Terrified Briton flees Koh Tao after 'mafia' death threat

[Albertosez]

Maybe the literal translation of " Farang " - which I believe is abbreviated for " Farangset " is how the translation error has occurred. Farangset literally translates to France / French - I believe.

[Albertosez]

How about this scenario: Female victim went off and had sex with Asian men, White male stumbles upon this scene, is horrified any white woman would do that, and kills her, but gets killed by Asians in self defense. Sounds like "logic" that they may wish to send up in trial balloon. Or perhaps another press conference where spokesman says in fit of honesty "We do not want to find the killers. Too much power, and they are all paid up with police. Mai pen rai and welcome to mazing Thailand."

Did you not read the actual news about the DNA ethnicity ??

[Soutpeel]

I have to love the fact there's so many psychiatric medical experts here to be able to assess the current state of mind of MaAnna without ever having sat down and had a one on one therapy session with the guy.. amazing Thailand indeed.

Lets consider a limp wristed photo of this man with a vacant look of a thirteen year old lesbian seated in a freezer far away in thought.

The paranoia .

The obvious drug use.

The grand delusions .

Ok we might be wrong .

But again someone says he has left ( on good authority Thailand)

Same say it is he who is in protective custody.

Perhaps the Thais in his pictures are killers .

Perhaps they are just thugs who didn't like his tone.

Whatever, the story needs deep investigation not here say .

But those who see this individual as an unreliable witness are not duly shallow .

His own photos seem to point to his mind set being .

He may even be involved such is his fantasy world

lets consider Plutojames88's apparant psychic abilities, it is very obvious he has stopped taking his medication and exhibits a preference for lady boys

and has delusions that he is a reincarnation of Sigmund Freud and Shelock Holmes...

Well say what you will about those of us that think this guy looks unstable .

Certainly, you don't need a crystal ball to see he was at times suspect in his mind frame.

It has nothing to do with Freud or even guess work or mind games.

you do know this photo was taken as a joke dont you

so in addtion, in my expert opinion, it seems "plutojames88" is a simpleton, lacking in basic education, and stutters a lot, most likely down to childhood mother issues and repressed anger...

[TimTang]

I have to love the fact there's so many psychiatric medical experts here to be able to assess the current state of mind of MaAnna without ever having sat down and had a one on one therapy session with the guy.. amazing Thailand indeed.

Lets consider a limp wristed photo of this man with a vacant look of a thirteen year old lesbian seated in a freezer far away in thought.

The paranoia .

The obvious drug use.

The grand delusions .

Ok we might be wrong .

But again someone says he has left ( on good authority Thailand)

Same say it is he who is in protective custody.

Perhaps the Thais in his pictures are killers .

Perhaps they are just thugs who didn't like his tone.

Whatever, the story needs deep investigation not here say .

But those who see this individual as an unreliable witness are not duly shallow .

His own photos seem to point to his mind set being .

He may even be involved such is his fantasy world

So the guy has a funny picture of himself so he must be crazy. The cast of Monty Python have funny pictures of themselves too so they must all be crazy as well?

[ukrules]

Maybe the literal translation of " Farang " - which I believe is abbreviated for " Farangset " is how the translation error has occurred. Farangset literally translates to France / French - I believe.

Maybe there's two people involved here, one from Scotland who's posted pictures and done a runner and the French guy who's been keeping himself to himself. You know - like a murder witness would.

[Fat Haggis]

I have to love the fact there's so many psychiatric medical experts here to be able to assess the current state of mind of MaAnna without ever having sat down and had a one on one therapy session with the guy.. amazing Thailand indeed.

Lets consider a limp wristed photo of this man with a vacant look of a thirteen year old lesbian seated in a freezer far away in thought.

The paranoia .

The obvious drug use.

The grand delusions .

Ok we might be wrong .

But again someone says he has left ( on good authority Thailand)

Same say it is he who is in protective custody.

Perhaps the Thais in his pictures are killers .

Perhaps they are just thugs who didn't like his tone.

