Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty

[Lite Beer]

Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty

BANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission ruled unanimously that ex-Premier Yingluck Shinawatra was guilty in the rice-pledging scheme and the rice sales.

The ruling came a few hours after the National Council for Peace and Order (NACC) allowed Ms Yinglulck for a 20-day travel to Europe with her son from July 21-August 10.

NACC spokesman Vicha Mahakhun said at the urgent press conference Thursday that the NACC board has resolved unanimously by 7-0 to fault the former prime minister of committing malfeasance in office in accordance with Article 157 of the Criminal Code for her failure to properly oversee the rice pledging scheme, and Article 123/1 of the Ant-Corruption Law for power abuse, thus resulting in widespread corruption.

He said that the NACC will submit details of its investigation and recommendation to the Office of the Attorney-General to bring her to trial in the Supreme Court ‘s Criminal Division for Persons Holding Political Positions.

He said the damages from the wrongdoings in the cases were over 500 billion baht.

He also made clear that the press conference today of the NACC was not stemmed from report that the NACC has given green light for the ex-premier to leave the country while at the same time it also has not asked the NACC to stop her visit as it depends on the consideration of the military junta.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/graft-buster-rules-yingluck-guilty/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=graft-buster-rules-yingluck-guilty

-- Thai PBS 2014-07-17

[kartman]

I think a short trip up north and a boat across the Mekong might be called for.

[djjamie]

And that could be the quickest the Junta have approved and then denied yinglucks request to travel overseas.

If it is still granted then maybe the Junta are sending a subtle message that they want her permanently out of the country.

Edited July 17, 2014 by djjamie

[mrtoad]

If she leaves the country, very much doubt she will return.

[Soutpeel]

If she leaves the country, very much doubt she will return.

Yeap tripping the light fantastic in gay Paris or wearing a burka and living next door to her camel herder brother... me thinks

[Songhua]

Well timed by all concerned. That's bye bye Yingluck then.

[WhizBang]

Ruled guilty of malfeasance and given a free pass out of the country, with son, no less.

Yup, 100% guaranteed she is not coming back.

Gotta say, the junta just went down (a lot) in my opinion of them, if they do not revoke her free pass immediately.

Let's hope they at least seize all of the Shinawatra assets still in Thailand.

[DLock]

If she leaves the country, very much doubt she will return.

agree...but will they fall for the same trick twice and actually let her leave now?

"I promise I'll come back" - Thaksin when he went to the Olympics.

Make her leave her son as a guarantee.

[ukrules]

Ruled guilty of malfeasance and given a free pass out of the country, with son, no less.

Yup, 100% guaranteed she is not coming back.

Gotta say, the junta just went down (a lot) in my opinion of them, if they do not revoke her free pass immediately.

Let's hope they at least seize all of the Shinawatra assets still in Thailand.

Arresting the former prime minister is a giant red flag which would be noticed and likely responded to by the international community.

This development appears to me to be a giant face saving solution for everyone involved.

[96tehtarp]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

[metisdead]

An off topic nonsense post has been removed as well as a reply.

[Shurup]

Arresting the former prime minister is a giant red flag which would be noticed and likely responded to by the international community.

This development appears to me to be a giant face saving solution for everyone involved.

Don't think they care what international community thinks, they've already proven that.

[96tehtarp]

Arresting the former prime minister is a giant red flag which would be noticed and likely responded to by the international community.

This development appears to me to be a giant face saving solution for everyone involved.

Don't think they care what international community thinks, they've already proven that.

Right. The Chinese don't care.

[Siripon]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

The trial comes after the decision by the NACC to indict her.

That is the next stage.

If she is innocent of negligence, she should return after her shopping trip to clear her name.

She has the money to hire the best lawyers.

[UbonRatch]

As I said earlier, a very clever move. She'll be allowed out, passport THEN cancelled, and Dubai there she goes for the grace of cow-pats.

The rest of the family will soon follow suit... when the clamp down on Shin corp holdings are closed down in LOS.

[Robby nz]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

Read the OP again.

She will be given a trial and a chance to defend herself with as many witnesses as she likes in the Supreme Court ‘s Criminal Division for Persons Holding Political Positions.

