Russian tourist found dead in Phuket hotel with 7 stab wounds

[bubblegum]

How do any of us know if the stab wounds were pre or post mortem? If post, the suicide is less ridiculous. I'm just saying, you can't determine anything from what you read in the news because it's an incomplete picture of the crime scene which I am sure the reporter was not allowed into. Maybe the police used the tactic of reporting the incident as a suicide hoping their suspect would be less like to flee hearing that. Hmmm. Jeez you guys got it all figured out already and the body isn't even cold.

No we didn;t get it figured out. The BIB walked in the room and saw a farang stabbed to death. Wounds on the arms and stabbed 7 times in the chest. The BIB came to the conclusion it was suicide. We Thai Visa members are not saying the cause of death but only disputing the BIB who have signed it off purely because it is a farang.

Been working as a cop for over 20 yrs and these idiots are beyond stupidity. A police Officer can not and will never determine the cause of death as they are not qualified . Police may release the cause of death after a coronial investigation. They can only say it is suspicious or non suspicious but give no details.

Having worked with the BIB on exchange in both Australia and Thailand I have some insight on how they work. Took 2 fairly highly ranking Thai police officers a Major and Colonel to a fatal collision in Melbourne Australia. The offending driver survived and they said to me, the other guy is dead so why not blame him, why do Australian police make so much work for themselves when can sign off now.

Looks to me you'r not much better, conclusions from 1 news report that is at least doubtful and you have it all figured out.

[biplanebluey]

With all the cameras any hotels have around , I guess it will be easy to see with whom this guy came back before his death ....

If they are working YES

[connda]

Police concluded that he committed suicide.

YMBFJ.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!! This has to be a perverse joke.

Edited August 13, 2014 by connda

[Gassit]

Amazing that so many on Thai Visa are CSI experts theorising on what is at best a sketchy journalistic (= non expert) report.

My theory is that maybe the Thai police got it right - given they have far more details than anyone else in this forum.

[NamKangMan]

There is a possibility this guy committed suicide, but surely that determination can not solely be based on the crime scene, in this case.

There should be an investigation. Many questions must be answered, before the case is closed as a suicide.

Such questions as:

Has he attempted suicide before?

Does he have a history of depression?

Was anyone else in the room just prior?

Who else has access to his room?

What is his recent relationship status - had he broken up with someone?

Where did the knife come from?

Were drugs/alcohol in his system?

Had he contacted family recently, in a distressed state?

Had he made any unusually large financial transactions lately, particularly to family, or for property here?

What was his demeanor on the day - did anyone notice unusual behaviour?

Is anything missing from his property - could robbery be a motive?

Was he involved in any business dealings here?

etc etc etc etc

Answers to at least these questions should be sort by way of a police investigation before suicide is determined as the cause of death.

Edited August 13, 2014 by NamKangMan

[connda]

Committed suicide?

Heck, anyone who has watched one season of CSI or Criminal Minds could piece this case together better then that.

Slash marks on arms = defensive wounds

Seven stab wounds to the torso = murder

[Deacon Bell]

Probably commited self harm (cutting his arms), then in a fit of suicidal depression stabbed himself in the chest as much as he could.

RiP.

[confused american 48]

wounds on the arms would be a defensive wound from fight off the attacker a suicide would not stab him delf 7 times in the chest lets all get real he was murdered by who !!!!!! is the real question

[FredNL]

An opion of a regular Thai

Farang dead? No problem !!

Farang dead with 7 stab wounds? Must have been suicide !!

Russian dead? Who cares !!

[Yann55]

The only rational explanation would be : he was suicided

Edited August 13, 2014 by Yann55

[harrycallahan]

What if he didn't discover the meat and two veg until after the deed? Then in disgust took to himself with the knife. No I'm not serious.

[EBlair48]

Probably commited self harm (cutting his arms), then in a fit of suicidal depression stabbed himself in the chest as much as he could.

RiP.

I'd actually theorize it was the opposite. Without knowing anything about the depth of the chest wounds, were they superficial or severe , but the long slice to the inner forearm as PG reports is going to take the blood pressure down rapidly.

Terrible way to go

Seems the police are not actually making any declarations as of yet. Why would they?

http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Police-search-Phuket-ladyboy-Russian-tourist-slashed/32531#ad-image-0

Police have not ruled out murder or suicide, Maj Peerasak confirmed.

Edited August 13, 2014 by EBlair48

[LivinginKata]

off topic post and the off topic reply removed - no need for members bickering.

[northengr]

Maybe Putin will send a Convoy of "aid" to thailand too, to protect russian speakers

[atsiii]

So much for the revamping and reforming of the Thai police. He may as well have committed suicide by repeatedly beating himself over the head with a blunt object.

[TheWizardofRnR]

How do you stab yourself that many times ,to commit suicide?

