spidermike007 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If only it were 5.5%. TAT would be very pleased with that fictitious number. I have not seen a Russian for weeks now. A group that was very plentiful just a few months ago, has diminished dramatically. Of course, it is summer there now. And with the embargoes it is tough for them to travel right now. They can thank Putin for that. Their glorious leader has made life a bit of a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginglee Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... From personal experience I find them arrogant, rude and abusive- maybe I'm wrong in generalising and basing it on the ones I've met in Thailand....But then when you have a leader that thinks it's ok to invade another country without international support, shoot down a passenger jet, and rides with not shirt on horse back....you really have to wonder what hope these people have... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Criminy...I would not mind going to Crimea...judging from the girls in the photo. Believe me, the girls in the Ukraine are equally pretty, more welcoming and these days grateful for your visit..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginglee Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 just for the record, my mate is happily married to a Russian woman. hes ill with cancer now so i ive told him he can stop at my pattaya beach condo and enjoy his time rather than stay in the UK council estate dump hes stuck in now. his wife flatly refused to go to thailand as (in her words) she did not want to be surrounded by rude, pig ignorant, arrogant people from her own country and she would rather stay amongst the benefit claiming lowlifes on the estate than mix with them. her rather attractive 26 year old daughter also flatly refused to go there as she was fearful for her safety once they found out she was unmarried and on her own. .......their words, not mine, i thought she would enjoy spending time amongst her own, speaking her own language etc. wow ! and that's from the 'horses mouth' . Nice you do that for your mate- I hope he recovers. As for the 26yr old daughter I don't mind taking her to Thailand...she'd be safe I promise ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeNox Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Here is a lot of russians!!! Who is missing them? Just come to Jomtien or Central or Teprasid market….. 80% are Russians! Well, don't mind tourists but let them stay at the hotels only! Really don't wanna see them in my condo. Good like with that, hope in ur condo will be only Russians. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabphil Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... So your a SEXPAT that like russians but doesnt like brits or yanks..is that right and why do you infer that all those that comment on this site are so called SEXPATS..i take inference to that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denby45 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... I hear your opinion, but I am curious if you actually live in a place where the majority of people you are surrounded with everyday have been Russian tourists for YEARS. Because if not, it's hard to see how such a person could have an INFORMED opinion about Russian tourist behavior (as a generality) in Thailand. This post written in Jomtienski, Thailussia well I can reply to you , I have been to Russia over 23 times in the last decade , 21 years living in Thailand and been surrounded by many nationalities , the behavior of Russian tourists is not worse than any other nationalities ... judging people or a country only on the fact that you live in pattaya is disgraceful .. dont think you are better than anyone you are only a guest in Thailand like the rest of all the farang here I'm not anti Russian, I just prefer people who arn't loud, rude, racist, narrow minded and ignorant. I too have nothing at all against Russians. I think everyone should own one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) and does anybody really care? Beautiful Youthful Russian girlfriends, I can Dream. Why just dream http://www.volgagirl.com/ Etc., etc., etc. Edited September 10, 2014 by chickenslegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaimaishoe Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... From personal experience I find them arrogant, rude and abusive- maybe I'm wrong in generalising and basing it on the ones I've met in Thailand....But then when you have a leader that thinks it's ok to invade another country without international support, shoot down a passenger jet, and rides with not shirt on horse back....you really have to wonder what hope these people have... Hm, until you mentioned shooting down a passenger jet I thought you were talking about Bush going into Iraq! Which is why the shrub was such a disaster, now the US has no moral high ground on which to stand, not a category even a cynic like myself would have put the US in prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalisa Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 There's something many of you (except trolls) have to think about: Racial and Racist Stereotypes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hannah Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Russians,are only good for 7/11 or family mart,,,They sit on the beach,do not use the deck chairs,or buy food from the traders,They go over to 7/11 and bring back,,,Night time they buy cheap thai whiskey,and sit in there,as cheap as they can get rooms..The brits are leaving in numbers,,Thailand,,has lost the plot,,yes we are not as many as ..ie,, indians chinese russians,,Who now make the tourist numbers up.But we do squander a great deal of money ,,ie bars beach,and women..I also think we spend more in 7/11 and family mart, than them,,,Are hygene is far higher,, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MZurf Posted September 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... It never seases to amaze me the way all those Bangkok sexpats constantly slag Pattaya without even setting foot in the place. If Bangkok had the same amount of Russians as Pattaya I'm sure we'd hear a different tune. