Red shirts in Japan ‘plot’ against coup

[Lite Beer]

Red shirts in Japan ‘plot’ against coup

BANGKOK: -- The National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) is monitoring a group of Thai anti-coup activists in Japan amid allegations they are planning a campaign against the junta.

Deputy army chief Gen Udomdej Sitabutr, who is also deputy defence minister, told an NCPO meeting Friday (September 5) that the activists had attempted to submit a letter denouncing the coup to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

The letter is said to have explained their opposition to the coup and detailed alleged torture and physical assaults against people who had been detained by the military junta, Gen Udomdej said.

A source in Japan said a group of around 26 Thais yesterday (September 5) gathered outside the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs holding placards protesting against the coup and the use of martial law in Thailand.

They are believed to be supporters of the red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD).

The group tried to submit their letter to the prime minister but no representatives of the Japanese government came out to meet them, the source said.

The activists then moved on to the United Nations University, where a UN representative came out to receive the statement from them, the source added.

Headquartered in Tokyo, the university is the academic and research arm of the United Nations with diplomatic status as a UN institution.

Gen Udomdej reportedly told the NCPO meeting that a number of anti-coup movements have also been reemerging in Thailand since the new cabinet was unveiled. The dissenters are yet to adopt aggressive tactics, he said.

He suggested that the movements are keeping a low profile because martial law is still in place, claiming this may explain why calls to lift the special law are being made.

Gen Udomdej warned the NCPO's opponents intend to spread false rumours about the situation in Thailand, instructing security officials and the Foreign Ministry to correct this misinformation with the international community.

If anti-coup activists escalate their activities, the regional armies will have to step up measures to contain the situation, he said.

However, all measures to contain anti-coup groups must be in line with Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha's policy to minimise unnecessary conflict for the NCPO, Gen Udomdej said.

He called on parties concerned to undertake public relations activities to firmly convey the fact that the NCPO has never used force or torture against people detained under martial law.

Meanwhile, NCPO deputy chief and navy commander Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who also serves as education minister, said the authorities are considering whether martial law should be lifted in some parts of the country.

Martial law is likely to be revoked in violence-free tourist destinations first, he said.

Despite this, Adm Narong admitted he could not yet confirm whether the law would be lifted in certain provinces, tourist spots or nationwide. A clear decision should come after the cabinet meeting on Tuesday, he said.

Areas most likely to see the law revoked include tourist destinations including Chon Buri's Pattaya, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Rayong and some of the southern provinces.

These locations were also among the first to see the post-coup curfew lifted before night-time restrictions were removed across the country in mid-June.

Gen Prayuth last Tuesday promised to relax martial law when the time was right, now that an interim government has been installed.

-- Phuket News 2014-09-06

[TVGerry]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

[fab4]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

I guess that "bunch" of losers are exercising their democratic right to criticise what they regard as a self appointed "government" in a country where they are still able to demonstrate that right.

[tbthailand]

writing a letter is now 'plotting against the coup'.

"opposition" to the junta has been the excuse for keeping martial law.

the junta is paranoid.

"Gen Udomdej warned the NCPO's opponents intend to spread false rumours about the situation in Thailand, instructing security officials and the Foreign Ministry to correct this misinformation with the international community."

ah, the ministry of truth needs to kick into high-gear.

"He called on parties concerned to undertake public relations activities to firmly convey the fact that the NCPO has never used force or torture against people detained under martial law."

clearly the junta is going to continue with their blanket denials. This needs to be addressed outside of the influence of the junta.

"Meanwhile, NCPO deputy chief and navy commander Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who also serves as education minister,"

alright kiddies, this is the man re-writing the text books for you.

[BeforeTigers]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

Fascist apologists look the same the world over;

Open with ridicule and then accuse the other of affiliating with one presumed enemy or the other- never approaching any form of relevant argument.

Sad, really.

Fortunately there are, few though they seem to be, people with bith brains and guts.

Has these rightwingers trembling in their jackboots.

[BeforeTigers]

writing a letter is now 'plotting against the coup'.

"opposition" to the junta has been the excuse for keeping martial law.

the junta is paranoid.

"Gen Udomdej warned the NCPO's opponents intend to spread false rumours about the situation in Thailand, instructing security officials and the Foreign Ministry to correct this misinformation with the international community."

ah, the ministry of truth needs to kick into high-gear.

"He called on parties concerned to undertake public relations activities to firmly convey the fact that the NCPO has never used force or torture against people detained under martial law."

clearly the junta is going to continue with their blanket denials. This needs to be addressed outside of the influence of the junta.