Whatever, the story needs deep investigation not here say .

But those who see this individual as an unreliable witness are not duly shallow .

His own photos seem to point to his mind set being .

He may even be involved such is his fantasy world

lets consider Plutojames88's apparant psychic abilities, it is very obvious he has stopped taking his medication and exhibits a preference for lady boys

and has delusions that he is a reincarnation of Sigmund Freud and Shelock Holmes...

Well say what you will about those of us that think this guy looks unstable .

Certainly, you don't need a crystal ball to see he was at times suspect in his mind frame.

It has nothing to do with Freud or even guess work or mind games.

It's obviousby this picture

Oh you're going on how people look then? Oh well cased closed, I wonder what you think of PROFFESOR Steven Hawking?

[mataleo]

So police have two suspects who refuse to give DNA samples, and are pursuing their investigations of speed boat owners, are you saying the police will not get a court order to take DNA from these men.

[Plutojames88]

I have to love the fact there's so many psychiatric medical experts here to be able to assess the current state of mind of MaAnna without ever having sat down and had a one on one therapy session with the guy.. amazing Thailand indeed.

Lets consider a limp wristed photo of this man with a vacant look of a thirteen year old lesbian seated in a freezer far away in thought.

The paranoia .

The obvious drug use.

The grand delusions .

Ok we might be wrong .

But again someone says he has left ( on good authority Thailand)

Same say it is he who is in protective custody.

Perhaps the Thais in his pictures are killers .

Perhaps they are just thugs who didn't like his tone.

Whatever, the story needs deep investigation not here say .

But those who see this individual as an unreliable witness are not duly shallow .

His own photos seem to point to his mind set being .

He may even be involved such is his fantasy world

lets consider Plutojames88's apparant psychic abilities, it is very obvious he has stopped taking his medication and exhibits a preference for lady boys

and has delusions that he is a reincarnation of Sigmund Freud and Shelock Holmes...

Well say what you will about those of us that think this guy looks unstable .

Certainly, you don't need a crystal ball to see he was at times suspect in his mind frame.

It has nothing to do with Freud or even guess work or mind games.

you do know this photo was taken as a joke dont you

so in addtion, in my expert opinion, it seems "plutojames88" is a simpleton, lacking in basic education, and stutters a lot, most likely down to childhood mother issues and repressed anger...

So let me get this straight - getting ripped and climbing into a freezer in a store and looking vacant as a joke means your ok mentally ?.....,,Right...tell it to the judge

[2befrank]

Whats the new bkk post article title. Cant find it... prv me link pls

It's in big print on the bangkok post homepage - top story.

Interestingly enough this is also in the print edition also on the front page.

Link title 'Face of a Killer ?'

Article title 'Frenchman 'can ID killers'

Link : http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/433740/frenchman-can-id-killers

Can I link to the Bangkok Post ? I don't know but I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

Apparently this French guy saw them attacking the victime.

The French guy is not a misidentification of the scottish guy - they are two completely different people based on what I've been reading.

I guess you could call them 'independent witnesses'.

Naaaa..... Not two people involved in the BP report.... They clearly state the exact details that are pertinent to McAnna's incident.... They have simply misquoted his nationality. I have seen this done many many times over the years with Thai reporting.

[SteveFong]

Impressive that the newspaper put on their front page the faces of the alleged killers,

and apparently are not afraid of the Internet Crimes law?

This shows the power of social media,

and, that they refused to provide DNA samples is enough to bring them to jail and interrogation,

which I sense, is the next step,

imagine when the new head of police, the former air force general or colonel is told there are two suspects,

but, during martial law,

are refusing to obey orders

[fritzzz25]

Not hard to get DNA from these two who refused. You put a surveillance crew on them, and watch every item they discard. Cigarette butts, beer bottles, soda cans. It is called "cast off" DNA. Pretty easy to do.....

[waynethor]

I just wish we could influence other TV members & holidaymakers to boycott this hellish place.