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Stranger Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... The arrogance of Russians, makes Yanks look like Canadians. I live amongst them and it's not slagging if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown1950 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... It never seases to amaze me the way all those Bangkok sexpats constantly slag Pattaya without even setting foot in the place. If Bangkok had the same amount of Russians as Pattaya I'm sure we'd hear a different tune. Have travelled all over the world for the last 40 years and yes i must agree the russian people i have encountered were terrible however they come second in the obnoxtious stakes to jews from Israel. They really do think they own the world ! On my travels in Thailand i have encountered Jewish holidaymakers and i must say they were horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robsamui Posted September 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Seeing that the original post has developed into a Russian-bashing session - then my small contribution. I've been living on Samui for almost 17 years, and so come into contact with tourists every day. And also people of varied nationalities who like to come here for three or six months, during the winter in their own country. My cultural background has given me no inherent like or dislike of any nation. So any judgements I've made are solely from seeing the way that different nationalities react socially with the rest of the society around them on Samu. At one time the Israelis took the generic prize for being offhand, rude and arrogant. But now, as a group, the Russians are by far the worst. Samui has only been open to Russian tourism for the last 3 years. There are no little nationalistic enclaves on Samui - you'll find people from every nationality spread all over the island, with long term bungalow estates housing Germans, French, Australians, Brits, Americans - everyone mixed in together happily and without (usually) hassles. But not Russians. For the first time on Samui now there is a set of people who group themselves together, rejecting the company of others, and taking over entire (small) areas like ghettos. They seem to be very careful with their money and avoid the big Russian cafe bars and the Russian restaurants - most of them look for the small cheap local Thai restaurants and then monopolise them, as words spreads. (There is even a Thai restaurant which opened recently that has its menu in Thai and Russian - no English to be seen anywhere.) In all my time in Thailand I've grown used to walking into any restaurant and just giving the other diners a smile and a nod as I catch their eye. But Russians don' t even seem to notice, and there's no warmth to them at all. On the many occasions I've come across them on the street, their attitude and behaviour has been loud and rude by anybody's standard. They don't speak,they yell at each other, try to haggle and bargain down prices everywhere (even in restaurants), allow their young children to run riot with no attempt to control them, ignore queues and shove to the front in 7-11s or banks, have no social skills and little or no interest in local people. culture or tradition. Certainly, many of them cannot speak English - one reason perhaps for some of this behaviour. But I've been to a great many different countries and the first words that everyone seems to pick up right away are "how much?, toilet?, hello, please and thank you". And Russians can't seem to get the hang of the last three at all. Certainly there are exceptions and I've met several delightful Russian people, singly and in couples. And these individuals have told me that they hate the way the rest of the Russians behave. But these folk are very much in the minority. However, since last May they've all been drifting away. My little soi has 8 houses and last February the count was one Brit, 8 Thais and somewhere between 20 and 25 Russians living 6 or 8 to a house, coming and going all hours of the day and night, hooting and yelling on their balconies at 5:00 am - and with taxis bringing new ones two or three times every week. I had stopped going to my local restaurant as it was always full of shouting voices, racing kids and hostile glares. Now there are no Russians in my soi at all. And my restaurant is getting used to speaking English again and has become placid once more. I'm relieved and delighted. It's a great pity that the Russians who are pleasant are vastly overshadowed by the rudeness and ignorance of the majority. But I, for one, am happy to see the back of them all, if that means that the quality of life here has now notably improved without them! R Edited September 10, 2014 by robsamui 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert2006 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hope Russian will choose another place , when you see how they are treated in this forum by some sexpat thinking they are better than anyone else ...and who define themselves as more Thai than Thais , I would rather be friend with a Russian than a narrow minded arrogant Brit or yank who think he is someone in here but in fact is not better than anyone else. Pathetic .... I hear your opinion, but I am curious if you actually live in a place where the majority of people you are surrounded with everyday have been Russian tourists for YEARS. Because if not, it's hard to see how such a person could have an INFORMED opinion about Russian tourist behavior (as a generality) in Thailand. This post written in Jomtienski, Thailussia well I can reply to you , I have been to Russia over 23 times in the last decade , 21 years living in Thailand and been surrounded by many nationalities , the behavior of Russian tourists is not worse than any other nationalities ... judging people or a country only on the fact that you live in pattaya is disgraceful .. dont think you are better than anyone you are only a guest in Thailand like the rest of all the farang here I lived in Thailand for 8 years and moved back to the USA 8 months ago. I can tell you from my point of view I always felt like a necessary evil accepted by the Thai government, never a “guest”. The Thai’s here in the US are totally accepted they have businesses, own land or whatever they want, if they are successful we are happy for them. I can’t speak for someone else but in my opinion I believe the Thai’s living here in the US don’t feel like “guests” they feel established and secure in their new home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktdiver Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hate to generalize but with that said, the Russians that I have come in contact with have been arrogant, rude and treat the Thais horribly. They leave their garbage around like the entire country is just one giant garbage receptacle. I have seen them on scuba diving excursions drinking before diving, which is absolutely prohibited for safety reasons, then come unclued when they weren't allowed to dive. No big loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The ruble/baht exchange rate has no bearing on arrivals. The immigration crackdowners would have us believe that all of them come here to work illegally anyway. So they are spending baht not rubles. "So