Assuming she appears.

The NACC could not pass on the information they have gathered from their investigations without coming to a conclusion, that could only be one of two things, guilty or not.

Same as the police in other countries investigating crime, they must come to a conclusion of guilt before passing a defendant on to a court for trial.

[ratcatcher]

Ruled guilty of malfeasance and given a free pass out of the country, with son, no less.

Yup, 100% guaranteed she is not coming back.

Gotta say, the junta just went down (a lot) in my opinion of them, if they do not revoke her free pass immediately.

Let's hope they at least seize all of the Shinawatra assets still in Thailand.

Arresting the former prime minister is a giant red flag which would be noticed and likely responded to by the international community.

This development appears to me to be a giant face saving solution for everyone involved.

These two comments above seem to me to be wise.

Allowing Yingluck to leave shows the NCPO in a better light than if they act in a vindictive manner. Persecuting her and her son at this point is unwise and will only add fuel to the fires of righteous indignation by the western governments.

We all know she is guilty of some degree of malfeasance with regard to her governance over the last three years. Better the Shinawatras are out of Thailand than in. She may well return, that is her option, but at least, like Thaksin before, she has the choice. What she does with that choice will be a sign to her followers and supporters just how much she cares for them and her country. We will know the result of this action in three weeks when/if she returns.

General Prayuth has been sensible and played a good card on this move.

[96tehtarp]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

The trial comes after the decision by the NACC to indict her.

That is the next stage.

If she is innocent of negligence, she should return after her shopping trip to clear her name.

She has the money to hire the best lawyers.

From the headline in the OP

"Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty"

She will get a fair trail because everyone including her lawyers know these charges are not politically motivated.

How could they possibly be politically motivated when politics has been outlawed by the junta?

Edited July 17, 2014 by 96tehtarp

[96tehtarp]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

Read the OP again.

She will be given a trial and a chance to defend herself with as many witnesses as she likes in the Supreme Court ‘s Criminal Division for Persons Holding Political Positions.

Assuming she appears.

The NACC could not pass on the information they have gathered from their investigations without coming to a conclusion, that could only be one of two things, guilty or not.

Same as the police in other countries investigating crime, they must come to a conclusion of guilt before passing a defendant on to a court for trial.

"Read the OP again."

OK start with the heading...

Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty

Of course I know there will be a fair and just process that will definitely not be politically motivated. That's why she is going to return after visiting her brother in Paris to answer the charges.

Edited July 17, 2014 by 96tehtarp

[Lite Beer]

NACC decides to have Yingluck arraigned on rice-pledging charges

BANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission on Thursday resolved to ask the Attorney General to arraign former premier Yingluck Shinawatra on charges of dereliction of duty on rice-pledging scheme and caused damage of Bt500 billion to the country.

The NACC will forward the case to the Attorney General next week who will charge Yingluck in Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Persons Holding Political Position.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/NACC-decides-to-have-Yingluck-arraigned-on-rice-pl-30238765.html

-- The Nation 2014-07-17

[Misterwhisper]

I think the strategy of the NCPO is actually quite simple:

They allow her to leave the country for a "temporary trip", from which pretty everyone with a brain knows that she most probably won't return. Meanwhile, NACC rules that she is guilty. Case moves on to the court. If YL does indeed return, she'll have to go on trial. If she does not return, it shows (also to the world community) that she is guilty. Only a guilty person would flee the country.

But when she leaves on the 21st, please kindly make sure to subject her 20+ suitcases to a thorough search. She has drained enough from this country - and there is plenty left in assorted bank accounts already established overseas for her and her big brother to buy up Montenegro two times over. Yingluck may leave. Her son, too. Her jewelry may not. If 19 suitcases are found to only contain Mama noodles to sustain her during her 20-day vacation, let her leave in peace.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Misterwhisper

[Siripon]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

The trial comes after the decision by the NACC to indict her.

That is the next stage.

If she is innocent of negligence, she should return after her shopping trip to clear her name.

She has the money to hire the best lawyers.