I've just been reading this Telegraph article from yesterday and the place sounds like it's a real den of Iniquity ……….

The power of Koh Tao's hidden underworld – a stark contrast with its spectacular natural beauty – has left many residents too terrified to speak openly about this week's shocking crime for fear of offending a handful of powerful and, many believe dangerous, island families who run the show.

……like many on this beautiful island he refused to discuss the evening further, saying it was inconvenient to be seen in public talking to a journalist.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/11111532/Thai-island-murder-investigation-hits-a-wall-of-silence.html

The impunity and power that people of wealth have in Thailand is a well-known fact. Money is power everywhere in the world, but Thai culture takes that so far that if you're rich enough, i.e. powerful enough, you can do things like publicly murder someone and get away with it. You can even plow a cop down in a Ferrari, killing him while pissed out of your tree and flying on cocaine and still never face any punishment because daddy's money will make it all go away.

If the General is serious about really cleaning up the country, doing things like extraditing the Red Bull cop killer from Singapore, where we were told he was going to remain for a few days because he had a case of the "sniffles", would be a good start. Following that, he could do real investigation into the families like the ones being talked about who run koh Tao. These type of people flaunt their ill-gained wealth because the basic nature of Thai culture has protected them. It's time for serious changes to that aspect of Thai culture. If the General wants to come across as anything but a bully who chases powerless little vendors off the beach, start showing true justice for all of Thailand's citizens and visitors.

Edited September 23, 2014 by waynethor

[joedot]

Police: We need to get a DNA sample from you

Leader of mafia: Nah

Police: ok no problem. Let's go talk to that guy hiding in a cave and the speedboat guy again

Local police are protecting buddies and don't really want the truth to be found out. I have verified this by independently thinking about it.

[2befrank]

I have to love the fact there's so many psychiatric medical experts here to be able to assess the current state of mind of MaAnna without ever having sat down and had a one on one therapy session with the guy.. amazing Thailand indeed.

Lets consider a limp wristed photo of this man with a vacant look of a thirteen year old lesbian seated in a freezer far away in thought.

The paranoia .

The obvious drug use.

The grand delusions .

Ok we might be wrong .

But again someone says he has left ( on good authority Thailand)

Same say it is he who is in protective custody.

Perhaps the Thais in his pictures are killers .

Perhaps they are just thugs who didn't like his tone.

Whatever, the story needs deep investigation not here say .

But those who see this individual as an unreliable witness are not duly shallow .

His own photos seem to point to his mind set being .

He may even be involved such is his fantasy world

lets consider Plutojames88's apparant psychic abilities, it is very obvious he has stopped taking his medication and exhibits a preference for lady boys

and has delusions that he is a reincarnation of Sigmund Freud and Shelock Holmes...

Well say what you will about those of us that think this guy looks unstable .

Certainly, you don't need a crystal ball to see he was at times suspect in his mind frame.

It has nothing to do with Freud or even guess work or mind games.

Why are you so intent on discrediting possibly the best witness this case has had just because you seen a picture of him larking around probably pissed up.

You never got up to monkey business when you were younger?

Just need to look on facebook to see almost daily people being pictured doing stupid stuff when they have had a few bevvies.... Doesn't make them complete <deleted> does it?... just means they have a few and act the idiot. Nothing to do with mental health.

If that is the case, then I must be mentally unhinged as well almost everyone i know to cuts loose now and again when out on the piss.

So therefore anyone who messes about now and then must have all credibility stripped from them.

Yes..... I would certainly not call you Freud.