they are spending baht not rubles." Hmmm. Now let's see... WHAT do you suppose a Russian must sell in order to buy Thai baht that's he's going to spend?? OK, now when a LOT of people suddenly want to SELL one thing, in order to buy something else, WHAT do you suppose happens to the price of the thing being SOLD? Esp. vs the thing they're all wanting to BUY? But you're sort of right in saying it the way you actually said it. "Has no bearing" as in, doesn't actually cause the drop in the number of arrivals. But the two things are obviously related. Something is causing them both... Other posters addressing those causes in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schbang Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Please listen to TAT for the definitive word, nothing is wrong, numbers are not down and TAT's efforts / promotions are making tourists flock back. On the other hand ... ! Yes some TAT suggest numbers are up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 and does anybody really care? Beautiful Youthful Russian girlfriends, I can Dream. Go to Russia, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 i really hope not,i so love watching those dirty woman slut around,i also enjoy lauging at those rediculous men,god if ever thier was a culture of idiots...russia has it nailed...please dont leave we need the entertainment...im retired and getting bored.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know and have known many Russians and the majority of them have been polite and enjoyable company. Mind you, I have been to Paris 3 times and only met 1 rude Parisian............I guess it is how you treat people..................well, except the Canadians, I always seem to clash with the Canadians!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDave Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) I went to the snake show near Pattaya in 2010 it was full of Russian family's. Only non Russians were me and my friend and a few Thais. Another time I was on one of the Islands sitting in the back of a baht-bus my friend could not find a light and a Russian guy leaned over and lite his cigarette for him. I had a talk with him with his wife as translator where they lived in Russian it was -40 so no wonder they come to Thailand. I think I read somewhere once before Russians are loud because that is their culture, where they live they have to fight for their share of things which is why they push their way to the front of queues. Putin is a good example of their culture when you see him ridding horses bear chested. Most Thais Ive talked to don't like Russians because they say they are mean with their money and they buy cheap beer and drink it outside of 7/11. Ive had zero trouble from Russians however I have had plenty of trouble in the past from fellow English people in England. I think their are trouble makers from every nationality not just the occasional Russian. The Chinese appear to be doing quite well at the moment plenty of youtube vids of badly behaved Chinese tourists. Edited September 10, 2014 by MRDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgphuket Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Losing our Russians? What could be worse? a reduction in disease ridden soi dogs sleeping in the road? And post deleted in 3...2...1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 who really cares? I for one don' t come to Thailand to look at Russian women. I would probably go to Russia for that. And in regards Russian males with their boorish behaviours I suggest the answer should be even more obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Who runs the boiler rooms in Thailand? Take a guess Who operates illegal tour companies? That alone is costing Thai's jobs Getting into scams they had control over for years. I won't even get into all the Russians hookers posting online for dates or escorts services. Noticed being PC I didn't mention name of site either we all know the site.Also noticed a lot of high end condo's up for rent so good prices will start coming down. also noticed lately a bunch of bars for sale guess moving operations else where, Burma perhaps? Not bashing stating facts.Heck I know several Russians nice people but even they tell me don't get involved in business with them. So TAT want to increase tourism then get rid of the two price system also on attraction if free for Thai's free for all. That way people come here and truly feel welcome. The country becomes more inviting. And stop Quoting these useless rags like Huffington Post no one believes the thrash try write. Get more truth from the SUN yes Micheal Jackson is alive and well working as reporter for Aljezzar News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulzed Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Is Thailand really losing Russian arrivals? Let's hope so! Absolutely agreed. Definately some of the pushiest, rudest and obnoxious people I have encountered in a long time. From what I have personally heard, I am fairly sure that the local Thais will be happy to see the back of them also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yes, get back on topic... money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwall_fan Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> All the confusing immigration rule changes and bad publicity regarding scams and attacks are taking its toll regardless of announcement by TAT which is a publicity stunt. The massive increase in beer prices due to tax rises haven't helped either. The majority of tourists enjoy a few pints when they are on holiday and bar prices are nearly as high as Europe. Restaurant meals for cuisines other than Thai have also risen (and a drink in a restaurant is even more expensive than in a bar). Quite simply tourists want safety, fun and value for money and in many respects Thailand no longer offers this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 There are certainly pleasant and less pleasant people of many nationalities around. We all know our own countrymen. There are pedantic Germans, superior Americans, colonial British, drunk Aussies, yelling Chinese, smelly Koreans, ever arguing Irish etc. We tend to notice the less pleasant examples much more than the really nice folks, who don't stand out. There are certainly many Russians around that are not trying to take over the place and thus fit right in. We like to stereotype. Anyway, this thread is about numbers going down. I for one feel they do. At the same time I think numbers are going down generally. Not sure why. I don't believe that political situation has much to do with it. People back home don't really hear much of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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