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MJP:

Certainly dufferung views. Dr. Shaffner in the above article you cited earlier and in the below lives across the street three houses down. He is a stand up guy and is on the news channels all the time.

Does flu kill like 35,000 to 40,000 a year? Ebila is just a much more dramatic death, but it is not at all surprising how many cintracted virus reading the articles about how West African villages refuse medical care and remain in the community while infected.

Candidly, superbugs/MRSA scare me more from what I have seen representing hospitals and nursing homes for last 20 years. There is some really bad stuff out there.

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Vanderbilt expert on Ebola: Do not be alarmed

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2014/08/02/ebola-vanderbilt-cdc/13505673/
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MJP:

Certainly dufferung views. Dr. Shaffner in the above article you cited earlier and in the below lives across the street three houses down. He is a stand up guy and is on the news channels all the time.

Does flu kill like 35,000 to 40,000 a year? Ebila is just a much more dramatic death, but it is not at all surprising how many cintracted virus reading the articles about how West African villages refuse medical care and remain in the community while infected.

Candidly, superbugs/MRSA scare me more from what I have seen representing hospitals and nursing homes for last 20 years. There is some really bad stuff out there.

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Vanderbilt expert on Ebola: Do not be alarmed

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2014/08/02/ebola-vanderbilt-cdc/13505673/

 

Accoridng to the WHO website influenza kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people worldwide every year.
 

That's right - they have absolutely no idea how many die but it's up to about half a million on a bad year.

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The only known, inexpensive cure for Ebola medical doctors don't talk about as this science was not included in their education and practice.

This medical Director disagrees with medical doctors and her team has over the years saved many lives worldwide.

Everyone should research this Virus and Bacteria killer for themselves.

Excellent video.

http://youtu.be/D7wNfRCuOZE

I can feel the trolls coming already!

Watch the entire video and do extensive research as I have before anyone embarrasses themselves and discourages others from life saving science. I wouldn't be posting this if I hadn't done my homework.
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The only known, inexpensive cure for Ebola medical doctors don't talk about as this science was not included in their education and practice.

This medical Director disagrees with medical doctors and her team has over the years saved many lives worldwide.

Everyone should research this Virus and Bacteria killer for themselves.

Excellent video.

 

Watch the entire video and do extensive research as I have before anyone embarrasses themselves and discourages others from life saving science. I wouldn't be posting this if I hadn't done my homework.

 

More links.

 

http://www.nanosilve.../nanotech.asp#1

 

http://utopiasilver....nials/index.htm

 
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MJP:

Certainly dufferung views. Dr. Shaffner in the above article you cited earlier and in the below lives across the street three houses down. He is a stand up guy and is on the news channels all the time.

Does flu kill like 35,000 to 40,000 a year? Ebila is just a much more dramatic death, but it is not at all surprising how many cintracted virus reading the articles about how West African villages refuse medical care and remain in the community while infected.

Candidly, superbugs/MRSA scare me more from what I have seen representing hospitals and nursing homes for last 20 years. There is some really bad stuff out there.

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Vanderbilt expert on Ebola: Do not be alarmed

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2014/08/02/ebola-vanderbilt-cdc/13505673/

 
Accoridng to the WHO website influenza kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people worldwide every year.
 
That's right - they have absolutely no idea how many die but it's up to about half a million on a bad year.

Yes, thank you. I think my number was for US alone. Pretty alarming when you think about it.
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Okay, I pointed this out a day or so ago because I heard this on TV when Geibert and CDC officials were being interviewed about brining Brantly back home. NBC is just now picking up on it???

Nevertheless, looks like TKM-Ebola is not having a negative impact as far as human safety. The transfusion, however, may also be playing a role so difficult to say if it is the efficacy of TKM or the transfusion. Nevertheless, perhaps kill rate would be lower if West Africans would actually seek treatment rather than staying home and dying from illness.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/dr-kent-brantly-american-ebola-got-experimental-serum-group-says-n171681

This may be disappointing to doom and gloomers, but should be encouraging to those hopeful that this thi g can be contained or brought under control with proper care and supervision.
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Ebola usually burns itself out because it is so contagious.   Unlike HIV and other viruses, this one kills rather quickly.   There probably isn't a vector animal in places like the US for this virus.   So it probably isn't excessively dangerous to allow patience with the disease in.   