"Meanwhile, NCPO deputy chief and navy commander Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who also serves as education minister,"

alright kiddies, this is the man re-writing the text books for you.

They should be paranoid.

They, like all dictatorial regimes, are outnumbered 100/1.

Fear the day people realize that and stand up for themselves.

Sadly, the only people sense to see the junta for what it is have left the country.

[tbthailand]

writing a letter is now 'plotting against the coup'.

"opposition" to the junta has been the excuse for keeping martial law.

the junta is paranoid.

"Gen Udomdej warned the NCPO's opponents intend to spread false rumours about the situation in Thailand, instructing security officials and the Foreign Ministry to correct this misinformation with the international community."

ah, the ministry of truth needs to kick into high-gear.

"He called on parties concerned to undertake public relations activities to firmly convey the fact that the NCPO has never used force or torture against people detained under martial law."

clearly the junta is going to continue with their blanket denials. This needs to be addressed outside of the influence of the junta.

"Meanwhile, NCPO deputy chief and navy commander Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who also serves as education minister,"

alright kiddies, this is the man re-writing the text books for you.

They should be paranoid.

They, like all dictatorial regimes, are outnumbered 100/1.

Fear the day people realize that and stand up for themselves.

Sadly, the only people sense to see the junta for what it is have left the country.

Do you know the roadrunner and wiley coyote cartoons?

Wiley Coyote runs off a cliff and keeps running in thin air - until he looks down.

The junta can't afford to look down. Instead they continue to clamp down.

[halloween]

writing a letter is now 'plotting against the coup'.

"opposition" to the junta has been the excuse for keeping martial law.

the junta is paranoid.

"Gen Udomdej warned the NCPO's opponents intend to spread false rumours about the situation in Thailand, instructing security officials and the Foreign Ministry to correct this misinformation with the international community."

ah, the ministry of truth needs to kick into high-gear.

"He called on parties concerned to undertake public relations activities to firmly convey the fact that the NCPO has never used force or torture against people detained under martial law."

clearly the junta is going to continue with their blanket denials. This needs to be addressed outside of the influence of the junta.

"Meanwhile, NCPO deputy chief and navy commander Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who also serves as education minister,"

alright kiddies, this is the man re-writing the text books for you.

They should be paranoid.

They, like all dictatorial regimes, are outnumbered 100/1.

Fear the day people realize that and stand up for themselves.

Sadly, the only people sense to see the junta for what it is have left the country.

Do you know the roadrunner and wiley coyote cartoons?

Wiley Coyote runs off a cliff and keeps running in thin air - until he looks down.

The junta can't afford to look down. Instead they continue to clamp down.

Hmmm..... that coyote analogy was used in True Detective, the character using it to deceive his wife about his preoccupation, actually an extra-marital affair. Might there be another resonance as you try to deceive us about who is doing what and to whom?

[smedly]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

I guess that "bunch" of losers are exercising their democratic right to criticise what they regard as a self appointed "government" in a country where they are still able to demonstrate that right.

They can criticise all they want amongst themselves nobody else wants to hear it and Thailand is better off for it too

The only people disgruntled at the moment are those that that were living outside the law and it's being corrected slowly but surely, the red mafias grip on Thailand is no more and good ridence

[Cpkt8]

Family issues ought to be settled among the family members. Why go to wash the dirty linen at other people's home??

[northernjohn]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

I guess that "bunch" of losers are exercising their democratic right to criticise what they regard as a self appointed "government" in a country where they are still able to demonstrate that right.

You will of course note that the Japanese government being far more in touch with reality than you are ignored them. As for self appointed government.

What other logical choice did Thailand have.

I know you consider increasing corruption and working to bring in a convicted criminal to be a dictator is logical.

But let's face it sorry to say (not really) you are in the minority.

[brucec64]

Family issues ought to be settled among the family members. Why go to wash the dirty linen at other people's home??

Because in this case, settling the issue among the family members results in one of the family members being locked up in the attic.

[halloween]

Family issues ought to be settled among the family members. Why go to wash the dirty linen at other people's home??

Because in this case, settling the issue among the family members results in one of the family members being locked up in the attic.

Isn't that what you do with the violent retarded?

[northernjohn]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

Fascist apologists look the same the world over;

Open with ridicule and then accuse the other of affiliating with one presumed enemy or the other- never approaching any form of relevant argument.

Sad, really.

Fortunately there are, few though they seem to be, people with bith brains and guts.

Has these rightwingers trembling in their jackboots.

