Tao Diver Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Hi. A few days ago my computer just wasn't behaving as it normally does. I have been running Windows 7 Ultimate with the MS updates running and using Spybot search and destroy, antimalwaresbytes and a paid for Eset smart security. I run them all on a regular basis. I first ran spybot and it came back clear, then eset and again clear so tried to run antimalwaresbytes. Firstly it wasn't already running like it normally is and when I tried to start it it refused to open. My next attempt was to try a system restore. It went through the motions of doing a restore but upon the restart it said it was unable to complete the restore. That tells me there is something there for sure. The next thing was to try it from safe mode but when I pressed the F8 button to get into the safe mode menu I was just shown a screen with a prompt that said " Grub " None of the commands I tried worked. My internet was also very unstable and wouldn't connect to networks it normally would. I finally got into safe mode from the msconfig prompt and did a restore but it is still not allowing the antimalware to start. I tried the Chameleon download from their site and that also failed to get it running. Anyone have any other ideas ? Are there any good online malware scanners I can try ? The final option is the format and reinstall but want this only as a real last option. Any help or tips hugely appreciated Cheers guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 YAC is good http://www.yac.mx/ its malware cleaner is superb and I have replaced ccleaner with it .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Is this a machine You set up, a 'shop' set up, or it came set up this way from the factory? GRUB is a Unix/Linux drive-based boot loader. Normally you'll only find it on drives that have Unix/Linux, or systems that need to boot into multiple OSes. Also, did you see if other dates were available for System Restore? Earlier backups might not be corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Diver Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Thanks I have downloaded it and will give it a spin tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Try Malwarebytes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 YAC is good http://www.yac.mx/ its malware cleaner is superb and I have replaced ccleaner with it .. CCleaner don't remove malware....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) If you have a "copy" W7 you will always have a prob. Try Malwarebytes free and SuperAntiSpyeware free for starters.... PS, download adw cleaner.......That works to get rid of crap.. Edited August 12, 2014 by transam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Diver Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Is this a machine You set up, a 'shop' set up, or it came set up this way from the factory? GRUB is a Unix/Linux drive-based boot loader. Normally you'll only find it on drives that have Unix/Linux, or systems that need to boot into multiple OSes. Also, did you see if other dates were available for System Restore? Earlier backups might not be corrupted. Hi Yes I tried several of the back up dates and on each one they restored everything but antimalwarebyte. Even their own Chameleon software failed to bypass it and start the program It is certainly a stubborn one whatever it is. Cheers again guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 GRUB is a Unix/Linux drive-based boot loader. Normally you'll only find it on drives that have Unix/Linux, or systems that need to boot into multiple OSes. You'll also find it on 'iffy' copies of Windows 7. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Diver Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 That wouldn't surprise me I did though pay supposedly for a proper copy. Has worked great up to the last few days. There was a small partition so maybe it was pre loaded with Unix ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 That wouldn't surprise me I did though pay supposedly for a proper copy. Has worked great up to the last few days. There was a small partition so maybe it was pre loaded with Unix ? I have that T-shirt. try the stuff I mentioned, if it don't work then you will have to pay for "genuine" W7. I did and all OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Diver Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 If you have a "copy" W7 you will always have a prob. Try Malwarebytes free and SuperAntiSpyeware free for starters.... PS, download adw cleaner.......That works to get rid of crap.. Downloaded and ready to try tonight. Cheers chaps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 That wouldn't surprise me I did though pay supposedly for a proper copy. Has worked great up to the last few days. There was a small partition so maybe it was pre loaded with Unix ? I have that T-shirt. try the stuff I mentioned, if it don't work then you will have to pay for "genuine" W7. I did and all OK. Pay for a genuine W7!? I thought that was frowned upon in Thailand...a person could get in trouble. Don't tell nobody, as I don't want to get in trouble, but I paid for my genuine W7 and W8.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I am always surprised folks buy a non genuine W7 when you can download a genuine W7 from Microsoft themsleves Of course you need to burn the image to CD etc & come up with a valid product key when installing it. But it is genuine W7 any version you need in any language http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325/page-2#post-124821 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiu-Jitsu Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Does this machine have a brand name and model number? If not, exactly which Motherboard is contained within? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) YAC is good http://www.yac.mx/ its malware cleaner is superb and I have replaced ccleaner with it .. CCleaner don't remove malware....... Re-read my note again .. I never said ccleaner was anything to do with malware or the cleaning of malware .... Edited August 12, 2014 by joncl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogNo1 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Norton (Symantec) has a virus and malware killer that you can download from their website and burn to a DVD. You then start the machine from the DVD and run the utility. That's the only way to remove some stubborn types of malware. If you decide to reinstall, why not move up to Windows 8.1? You could reformat your drive from a Linux OS such as Ubuntu on a DVD and delete that Linux partition, then create one single partition for your entire drive space. Actually, if you just delete the Linux partition, Win 8.1 will offer to format the drive before it installs. