Unarmed black Missouri teen killed by police was shot six times: New York Times

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Unarmed black teen killed by police was shot six times: NYT

MISSOURI - A preliminary private autopsy report found that Michael Brown, the black teen killed by a police officer in the suburban St. Louis city of Ferguson, was shot at least six times, the New York Times reported on Sunday night.

Citing Dr. Michael M. Baden, former chief medical examiner for the City of New York who was hired to perform the autopsy by Brown's family, the newspaper reported that Brown, 18, was shot twice in the head, and that the bullets that hit him did not appear to have been fired from very close range.

Four shots hit Brown in his right arm and one entered the top of his skull, the Times said, citing findings by Baden, who it said flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family's behest.

The bullets, some of which left as many as five wounds, did not appear to have been fired from very close range, the Times reported, because no gunpowder was detected on his body. That conclusion could change, however, if gunshot residue is found on Brown's clothing, the newspaper said.

Full story: http://www.enca.com/unarmed-black-teen-killed-police-was-shot-six-times-nyt

-- eNCA 2014-08-18

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US teen was shot 6 times

An unarmed black teenager who was killed by a white police officer in Missouri was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy has found.

The New York Times reported (http://nyti.ms/1mZThz0 ) that the autopsy by Dr Michael Baden, a former New York City chief medical examiner, found that one of the bullets entered the top of Michael Brown's skull, suggesting that his head was bent forward when he suffered a fatal injury.

Baden said it was likely the last of bullets to hit Brown, 18, whose death has spurred a week of violent protests in Ferguson, in suburban St Louis.

Police have said little about the encounter between Brown and the officer, except to say that it involved a scuffle in which the officer was injured and Brown was shot.

Witnesses say the teenager had his hands in the air as the officer fired multiple rounds.

Full story: http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-world/us-teen-was-shot-6-times-20140818-3dw2c.html


-- The Age 2014-08-18

[zydeco]

So much for having his arms and hands in the air when he was shot. Just try holding up your arm with four bullet wounds in it. And the head shot being the last shot fits in with the story from witnesses that Brown was bum rushing the policemen when the policeman fired on him. It's spelled E-X-O-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.

[harrycallahan]

Contradicting prior witness reports that he was shot in the back. Shouldn't that be mentioned? It's an important point because if they didn't get that right doubt is cast on other aspects too.

Also on "teenager" Michael Brown...

"referred to him as a "gentle giant" (he was 6'4" tall and weighed 292 lbs at the time of his death.)."

Too much media spin on this.

[daoyai]

So much for having his arms and hands in the air when he was shot. Just try holding up your arm with four bullet wounds in it. And the head shot being the last shot fits in with the story from witnesses that Brown was bum rushing the policemen when the policeman fired on him. It's spelled E-X-O-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.

OR the officer was attempting a headshot as the victim was turning with hands raiswd, rapid fire .... maybe spelled E-X-E-C-U-T-I-O-N. (?)

[zydeco]

So much for having his arms and hands in the air when he was shot. Just try holding up your arm with four bullet wounds in it. And the head shot being the last shot fits in with the story from witnesses that Brown was bum rushing the policemen when the policeman fired on him. It's spelled E-X-O-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.

OR the officer was attempting a headshot as the victim was turning with hands raiswd, rapid fire .... maybe spelled E-X-E-C-U-T-I-O-N. (?)

Couldn't be turning, because all the shots were from the front. And last head shot was consistent, according to the autopsy report, with someone tipping their head forward. He was going to head butt the cop. Clear as an azure sky at dawn.

Edited August 18, 2014 by zydeco

[daoyai]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

[zydeco]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

For the same reason there wouldn't be any gunshot residue on someone blitzing you up the middle if you were a qb and took out a gun and shot the pass rusher at 8 or 9 yards.

[harrycallahan]

So much for having his arms and hands in the air when he was shot. Just try holding up your arm with four bullet wounds in it. And the head shot being the last shot fits in with the story from witnesses that Brown was bum rushing the policemen when the policeman fired on him. It's spelled E-X-O-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.

OR the officer was attempting a headshot as the victim was turning with hands raiswd, rapid fire .... maybe spelled E-X-E-C-U-T-I-O-N. (?)