Maybe he had a Battery powered knife ,that just did't stop til the batteries died too !

Great detective work ,ya think ?

[NamKangMan]

Maybe Putin will send a Convoy of "aid" to thailand too, to protect russian speakers

He already has. They are here woking illegally here and under cover.

Edited August 13, 2014 by NamKangMan

[NamKangMan]

For those who do not think it possible, and I am not saying this happened in this case, but taking one's life with a knife to the stomach has been around for centuries in Japanese culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

Edited August 13, 2014 by NamKangMan

[tingtongteesood]

He got the gashes on his arms defending himself from himself did he ? Or do they mean he slit his wrists and it didn't work so he stabbed himself 7 times in the chest instead ? Seems very silly to me.....

[thairowe]

Examining the body - identified as that of a 32-year-old Russian from the Siberian city of Yakutsk - Pol Lt Col Teerasak Boonsang and forensics officers found the victim had deep gashes on both arms and seven stab wounds in the chest.
Police concluded that he committed suicide.

OK, that would be defencive wounds on the arms which means MURDER!!

[Stokakrishna]

not a samurai...

[hawthorne]

Sad story and a terrible way to go. RIP

[lee b]

With all the cameras any hotels have around , I guess it will be easy to see with whom this guy came back before his death ....

Sir camera no work, meter broken

[Bender]

the foreign embassy, along with the travel guide book should give a strong warning against traveling to this sickos country.

What disturb me the most, its not the high rate criminality. But its the fact as a foreign victim here, you will never get justice.

Police will always put the blame on foreigner, truelly disgusting! This country deserve all the bashing that we read everyday on tv.

Edited August 13, 2014 by Bender

[Malthus101]

"forensics officers found the victim had deep gashes on both arms and seven stab wounds in the chest.

Police concluded that he committed suicide."

LOL. Police murder 101.

[Malthus101]

For those who do not think it possible, and I am not saying this happened in this case, but taking one's life with a knife to the stomach has been around for centuries in Japanese culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

** Warning - genius alert above **

[Thai Travel Bug]

Oh here we go again suicide??? Would one really go and do this to take ones own life?? Seems very odd to me.

When I ran a car dealership in Australia, we had a man come in accompanied by a carer to buy a new and expensive vehicle. The purchaser was obviously under the influence of

anti depression medication, and after signing the contract, continued on to tell us his story. He had attempted suicide a few weeks prior, and had been in a very depressed state.

He lifted his shirt to show me 32 self inflicted knife wounds in his upper body, chest and stomach. An awful way to attempt to kill yourself, but from what I understand, it is common.

[chooka]

How do any of us know if the stab wounds were pre or post mortem? If post, the suicide is less ridiculous. I'm just saying, you can't determine anything from what you read in the news because it's an incomplete picture of the crime scene which I am sure the reporter was not allowed into. Maybe the police used the tactic of reporting the incident as a suicide hoping their suspect would be less like to flee hearing that. Hmmm. Jeez you guys got it all figured out already and the body isn't even cold.

No we didn;t get it figured out. The BIB walked in the room and saw a farang stabbed to death. Wounds on the arms and stabbed 7 times in the chest. The BIB came to the conclusion it was suicide. We Thai Visa members are not saying the cause of death but only disputing the BIB who have signed it off purely because it is a farang.

Been working as a cop for over 20 yrs and these idiots are beyond stupidity. A police Officer can not and will never determine the cause of death as they are not qualified . Police may release the cause of death after a coronial investigation. They can only say it is suspicious or non suspicious but give no details.

Having worked with the BIB on exchange in both Australia and Thailand I have some insight on how they work. Took 2 fairly highly ranking Thai police officers a Major and Colonel to a fatal collision in Melbourne Australia. The offending driver survived and they said to me, the other guy is dead so why not blame him, why do Australian police make so much work for themselves when can sign off now.

Looks to me you'r not much better, conclusions from 1 news report that is at least doubtful and you have it all figured out.

You didn't even read the first 6 words of my post before responding which were;

"No we didn't get it figured out"

[ggt]

victim had deep gashes on both arms and seven stab wounds in the chest.

Police concluded that he committed suicide.

Laughed out loud when I read this statement...hilarious...it seems that almost every farang that meets their demise in Thailand...is a suicide...

Are they placing mind altering drugs in farang's drinks...oh that's right...they do drug farangs...then rob...and sometimes kill...but they

will all be recorded as another suicide...keeps the statistics looking good for the tourist trades...

Edited August 13, 2014 by ggt

[hawker9000]

My, these Russians are tough customers! (Or maybe Phuket's just a tough place...) Even when it comes to suicide! Deep gashes on both arms and seven stab wounds to the chest? 'Sounds like really hard work. He couldn't think of any easier way? ('Like a room on a higher floor, maybe...)

Seriously, I feel sorry for the guy - whichever way he might actually have died...