From the headline in the OP

"Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty"

She will get a fair trail because everyone including her lawyers know these charges are not politically motivated.

How could they possibly be politically motivated when politics has been outlawed by the junta?

96tehtarp, this is simply the sensationalist headline on a website. Most newspapers and websites involved with news, love headline grabbing titles.

They are simply saying the first stage of investigation has decided there is weight to the accusation.

Now it's up to the judges to prove the case or not.

[96tehtarp]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

The trial comes after the decision by the NACC to indict her.

That is the next stage.

If she is innocent of negligence, she should return after her shopping trip to clear her name.

She has the money to hire the best lawyers.

From the headline in the OP

"Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty"

She will get a fair trail because everyone including her lawyers know these charges are not politically motivated.

How could they possibly be politically motivated when politics has been outlawed by the junta?

96tehtarp, this is simply the sensationalist headline on a website. Most newspapers and websites involved with news, love headline grabbing titles.

They are simply saying the first stage of investigation has decided there is weight to the accusation.

Now it's up to the judges to prove the case or not.

Sensationalist headlines are quite often politically motivated. It's called spin.

[gamini]

This determination of guilt without trial is definitely not politically motivated.

The trial comes after the decision by the NACC to indict her.

That is the next stage.

If she is innocent of negligence, she should return after her shopping trip to clear her name.

She has the money to hire the best lawyers.

From the headline in the OP

"Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty"

She will get a fair trail because everyone including her lawyers know these charges are not politically motivated.

How could they possibly be politically motivated when politics has been outlawed by the junta?

what a stupid and childish remark!

[nong38]

Is there a spare room in Dubai or similar?

End of the Shinawtra dynasty?

[96tehtarp]

From the headline in the OP

"Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty"

She will get a fair trail because everyone including her lawyers know these charges are not politically motivated.

How could they possibly be politically motivated when politics has been outlawed by the junta?

what a stupid and childish remark!

I' agree with you completely, and am glad to see you can read between the lines.

[givenall]

If she leaves the country, very much doubt she will return.

Yeap tripping the light fantastic in gay Paris or wearing a burka and living next door to her camel herder brother... me thinks

I guess the price Thailand has to pay is to elect every member ok Thaksin family to PM first and they for sure will be guilty of something (is in their gene) so they can go out of Thailand permanently

[Siripon]

From the headline in the OP

"Graft buster rules Yingluck guilty"

She will get a fair trail because everyone including her lawyers know these charges are not politically motivated.

How could they possibly be politically motivated when politics has been outlawed by the junta?

what a stupid and childish remark!

I' agree with you completely, and am glad to see you can read between the lines.

Sensationalist headlines are an everyday occurrence on websites, otherwise viewer numbers may drop, the owners surmise.

The fact is Yingluck has every opportunity to answer the accusations.

Will she come back to prove that, as head of the committee on the rice policy she wasn't negligent in its massive losses?

[sweatalot]

Arresting the former prime minister is a giant red flag which would be noticed and likely responded to by the international community.

This development appears to me to be a giant face saving solution for everyone involved.

Don't think they care what international community thinks, they've already proven that.

And they are right

[Thai at Heart]

I think the strategy of the NCPO is actually quite simple:

They allow her to leave the country for a "temporary trip", from which pretty everyone with a brain knows that she most probably won't return. Meanwhile, NACC rules that she is guilty. Case moves on to the court. If YL does indeed return, she'll have to go on trial. If she does not return, it shows (also to the world community) that she is guilty. Only a guilty person would flee the country.

But when she leaves on the 21st, please kindly make sure to subject her 20+ suitcases to a thorough search. She has drained enough from this country - and there is plenty left in assorted bank accounts already established overseas for her and her big brother to buy up Montenegro two times over. Yingluck may leave. Her son, too. Her jewelry may not. If 19 suitcases are found to only contain Mama noodles to sustain her during her 20-day vacation, let her leave in peace.

Whether she is really guilty or not, her story will be exactly the same as Thaksin.

She ran because she couldn't get a fair trial. This story will run and run.

Quite a neat conclusion though. The shins are sent on their way, and the reform/cleansing can continue.