Couldn't be turning, because all the shots were from the front. And last head shot was consistent, according to the autopsy report, with someone tipping their head forward. He was going to head butt the cop. Clear as an azure sky at dawn.

There's many possilities. Could have been toppling forward after having 5 shots fired into him. Could have been lying on the ground immobile; not ruled out by details released thus far.

[daoyai]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

For the same reason there wouldn't be any gunshot residue on someone blitzing you up the middle if you were a qb and took out a gun and shot the pass rusher at 8 or 9 yards.

Didn't the Oakland Raiders try that once in the 70s?

[zydeco]

What is even more clear is that all the Gentle Giant defenders are going to quibble over each and every tiny, often utterly disconnected, point they can make to obfuscate the big picture, which is that the story of the inadvertent eye-witness who said he saw Michael Brown bum rushing the cop is, in fact, true.

[zydeco]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

For the same reason there wouldn't be any gunshot residue on someone blitzing you up the middle if you were a qb and took out a gun and shot the pass rusher at 8 or 9 yards.

Didn't the Oakland Raiders try that once in the 70s?

And where is Lyle Alzado today?

[Ulysses G.]

Contradicting prior witness reports that he was shot in the back. Shouldn't that be mentioned? It's an important point because if they didn't get that right doubt is cast on other aspects too.

Also on "teenager" Michael Brown...

"referred to him as a "gentle giant" (he was 6'4" tall and weighed 292 lbs at the time of his death.)."

Too much media spin on this.

The "Gentle Giant" in action.

[harrycallahan]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

For the same reason there wouldn't be any gunshot residue on someone blitzing you up the middle if you were a qb and took out a gun and shot the pass rusher at 8 or 9 yards.

Didn't the Oakland Raiders try that once in the 70s?

Are you thinking of Bruce Willis movie Last Boy Scout?

[harrycallahan]

Contradicting prior witness reports that he was shot in the back. Shouldn't that be mentioned? It's an important point because if they didn't get that right doubt is cast on other aspects too.

Also on "teenager" Michael Brown...

"referred to him as a "gentle giant" (he was 6'4" tall and weighed 292 lbs at the time of his death.)."

Too much media spin on this.

The "Gentle Giant" in action.

Fiscally oppressed teen cigar aficionado.

[blowin]

I saw the video on the news here. That looks like the owner of the shop who tried to stop him leaving the shop. Now not knowing the facts of what happened next what stuck me about his general demeanor was he was not the type to say please Mr police man I am sorry and put his hands up.

[Chicog]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

For the same reason there wouldn't be any gunshot residue on someone blitzing you up the middle if you were a qb and took out a gun and shot the pass rusher at 8 or 9 yards.

And CSI:TV solves the case.

[chuckd]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

For the same reason there wouldn't be any gunshot residue on someone blitzing you up the middle if you were a qb and took out a gun and shot the pass rusher at 8 or 9 yards.

And CSI:TV solves the case.

Just getting to the office, are we?

[FritsSikkink]

So much for having his arms and hands in the air when he was shot. Just try holding up your arm with four bullet wounds in it. And the head shot being the last shot fits in with the story from witnesses that Brown was bum rushing the policemen when the policeman fired on him. It's spelled E-X-O-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.

It is spelled trigger happy USA cops again.

They were not fired from closed range and he was unarmed, why shoot 6 times?

[MJP]

National Guard has just been sent into Ferguson to quell riots.

[zydeco]

So much for having his arms and hands in the air when he was shot. Just try holding up your arm with four bullet wounds in it. And the head shot being the last shot fits in with the story from witnesses that Brown was bum rushing the policemen when the policeman fired on him. It's spelled E-X-O-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.

It is spelled trigger happy USA cops again.

They were not fired from closed range and he was unarmed, why shoot 6 times?

Because five shots didn't stop him??? Why get your knickers in an uproar?

[Chicog]

Then why no GSR? on the vic?

For the same reason there wouldn't be any gunshot residue on someone blitzing you up the middle if you were a qb and took out a gun and shot the pass rusher at 8 or 9 yards.

And CSI:TV solves the case.

Just getting to the office, are we?

Sorry, I was busy investigating a Condo Jumper in Pattaya.