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novanova Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Combofix has a good name when it comes to stubborn viruses. But, as mentioned above, you may well advised to boot from a CD or USB stick... see this: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/bootable-antivirus-rescue-cd-windows-free-download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 YAC is good http://www.yac.mx/ its malware cleaner is superb and I have replaced ccleaner with it .. CCleaner don't remove malware....... Re-read my note again .. I never said ccleaner was anything to do with malware or the cleaning of malware .... Sorry chum but thats how it reads to me. But we ccleaned it up eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonarax Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Avast and AVG all have plugins to help prevent malware. Run it along side ABP plugin. If you have a "copy" W7 you will always have a prob. Try Malwarebytes free and SuperAntiSpyeware free for starters.... PS, download adw cleaner.......That works to get rid of crap.. Pirated copies of Windows have no effect on virus/malware security.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Avast and AVG all have plugins to help prevent malware. Run it along side ABP plugin. If you have a "copy" W7 you will always have a prob. Try Malwarebytes free and SuperAntiSpyeware free for starters.... PS, download adw cleaner.......That works to get rid of crap.. Pirated copies of Windows have no effect on virus/malware security.. For sure I am noooooooooo PC expert, my desktop is now about 3 years old and kept being attacked even with the anti this and that programs, I had another two (copies) Windows fitted, similar problems cos the programs came with embedded crap. Soooooooooo. One of our eminent PC guru's here on Tv installed a 100% Windows 7 for me, never a problem since using anti thingy stuff l mentioned above, for a year now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happynthailand Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 ok,try "dr.web cureit" free program works good and lasts a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailampang2012 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I just "cleaned" a friend's laptop with AVAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jpinx Posted August 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2014 obviously the Linux bootloader works, so just install linux :) Ubuntu is a good starting place,,,,, ;) No viruses in Linux ;) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Diver Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I tried the YAC but that installed loads of other spyware and took me hours to clear. Have tried all the others and still can't get antimalwares to start so it is still there somewhere. Edited August 13, 2014 by Tao Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 D/L avast free edition then run the boot time anti virus scanner, schedule it & restart, that scans before windows kicks in & normally fools the anti-virus, however if you are running a dodgy copy of windows it may well delete the "crack" that prevents microsoft declaring it an illegal copy which is a hassle... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabdog Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Personally I would just format it. Fixes everything, every time! I keep all my data / programs on a separate partition / hdd so if I need to reformat it's as painless as possible. Only takes an hour to reinstall windows and system drivers etc then I'm good to go. :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiu-Jitsu Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I tried the YAC but that installed loads of other spyware and took me hours to clear. Have tried all the others and still can't get antimalwares to start so it is still there somewhere. I asked a simple question in post #15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novanova Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Tao: I posted this earlier: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/bootable-antivirus-rescue-cd-windows-free-download DID YOU READ IT? Stop running some rubbish that some casual PC user tells you about. BOOT OFF A CD OR USB STICK AS DESCRIBED IN THAT ARTICLE That way, whatever there is that is bad on your system will not load, and the programs described can do their work If you have problems after that, run Combofix. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/ If you still have problems, IM me... I have been in IT since 1984. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiu-Jitsu Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Tao: I posted this earlier: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/bootable-antivirus-rescue-cd-windows-free-download DID YOU READ IT? Stop running some rubbish that some casual PC user tells you about. BOOT OFF A CD OR USB STICK AS DESCRIBED IN THAT ARTICLE That way, whatever there is that is bad on your system will not load, and the programs described can do their work If you have problems after that, run Combofix. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/ If you still have problems, IM me... I have been in IT since 1984. Then you shouldn't allow a novice to run ComboFix unsupervised. Will you be analysing the log produced? Please note that running this program without supervision can cause your computer to not operate correctly. Therefore only run this program at the request of an experienced helper. If not, the exercise is likely a waste of time. Do the job properly from the beginning. If you are in IT, you would likely have an clean and up to date image available that you could apply. Backup and start from a clean slate(that includes a clean and properly installed OS). Install updates and applications and then create an image that can be applied in the event of failure. Macrium Free can create such an image. Right now you have no idea as to the provenance of the Operating System installed to the machine. First things first. You are just propagating the idea of the one click software fix....no different from the advice of the 'casual user'. The evidence of a GRUB Bootloader likely points to the existence of a Loader being used to activate the system. This system needs an overhaul from the initial install going forwards. The OP cannot even answer a simple question about the PC, yet you are sending them to ComboFix without even the most cursory instruction. Edited August 13, 2014 by Jiu-Jitsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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