingers and then we rub our eyes, mouth and nose.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10998367/Ebola-Germany-accepts-infected-patient-for-treatment.html

Borders and air travel need to be shut down in high risk areas of Africa.

 
If Ebola is spreading this easily among medical professionals in biohazard body suits that supposedly keep any air from touching the skin, what chance are the rest of us going to have if this virus gets out into the general population?
 

The article he cites says not airborne and does not mention 100 medical workers. The medical workers were not in their full suits except a few hours a day. Possible and very likely they could have picked it up other ways than air when in the trenches among others. Obviously, Germany and US are taking some, albeit small, risk if bringing people into our countries that have Ebola. They will take every precaution imaginable, necessary or not.

 

 

 

It's noticeable though that a lot of of people are commenting on TV and radio that there was no real need for these people to be taken to USA and Germany.

 

And if this new strain is spread through droplets in the air as Kabula mentions, then we obviously know the repercussions of that.

[bkkjames]

 a good read overall http://www.naturalnews.com/046259_Ebola_outbreak_drug_treatments_Monsanto.html

 

more shocking is how the Canadian Health Agency says it can remain alive outside a host for days and can be spread by air.

[Asiantravel]

 a good read overall http://www.naturalnews.com/046259_Ebola_outbreak_drug_treatments_Monsanto.html

 

more shocking is how the Canadian Health Agency says it can remain alive outside a host for days and can be spread by air.

 

What is so farcical is all these biohazard measures and increased scrutiny at airports while America's southern border with Mexico is currently a  totally unsupervised open door

 

[F430murci]

 a good read overall http://www.naturalnews.com/046259_Ebola_outbreak_drug_treatments_Monsanto.html
 
more shocking is how the Canadian Health Agency says it can remain alive outside a host for days and can be spread by air.

That article say HK and UK travelers with Sawyer were already symptomatic, but I thought the passengers identified tested negative. Nevertheless, you are citing a news source that caters to conspiracy theories to promote alternative medicine. Might be best to rely on reliable non-conspiracy sites on something as serious as this.

And to the poster saying this is all a US conspiracy, go crawl back under your special rock marked loser. What friggin stupidity.

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NaturalNews (formerly Newstarget) is a website operated by Mike Adams. It is dedicated to alternative medicine and various conspiracy theories,[2] such as "chemtrails",[3] the alleged dangers of fluoride in drinking water,[4] (as well as those of monosodium glutamate[5] and aspartame) and alleged health problems caused by "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[6] including the now-discredited link to autism.[7]

[bkkjames]

 

 a good read overall http://www.naturalnews.com/046259_Ebola_outbreak_drug_treatments_Monsanto.html
 
more shocking is how the Canadian Health Agency says it can remain alive outside a host for days and can be spread by air.

That article say HK and UK travelers with Sawyer were already symptomatic, but I thought the passengers identified tested negative. Nevertheless, you are citing a news source that caters to conspiracy theories to promote alternative medicine. Might be best to rely on reliable non-conspiracy sites on something as serious as this.

And to the poster saying this is all a US conspiracy, go crawl back under your special rock marked loser. What <deleted> stupidity.

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NaturalNews (formerly Newstarget) is a website operated by Mike Adams. It is dedicated to alternative medicine and various conspiracy theories,[2] such as "chemtrails",[3] the alleged dangers of fluoride in drinking water,[4] (as well as those of monosodium glutamate[5] and aspartame) and alleged health problems caused by "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[6] including the now-discredited link to autism.[7]

 

 

not relying on it, but would be glad to have you post up a link to one or more that are more credible. 

[bkkjames]

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/ebola-guidance-airlines.html

 

Seems their own guide tells air crews to put a mask on suspected cases to prevent spread by air?

 

Management of ill people on aircraft if Ebola virus is suspected

Crew members on a flight with a passenger or other crew member who is ill with a fever, jaundice, or bleeding and who is traveling from or has recently been in a risk area should follow these precautions:

• Keep the sick person separated from others as much as possible.
• Provide the sick person with a surgical mask (if the sick person can tolerate wearing one) to reduce the number of droplets expelled into the air by talking, sneezing, or coughing.
• Give tissues to a sick person who cannot tolerate a mask. Provide a plastic bag for disposing of used tissues.
• Wear impermeable disposable gloves for direct contact with blood or other body fluids.

[F430murci]

Article by Julia Belluz is an intelligent examination as to 60 deaths of health care works during the latest Ebola outbreak.