Yes we all saw a sample of their brains and guts in Bangkok in 2010.

I notice the guts are no longer there. Cowering idiots are what they are. Yes they are reduced to being laughable.

[fab4]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

I guess that "bunch" of losers are exercising their democratic right to criticise what they regard as a self appointed "government" in a country where they are still able to demonstrate that right.

You will of course note that the Japanese government being far more in touch with reality than you are ignored them. As for self appointed government.

What other logical choice did Thailand have.

I know you consider increasing corruption and working to bring in a convicted criminal to be a dictator is logical.

But let's face it sorry to say (not really) you are in the minority.

You know, I can't recall where I have ever stated a belief that "increasing corruption and working to bring in a convicted criminal to be a dictator is logical."

Would you like to apologise for lying now, or later?

[fab4]

Fascist apologists look the same the world over;

Open with ridicule and then accuse the other of affiliating with one presumed enemy or the other- never approaching any form of relevant argument.

Sad, really.

Fortunately there are, few though they seem to be, people with bith brains and guts.

Has these rightwingers trembling in their jackboots.

Yes we all saw a sample of their brains and guts in Bangkok in 2010.

I notice the guts are no longer there. Cowering idiots are what they are. Yes they are reduced to being laughable.

Sadly for an unfortunate number of people who had a different viewpoint to the government of the time, those brains and guts were all too visible on the streets of Bangkok.

[brucec64]

Family issues ought to be settled among the family members. Why go to wash the dirty linen at other people's home??

Because in this case, settling the issue among the family members results in one of the family members being locked up in the attic.

Isn't that what you do with the violent retarded?

This was something done back in the 1950's, which, coincidentally, is where this country is headed politically:

The NCPO on the other hand, their actions look more like the military regimes of the 1950s and 1960s. Back then the soldiers controlled many economic boards and state-owned enterprises, which led to massive corruption.”

http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1402311525

[northernjohn]

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writing a letter is now 'plotting against the coup'.

"opposition" to the junta has been the excuse for keeping martial law.

the junta is paranoid.

"Gen Udomdej warned the NCPO's opponents intend to spread false rumours about the situation in Thailand, instructing security officials and the Foreign Ministry to correct this misinformation with the international community."

ah, the ministry of truth needs to kick into high-gear.

"He called on parties concerned to undertake public relations activities to firmly convey the fact that the NCPO has never used force or torture against people detained under martial law."

clearly the junta is going to continue with their blanket denials. This needs to be addressed outside of the influence of the junta.

"Meanwhile, NCPO deputy chief and navy commander Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who also serves as education minister,"

alright kiddies, this is the man re-writing the text books for you.

They should be paranoid.
They, like all dictatorial regimes, are outnumbered 100/1.
Fear the day people realize that and stand up for themselves.

Sadly, the only people sense to see the junta for what it is have left the country.

The only people who have seen the junta for what it really is have left the country. Denotes past tense. Also let us take a look at a quote from the article which clearly states how many have clearly seen them for what they are.

A source in Japan said a group of around 26 Thais yesterday

Alarming that there is that many.

Family issues ought to be settled among the family members. Why go to wash the dirty linen at other people's home??

.Because they know they are in the wrong and haven't got the gut's to tell the truth at home so they take their ignorant opinion else where. To a place where they know no body gives a fig what the say.;b++){var>

[northernjohn]

Family issues ought to be settled among the family members. Why go to wash the dirty linen at other people's home??

Because in this case, settling the issue among the family members results in one of the family members being locked up in the attic.

It would appear that Yingluck is not going to be locked up in the attic.

[ramrod711]

Fascist apologists look the same the world over;

Open with ridicule and then accuse the other of affiliating with one presumed enemy or the other- never approaching any form of relevant argument.

Sad, really.

Fortunately there are, few though they seem to be, people with bith brains and guts.

Has these rightwingers trembling in their jackboots.

Yes we all saw a sample of their brains and guts in Bangkok in 2010.

I notice the guts are no longer there. Cowering idiots are what they are. Yes they are reduced to being laughable.

Sadly for an unfortunate number of people who had a different viewpoint to the government of the time, those brains and guts were all too visible on the streets of Bangkok.

I suppose the same might be said about the people demonstrating against the last government, only they didn't have a militia dressed in black and an entire nation wide police force working to protect them.

[tbthailand]

writing a letter is now 'plotting against the coup'.

"opposition" to the junta has been the excuse for keeping martial law.

the junta is paranoid.