 

That said, viruses, in order to live and spread more easily can mutate and if the incubation period becomes longer and the method of transmission a little easier, then it could be a threat to the world population, but this is unlikely.   

 

It is important to remember , it is also sexually transmitted.    

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I don't find it reassuring what the UK border protection staff are saying about not having any training?

 

Ebola outbreak: suspected case at British immigration centre

 

 

An asylum seeker was suspected of having the deadly Ebola virus after developing symptoms within days of arriving in Britain from Libera, it has emerged.  The  incident shows how easy it would be for the deadly disease to enter Britain through illegal channels.

Border staff at UK airports also claim they have not been trained to deal with suspected cases coming into the country.

Major British hubs like Heathrow have failed to tighten procedures ohmy.png even through airports in Kenya, Ethiopia and South Africa have introduced beefed up screening.

 

 

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11003779/Ebola-outbreak-suspected-case-at-British-immigration-centre.html

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MJP:

Certainly dufferung views. Dr. Shaffner in the above article you cited earlier and in the below lives across the street three houses down. He is a stand up guy and is on the news channels all the time.

Does flu kill like 35,000 to 40,000 a year? Ebila is just a much more dramatic death, but it is not at all surprising how many cintracted virus reading the articles about how West African villages refuse medical care and remain in the community while infected.

Candidly, superbugs/MRSA scare me more from what I have seen representing hospitals and nursing homes for last 20 years. There is some really bad stuff out there.

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Vanderbilt expert on Ebola: Do not be alarmed

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2014/08/02/ebola-vanderbilt-cdc/13505673/

 

Accoridng to the WHO website influenza kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people worldwide every year.
 

That's right - they have absolutely no idea how many die but it's up to about half a million on a bad year.

 

 

The difference is the mortality rate... 60% of the people that get the flu do not die... 

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MJP:

Certainly dufferung views. Dr. Shaffner in the above article you cited earlier and in the below lives across the street three houses down. He is a stand up guy and is on the news channels all the time.

Does flu kill like 35,000 to 40,000 a year? Ebila is just a much more dramatic death, but it is not at all surprising how many cintracted virus reading the articles about how West African villages refuse medical care and remain in the community while infected.

Candidly, superbugs/MRSA scare me more from what I have seen representing hospitals and nursing homes for last 20 years. There is some really bad stuff out there.

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Vanderbilt expert on Ebola: Do not be alarmed

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2014/08/02/ebola-vanderbilt-cdc/13505673/

 
Accoridng to the WHO website influenza kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people worldwide every year.
 
That's right - they have absolutely no idea how many die but it's up to about half a million on a bad year.
 
 
The difference is the mortality rate... 60% of the people that get the flu do not die... 

I am sore that is a confronting fact to the 250,000 + a year that dies from the flu.
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These poor people.  This all has to be very scary.

 

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Troops deployed in Sierra Leone, Liberia to halt Ebola spread

 

Hundreds of troops deployed in Sierra Leone and Liberia on Monday under an emergency plan to fight the worst outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus, which has killed more than 826 people across West Africa.

 

Panic among local communities, which have attacked health workers and threatened to burn down isolation wards, prompted regional governments to impose tough measures last week, including the closure of schools and quarantine of the remote forest region hardest hit by the disease.

 

The hemorrhagic virus, which has no known cure, has infected more than 1,400 people in its first outbreak in West Africa, straining the capacity of under-funded health systems and aid groups to breaking point in one of the world's poorest regions.

 

Despite pleas for help from aid groups, the number of cases is also creeping steadily higher in Guinea, where the outbreak originated in February. And Nigeria's megacity of Lagos on Monday recorded its second case of Ebola in a doctor who treated U.S. victim Patrick Sawyer.

 

Long convoys of military trucks ferried troops and medical workers on Monday to Sierra Leone's far east, where the density of cases is highest. Military spokesman Colonel Michael Samoura said the operation, code named Octopus, involved around 750 military personnel.

 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/chi-ebola-outbreak-nigeria-20140804,0,5159091.story

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TKM-Ebola may not be working so well after all as Writebol has taken a turn for the worse since being administered the serum.  Dr. Brantly received the transfusion and apparently gave up the vial of TKM-Ebola for Writebol so perhaps the antibodies from the transfusion were the key.

 

This may not be encouraging news for those hoping that the vaccine would work.

 

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Efforts have been made to help the two patients with the means available in Liberia - and just hours before the flight to Atlanta was revealed, father-of-two Brantly gave up the single vial of an experimental treatment sent over from the U.S. in order that Writebol - a grandmother and longtime Christian missionary - could receive it instead.