[rgs2001uk]

Police Academy to be congratulated, tax dollar went to good use, good grouping by the officer.

Nice to see the usual out of state rabble rousers appearing on the scene.

[Chicog]

I really don't understand why police in the US don't wear cameras like they do in the UK.

Because if the officer is telling the truth, the video evidence would exonerate him.

Added:

Sometimes, like the moments leading up to when a police officer decides to shoot someone, transparency is an unalloyed good. And especially lately, technology has progressed to a point that it makes this kind of transparency not just possible, but routine.

So it is in Rialto, Calif., where an entire police force is wearing so-called body-mounted cameras, no bigger than pagers, that record everything that transpires between officers and citizens. In the first year after the cameras' introduction, the use of force by officers declined 60%, and citizen complaints against police fell 88%.

Edited August 18, 2014 by Chicog

[3NUMBAS]

he attacked the officer and he has the bruises to prove it

It is about a 10-minute walk from Ferguson Market to the spot where Officer Wilson, 28, with six years’ experience, approached Mr. Brown and Mr. Johnson.

The police tell of an officer who was enforcing the minor violation of jaywalking, as Mr. Brown and Mr. Johnson ignored the sidewalk and strolled down the middle of the road instead.

The morning after the shooting, Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County police said that Officer Wilson was leaving his police car when Mr. Brown “allegedly pushed the police officer back into the car,” where he “physically assaulted the police officer.”

“Within the police car there was a struggle over the officer’s weapon,” Chief Belmar said. “There was at least one shot fired in the car.” At that point, the police said, Officer Wilson left his vehicle and fatally shot Mr. Brown. “More than a few” shell casings were recovered from the scene.

Mr. Johnson, who declined to be interviewed, has described the events differently in television interviews. While he and Mr. Brown walked, he said, Officer Wilson stopped his vehicle and told them to get on the sidewalk. When they refused, Officer Wilson slammed on his brakes and drove in reverse to get closer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=0

[FritsSikkink]

he attacked the officer and he has the bruises to prove it

It is about a 10-minute walk from Ferguson Market to the spot where Officer Wilson, 28, with six years’ experience, approached Mr. Brown and Mr. Johnson.

The police tell of an officer who was enforcing the minor violation of jaywalking, as Mr. Brown and Mr. Johnson ignored the sidewalk and strolled down the middle of the road instead.

The morning after the shooting, Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County police said that Officer Wilson was leaving his police car when Mr. Brown “allegedly pushed the police officer back into the car,” where he “physically assaulted the police officer.”

“Within the police car there was a struggle over the officer’s weapon,” Chief Belmar said. “There was at least one shot fired in the car.” At that point, the police said, Officer Wilson left his vehicle and fatally shot Mr. Brown. “More than a few” shell casings were recovered from the scene.

Mr. Johnson, who declined to be interviewed, has described the events differently in television interviews. While he and Mr. Brown walked, he said, Officer Wilson stopped his vehicle and told them to get on the sidewalk. When they refused, Officer Wilson slammed on his brakes and drove in reverse to get closer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=0

BS story because the shot were not fired from close range.

[Ulysses G.]

No one claimed that the shot inside the car hit anyone, so it is impossible to say that the story is not accurate.

[joshuatdixon]

Has anyone seen this video? Eyewitness video just surfaced today I believe, and people are overheard recounting the scene immediately after it happened...and not in the favor of the teen at all.

Sorry it's on breitbarts site....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/17/He-Kept-Coming-Toward-Him-Video-in-Aftermath-of-Michael-Brown-Shooting-Describes-the-Incident

[ggt]

There is ample evidence that America has become a police state...the police no longer are there to protect the citizen...but are used to subdue protests and carry out unwarranted search and seizure...no need for probable cause...no warrant needed...and the police protect their own...covering their dastardly deeds with lies of civilian wrongdoing...

American citizens are reluctant to involve the police in any situation these days...afraid of the zeal of the police force and swat teams creating more carnage and destruction...

The police have been equipped with military style armor, automatic weapons, and training...not to be used against an external threat...but to be used against US citizens...

The US gov't makes me so proud to be an American...NOT..

[Malthus101]

"Witnesses say the teenager had his hands in the air as the officer fired multiple rounds."

** cough ** bullsh!t ** cough **