"Gen Udomdej warned the NCPO's opponents intend to spread false rumours about the situation in Thailand, instructing security officials and the Foreign Ministry to correct this misinformation with the international community."

ah, the ministry of truth needs to kick into high-gear.

"He called on parties concerned to undertake public relations activities to firmly convey the fact that the NCPO has never used force or torture against people detained under martial law."

clearly the junta is going to continue with their blanket denials. This needs to be addressed outside of the influence of the junta.

"Meanwhile, NCPO deputy chief and navy commander Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who also serves as education minister,"

alright kiddies, this is the man re-writing the text books for you.

They should be paranoid.

They, like all dictatorial regimes, are outnumbered 100/1.

Fear the day people realize that and stand up for themselves.

Sadly, the only people sense to see the junta for what it is have left the country.

Do you know the roadrunner and wiley coyote cartoons?

Wiley Coyote runs off a cliff and keeps running in thin air - until he looks down.

The junta can't afford to look down. Instead they continue to clamp down.

Hmmm..... that coyote analogy was used in True Detective, the character using it to deceive his wife about his preoccupation, actually an extra-marital affair. Might there be another resonance as you try to deceive us about who is doing what and to whom?

"Might there be another resonance as you try to deceive us about who is doing what and to whom?"

No.

[Bakseeda]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

I guess that "bunch" of losers are exercising their democratic right to criticise what they regard as a self appointed "government" in a country where they are still able to demonstrate that right.

fab4.... hold it right there... people of Thailand do not have any democratic rights at this period of time... they sold those rights for 500 bahts along with their votes for the Shinewatras... By voting in the most corrupt government hopefully Thailand will ever have. The military took over bloodlessly to end the crisis brought on by that same corrupt government which almost ripped this country apart. And thank God this military took over to stop what would have been civil war and many deaths... or should I say many more deaths as the Red Shirts had already started notching up their score.. Viva el General... and a pox on Red Shirt appologists... Shame on you...!

[ThailandNoob]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

I guess that "bunch" of losers are exercising their democratic right to criticise what they regard as a self appointed "government" in a country where they are still able to demonstrate that right.

They can criticise all they want amongst themselves nobody else wants to hear it and Thailand is better off for it too

The only people disgruntled at the moment are those that that were living outside the law and it's being corrected slowly but surely, the red mafias grip on Thailand is no more and good ridence

"no-one wants to hear it" I think that the government of my home country shares a similar point of view, given that they have blocked the junta leaders from visiting.

Looking closer to home, if so many people love the coup, then why doesn't Prayuth stand for election and get international legitimacy for his leadership?

Sent from my IS11T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[halloween]

"no-one wants to hear it" I think that the government of my home country shares a similar point of view, given that they have blocked the junta leaders from visiting.

Looking closer to home, if so many people love the coup, then why doesn't Prayuth stand for election and get international legitimacy for his leadership?

Sent from my IS11T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Where is Noobland? As Payuth seems more intent on running the country than his junket-addicted predecessor, does it really matter?

[metisdead]

An inflammatory post has been removed.

[chainarong]

I am sure the rules of engagement are such that if any particular crowd are plotting an overthrow or to cause mayhem from Japanese soil, there are laws in place that these people can do time for a long time , if the Thai government has solid proof that anarchists are plotting against Thailand they must bring this up with their Japanese counterparts, not run to the Thai press.

[bubblegum]

For a while this forum was nice but now the red propaganda machine is turning it sour again

[BeforeTigers]

For a while this forum was nice but now the red propaganda machine is turning it sour again

Ah yes, because one must be a Red to oppose fascism.

More toothless name-calling from the apologists.

[BeforeTigers]

I guess these bunch of losers didn't get the memo from their boss from Dubai! Stop making trouble or they'll freeze my money!

Fascist apologists look the same the world over;

Open with ridicule and then accuse the other of affiliating with one presumed enemy or the other- never approaching any form of relevant argument.

Sad, really.

Fortunately there are, few though they seem to be, people with bith brains and guts.

Has these rightwingers trembling in their jackboots.

Yes we all saw a sample of their brains and guts in Bangkok in 2010.

I notice the guts are no longer there. Cowering idiots are what they are. Yes they are reduced to being laughable.

Case in point:

Incoherent nonsense followed by name calling and pointless chatter.

[Prbkk]

General/PM Prayuth would be well advised to ignore these groups; they represent no threat to him or his government. the downside for him is that he will appear to be a bully in the event that he tries to crack down on them. He's still in his honeymoon period; no need to be boxing at shadows. The measure of his success or otherwise will be his performance over the next few months. That judgement will come from within Thailand, not from Japan.