 

Brantly received a transfusion of the blood of a 14-year-old Ebola survivor who he personally helped to treat. Giving blood transfusions from survivors to still suffering Ebola patients is an established, though not nearly proven, treatment for the largely untreatable disease.

 

However, on Thursday charity SIM said in a statement that Mrs Writebol's condition had worsened, despite the serum.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715028/God-call-life-U-S-doctor-infected-Ebola-explains-WHY-moved-family-Liberia-powerful-sermon-revealed-hes-improving.html#ixzz39RMLxXPK

 

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Is it any wonder this area has outbreaks of illnesses like Ebola.  Incredibly sad stuff.  Is it any wonder why Americans are more likely to survive here after seeing this?

 

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Ebola has run rampant throughout West African countries such as Liberia because the medical situation there is so dire to begin with, according to an American doctor who leads humanitarian missions into the region.

 

“The health care system and infrastructure are very poor,” said Dr. Anne Marie Beddoe, a gynecologist with Mt. Sinai Hospital in New York City. "Handling an outbreak of this magnitude only highlights the deficiencies in personnel and equipment.”

 

Liberia, a country of four million people, has only 37 practicing doctors, according to Beddoe and health officials.

 

Beddoe said that when she and her husband, Dr. Peter Dottino, who is also a gynecologist, took their first trip to Liberia in 2008 they were shocked to see the state of the medical facilities there. The JFK Medical Center in the capital city of Sinkor, once considered a center of excellence in West Africa, was left outdated and crumbling after withstanding a 30-year civil war.

 

“Most of the hospital’s windows were broken, the paint was peeling and walls were crumbling,” Beddoe noted. “In the entire hospital there was one working bathroom and a few functional sinks on the patient floors.”

 

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She also noted there is only one practicing gynecologist in the entire country.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/liberias-medical-conditions-dire-ebola-outbreak/story?id=24835654

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Patient at Mount Sinai Has Ebola-Like Symptoms, Hospital Says

 

A man who had recently been to West Africa went to the emergency room at Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan late Sunday with symptoms consistent with Ebola — high fever and gastrointestinal problems, the hospital reported on Monday.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/health/patient-at-mount-sinai-has-ebola-like-symptoms-hospital-says.html?ref=nyregion&_r=2

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Patient at Mount Sinai Has Ebola-Like Symptoms, Hospital Says
 
A man who had recently been to West Africa went to the emergency room at Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan late Sunday with symptoms consistent with Ebola high fever and gastrointestinal problems, the hospital reported on Monday.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/health/patient-at-mount-sinai-has-ebola-like-symptoms-hospital-says.html?ref=nyregion&_r=2


This is what the Donald needs to be worried about, not the medical workers being monitored and kept in isolation the entire trip here.
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I don't find it reassuring what the UK border protection staff are saying about not having any training?

 

Ebola outbreak: suspected case at British immigration centre

 

 

An asylum seeker was suspected of having the deadly Ebola virus after developing symptoms within days of arriving in Britain from Libera, it has emerged.  The  incident shows how easy it would be for the deadly disease to enter Britain through illegal channels.

Border staff at UK airports also claim they have not been trained to deal with suspected cases coming into the country.

Major British hubs like Heathrow have failed to tighten procedures ohmy.png even through airports in Kenya, Ethiopia and South Africa have introduced beefed up screening.

 

 

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11003779/Ebola-outbreak-suspected-case-at-British-immigration-centre.html

 

 

 

" Border staff at UK airports also claim they have not been trained to deal with suspected cases coming into the country "

 



 

 

and because of this I would have thought   British Airways should do the same as Emirates

 

 

 

British Airways, which offers flights to Liberia via Sierra Leone, said that the services are operating as normal, though safety and security are the top priority and the company is continuing to monitor the situation closely.blink.png

 

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-04/emirates-alone-in-ebola-shutdown-as-leading-carriers-keep-flying.html

 

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Saudi Arabian man suspected of contracting deadly disease
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sierraleone/11013115/Saudi-Arabian-man-suspected-of-contracting-deadly-disease.html
 
 
New York, Jeddah and also Wales of all places. All 'suspected' cases. Going to be a lot of suspected cases.


On TV news, saying NY not likely have Ebola. Blood test should confirm in next 24 hours.

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