Add testosterone and block estrogen

[TeacherMike]

First, I would like to get a blood test to check my testosterone and estrogen levels... After some research I think I am low on T and high on E.... How much would this cost? How long would it take to get results?

Also, If I do see I am low on T and high on E... Would the doc prescribe me something? Would I have to talk him into it? Im afraid he would only prescribe me T... During my research I have discovered that this is wrong... Taking T only will also boost your E as your body automatically keeps the ratios in check...

If the doc doesnt prescribe me anything, can I just buy at the pharmacy? What are the prices like? What brands should I look for?

First things first though, I'm would like to get the blood test sometime this week or next week. Thanks in advance.

[papa al]

First things first, it may help if you advised forum of your location.

[h90]

Don't know how much. But I made almost everything that is possible including several expensive things and it was 8000 Baht.

So my guess Testosterone and Estrogen should be in the 2000 Baht (+/- 50%) range.

Doc: It depends if you go into some small clinic or some expensive hospital. In the expensive hospital you'll get some value information. In the small clinic up to the doc....May prescribe you just anything you want him or nothing at all.....

If I remember right Sheryl told it need a prescription, but this is Thailand, no one really cares.

Also read some of the bodybuilder forum.....They sometimes end with too low Testosterone and too high Estrogen. Some value information there. But be critical .......

First make the blood test......

[JDGRUEN]

I haven't found any Estrogen blocker -- I would have to research that... But I have bought Testosterone over the country and use it ... It definitely speeds up my metabolism and burns up extra fat. I had used in earlier this year - watched my diet - and exercised -- lost weight ... I added the Testosterone after I plateaued losing weight on diet and exercise... and sure enough the weight started dropping at a better rate... the end result was good. T. also helps with muscle tone and general tightening of the body - plus increased energy.

But I got lazy - backed off the diet but exercise stayed about the same stopped the T. - gained weight back. Shirt that had finally fit before - now would not - replay of the first time .. If I could just remain consistent ... And my 'diet' is sensible - real food - balanced .

I am back on the T., keeping a sensible diet and exercise when I can - two week result - I can wear those shirts again ...

[h90]

I haven't found any Estrogen blocker -- I would have to research that... But I have bought Testosterone over the country and use it ... It definitely speeds up my metabolism and burns up extra fat. I had used in earlier this year - watched my diet - and exercised -- lost weight ... I added the Testosterone after I plateaued losing weight on diet and exercise... and sure enough the weight started dropping at a better rate... the end result was good. T. also helps with muscle tone and general tightening of the body - plus increased energy.

But I got lazy - backed off the diet but exercise stayed about the same stopped the T. - gained weight back. Shirt that had finally fit before - now would not - replay of the first time .. If I could just remain consistent ... And my 'diet' is sensible - real food - balanced .

I am back on the T., keeping a sensible diet and exercise when I can - two week result - I can wear those shirts again ...

There are Estrogen blockers.....but you should really know what you do. Estrogen is very important, also for males. I would make a blood test and if it is really high I would consult a doctor and not experiment on my own with it.

If you add T, your body will produce less on its own. When you stop you'll end with less Testosterone in your blood than you had before. And it recovers very slow.

So I wouldn't mess with it without consulting a doctor or at least having a very good understanding what to do, and specially what to do after stopping it. Else you end in much worse shape than you have been before.

I recently read in a forum about a 280 pound (140 kg) bodybuilder who cried in the office like a little girl because someone spoke unfriendly to him......he used lot of Testosterone and stopped. Ended up without Testosterone but lots of Estrogen in his blood. Being more female than any female is. --> That can happen if you mess around with hormones.....

[Sheryl]

Yes, do not mess around with this on your own. Get the blood work first and consult a good endocrinologist.

[TeacherMike]

Yes, certainly I will get the blood test first! I dont just want to do something blind...

The reason I'm asking about T boosters and E blockers is because, from what I have read, if you just take T, your E will raise too... The main purpose of me doing this is because Ive got fat in some of the wrong places Ive been struggling my whole life to get rid of (man boobs). I'm actually quite thin, and in really good shape, just cursed with boobs!

From researching online, this is actually breast tissue and not 100% fat, so regardless of how low your body fat percentage is, the boobs wont go away... The only way to get rid of it is to lower the E levels in your body. (or get surgery)

[h90]

Yes, certainly I will get the blood test first! I dont just want to do something blind...

The reason I'm asking about T boosters and E blockers is because, from what I have read, if you just take T, your E will raise too... The main purpose of me doing this is because Ive got fat in some of the wrong places Ive been struggling my whole life to get rid of (man boobs). I'm actually quite thin, and in really good shape, just cursed with boobs!

From researching online, this is actually breast tissue and not 100% fat, so regardless of how low your body fat percentage is, the boobs wont go away... The only way to get rid of it is to lower the E levels in your body. (or get surgery)

There are several ways to "lower" Estrogen.

good question is if you really have man boobs or if you just tend to get fat there.

Food can be also the reason: Beer is known to make boobs. KFC was discussed but most probably all chicken in Thailand have some problems. I think it is the Salmonella-Statica (spelling in English????) that is converted inside the chicken to something that is similar shaped as Estrogen and causes boobs at young boys.

Still first step...check the levels...Go the clinic on Monday and you have the result on Tuesday.....

Search "bodybuilder bitch tits". Bodybuilder who use steroids which easily convert to Estrogen have this problem, therefor you find plenty informations on this topic in the bodybuilder forums. Smaller issues can be fixed with Estrogen blocker. Bigger must be operated.

Estrogen regulates many things, so use recommendations from forums just for information and don't mess around with Estrogen levels if you don't know exactly what you do.

Sure there are also doctors who know about that topic.....specially in Thailand.....Many females want to convert their body to male, so there must be Doctors who know about it. Maybe Sheryl can recommend one.