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Why are so many Ebola health-care workers dying from the virus?

The death toll right now is at least 60, according to the World Health Organization. To put that into context, in the second biggest outbreak in historywhich took place in 1976 in Zaireonly 11 medical personnel died. And that was the first recorded outbreak in history, when measures to prevent transmission of the virus weren't well established.

. . .

First, we need to look at the total numbers affected. In 1976, the death toll was 280 and there were 318 reported cases. In this 2014 outbreak, there have already been 729 deaths and the number of reported cases has reached 1,323. As a point of comparison, that means this outbreak is four times larger than the 1976 flair up.

It's also more geographically dispersed. Previous outbreaks typically occurred in one remote area. Today, Ebola has reached rural and urban areas in Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Nigeria. So the numbers of people affected are unprecedented, and therefore the proportion of health-care workers impacted is sadly going to be larger.

. . .

But don't we know how to protect health workers?

We do. Since the disease is transmitted through direct exposure to bodily fluids from vomit to blood and sweat health-care workers are advised to wear face masks, goggles, gowns and gloves while caring for patients.

The trouble is, health workers in the developing-country context especially those working in some of the poorest countries on earth, where the disease emerged this time don't always have access to this protective gear.

It's important to note that they are also the ones who have died in this outbreak. Of the 60 deaths so far, none involved foreign workers (though two Americans are currently battling the virus, and one is a doctor).

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/2/5960449/why-are-many-ebola-outbreak-health-workers-doctors-dying-virus

[Asiantravel]

 

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/ebola-guidance-airlines.html

 

Seems their own guide tells air crews to put a mask on suspected cases to prevent spread by air?

 

Management of ill people on aircraft if Ebola virus is suspected

Crew members on a flight with a passenger or other crew member who is ill with a fever, jaundice, or bleeding and who is traveling from or has recently been in a risk area should follow these precautions:

• Keep the sick person separated from others as much as possible.
• Provide the sick person with a surgical mask (if the sick person can tolerate wearing one) to reduce the number of droplets expelled into the air by talking, sneezing, or coughing.
• Give tissues to a sick person who cannot tolerate a mask. Provide a plastic bag for disposing of used tissues.
• Wear impermeable disposable gloves for direct contact with blood or other body fluids.

 

 

 

there isn't anywhere near enough emphasis  being put on unequivocally answering yes or no whether you can be infected by simply inhaling droplets from an infected person?

[bkkjames]

 

 

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/ebola-guidance-airlines.html

 

Seems their own guide tells air crews to put a mask on suspected cases to prevent spread by air?

 

Management of ill people on aircraft if Ebola virus is suspected

Crew members on a flight with a passenger or other crew member who is ill with a fever, jaundice, or bleeding and who is traveling from or has recently been in a risk area should follow these precautions:

• Keep the sick person separated from others as much as possible.
• Provide the sick person with a surgical mask (if the sick person can tolerate wearing one) to reduce the number of droplets expelled into the air by talking, sneezing, or coughing.
• Give tissues to a sick person who cannot tolerate a mask. Provide a plastic bag for disposing of used tissues.
• Wear impermeable disposable gloves for direct contact with blood or other body fluids.

 

 

 

there isn't anywhere near enough emphasis  being put on unequivocally answering yes or no whether you can be infected by simply inhaling droplets from an infected person?

 

 

my gut says they don't know yet but hopefully are working under the assertion that it can ... anything less is disastrous 

[F430murci]

Interesting and very sad article as to why there is such a spread and problem in Liberia et al. This really puts things in perspective and illustrates the containment problem present in Africa that would not be an issue in places like Germany, US, UK and etc.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-outbreak-feeds-fear-anger-rumors/story?id=24822436

[Asiantravel]

 

 

 

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/ebola-guidance-airlines.html

 

Seems their own guide tells air crews to put a mask on suspected cases to prevent spread by air?

 

Management of ill people on aircraft if Ebola virus is suspected

Crew members on a flight with a passenger or other crew member who is ill with a fever, jaundice, or bleeding and who is traveling from or has recently been in a risk area should follow these precautions:

• Keep the sick person separated from others as much as possible.
• Provide the sick person with a surgical mask (if the sick person can tolerate wearing one) to reduce the number of droplets expelled into the air by talking, sneezing, or coughing.
• Give tissues to a sick person who cannot tolerate a mask. Provide a plastic bag for disposing of used tissues.
• Wear impermeable disposable gloves for direct contact with blood or other body fluids.

 

 

 

there isn't anywhere near enough emphasis  being put on unequivocally answering yes or no whether you can be infected by simply inhaling droplets from an infected person?

 

 

my gut says they don't know yet but hopefully are working under the assertion that it can ... anything less is disastrous 

 

 

I don't think anyone can fairly criticise this magazine  (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Standard), which has also honed in on this very question

 

While the CDC has conceded that “all Ebola virus species have displayed the ability to be spread through airborne particles (aerosols) under research conditions,” its materials assert “this type of spread has not been documented among humans in a real-world setting, such as a hospital or household.” That’s not the same thing as saying it can’t happen, or that airborne transmission is not happening now.

At a Thursday press conference, CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden avoided claiming that this strain of Ebola is not airborne. Rebecca Hamman of Voice of Nigeria asked: “You just said the transmission of Ebola is through close contact. But it seems it’s going beyond that. The name itself was derived from a river. Do you mean the not water-borne or airborne?” She stated simply: “My people are scared at the rate at which it is being transmitted and moving very fast. I would like to know how Ebola is contracted.”

 

 

http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/scariest-virus-ebola-back-worse-ever-87348/

 

[metisdead]

A nonsensical trolling post has been removed, very poor attempt at humor.

[MJP]

Interesting and very sad article as to why there is such a spread and problem in Liberia et al. This really puts things in perspective and illustrates the containment problem present in Africa that would not be an issue in places like Germany, US, UK and etc.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-outbreak-feeds-fear-anger-rumors/story?id=24822436

 

Throw something like Ebola into a population and watch their characteristics and behavior change.

[MJP]

Here's a potential global transmission route . . .

 

Black market demand for monkey meat could see deadly Ebola virus hit UK

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/494920/Ebola-Black-market-monkey-meat-could-see-virus-hit-UK
 

Eating bush flesh is one of main ways Ebola is transmitted to humans and 7,500 tonnes of illegal meat enters the UK every year.

 

 

[F430murci]

Here's a potential global transmission route . . .
 

Black market demand for monkey meat could see deadly Ebola virus hit UK
 
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/494920/Ebola-Black-market-monkey-meat-could-see-virus-hit-UK
 

Eating bush flesh is one of main ways Ebola is transmitted to humans and 7,500 tonnes of illegal meat enters the UK every year.

 
 

Monkey meat??? Article says something about demand being to African descent individuals. Yet another wonderful benefit provided by migration. I suppose people picking up dead monkey caucuses off the jungle floor and finding that appetizing see it as a good idea to import it and buy it illegally in places like the UK.

Nothing like importing stupidity in the form of human to create such problems. Solution, mediately deport any imbeciles found with such black market monkey meat.

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The exotic meats are eaten by some sectors of African immigrants in Britain as a luxury dish and the trade has been defended on cultural grounds.

But the outbreak of Ebola in Guinea, which has killed more than 700 people, has raised concerns over the consumption of bush flesh.

A BBC investigation previously discovered the markets at Ridley Road, London sold giant rats among other smuggled meats.

It is known as a prime example of an area where black market meats are sold and is replicated all over the country.

Dr Yunes Teinaz, a former environment health official, warned the bush meat is sold "all over the country" and is a "huge" health risk.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/494920/Ebola-Black-market-monkey-meat-could-see-virus-hit-UK

[MJP]

^^ About as exotic as a used Big Mac.

[MJP]

Good article.

 

How Bad Is The Ebola Outbreak? The Worst Outbreak In History May Not Be As Bad As You Think

 

http://www.ibtimes.com/how-bad-ebola-outbreak-worst-outbreak-history-may-not-be-bad-you-think-charts-1646496

 

 

Okay, the epidemiology and pathology of Ebola is quite different to those well established diseases like Malaria and HIV/AIDS. The outbreak may well be in its infancy or it could suddenly burn out. No one really knows.

[MJP]

Now this is worth a read . . .

 

The Scariest Virus: Ebola Is Back, and It’s Worse Than Ever

 

http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/scariest-virus-ebola-back-worse-ever-87348/

 

I learned that Ebola isn’t a scary virus—it’s the scary virus.

IN 1994, RICHARD PRESTON, the New Yorker contributor who has written a number of books about infectious disease, commented, “Ebola does in 10 days what it takes AIDS 10 years to accomplish.”

At the least, this is the most virulent and efficient strain of Ebola we’ve ever seen. At worst, we’re witnessing the onset of a deadly mutation anticipated and feared for almost four decades.