[binjalin]

Not hard to get DNA from these two who refused. You put a surveillance crew on them, and watch every item they discard. Cigarette butts, beer bottles, soda cans. It is called "cast off" DNA. Pretty easy to do.....

not even that... jail them pending investigation and there will be myriad opportunities from eating plates, cups etc. or better still just TAKE IT

[SteveFong]

it amazes me that people think that during martial law, this is going to be swept away so fast, like in the old days

these arent the old days.

this may be the generals best opportunity to clean up an entire tourist island with one long sweep of arrests of the entire family, if it is determined they are obstructing justice

it is up to those of social media to press this very issue

it is either the mafia family, or the generals credibility on the line here

who do you really think is going to win this?

if you think one small time crime family is going to one up the general, then,

this is the wrong general and the martial law is a joke

Edited September 23, 2014 by SteveFong

[Soutpeel]

So let me get this straight - getting ripped and climbing into a freezer in a store and looking vacant as a joke means your ok mentally ?.....,,Right...tell it to the judge

so addtion to psychic abilities, believing he is Freud and Sherlock Holmes, Plutojames88 now believes he is Judge Dredd

seeing as people are discussing issues of the mind, my I humble suggest you seek medical help for your multiple personalities, I also note you never denied your preference for lady boys in my initial assessment of your case.

[Iumentum]

He looks like an extra from Hangover 2. A complete and utter goof. Making a mockery of it all.

I bet you dont look much either...

<deleted> does what someone looks like have to do with anything ? stuck up much ?

Yea, when you mumble along through an interview sounding more incoherent than Cheech and Chong, it does tend to influence judgments about your credibility.

ahh you have a problem understanding dialects then, i understood everything he said clear as a bell.. I bet youd sound pretty incoherent to some too

Yeah i bet too, specially if he had spend a night thinking he was a dead man, and still a long way from safety.

[mataleo]

If this 2 guys are the killers, they would hang Sean. They got nothing to loose. They getting life anyway. So in last attempt to try get away with it they come with that idea of framing him. I dont think they were joking...

[allan michaud]

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This is all over Facebook. I don't understand why he didn't contact somebody off island if he has legit information!

Perhaps he knows the mafia controls the police.

But what do I know

I said off island. Maybe somebody like the top dog who was sent from BKK.

He has clearly spent some time in in the Land of the Crocodile Smile so like everyone else he should be aware that you cannot trust a policeman... anywhere. Having said that I don't understand why he would be so stupid as to run around making public statements that he knows who did it, while continuing to stay on the island. This seems a very bizarre incident and while I have no specific reason to doubt this man, I can't help wondering if this guy is trying to get his 15 minutes of fame.

I think most of us would rather see the army come in and keep an eye on the cops, but I guess they don't want the military running around a major tourist resort as that doesn't look good either.

[fabphil]

Ha have u ever seen these BIB at a crime seen every man and his dog is walking around lifting and touching stuff, i doubt they have got much evidence at all..i can see it now...Death by Suicide..thats the usual outcome

[mataleo]

Bangkok Post story may be little confusing but a "French Connection" IS set to emerge in coming days so don't dismiss all of it.

[traviss]

it amazes me that people think that during martial law, this is going to be swept away so fast, like in the old days

these arent the old days.

this may be the generals best opportunity to clean up an entire tourist island with one long sweep of arrests of the entire family, if it is determined they are obstructing justice

it is up to those of social media to press this very issue

it is either the mafia family, or the generals credibility on the line here

who do you really think is going to win this?

if you think one small time crime family is going to one up the general, then,

this is the wrong general and the martial law is a joke

Please, don't be surprised when you find that they both win/won.

[Plutojames88]

It's safe to say, drug induced witnesses are not credible ones.

These kids are at the very least pests and poor taste hoaxer types.

At worse criminals who mislead the authorities and need to be restricted from these islands .

Drugs - moon parties and a fantasy world ( not seperated in the wake of tragic deaths and in very poor taste in a craving for fame)

Please drug test anyone in future making these social media madness claims

Enough is enough

Thais are smirking at this silliness

Edited September 23, 2014 by Plutojames88

[emilymat]

I think the OP is BS, he's trying to capitalize on the misfortune of others.

Look, if the local mafia would wanted him dead, so it would have been, there wouldn't have been the in depth conversations described in the OP, it's nonsense.

I'm a sceptic too. I might be unfair to the young man but how can he work as a 'barman' for 18 months on the island?. Work permit? Sounds fishy to me.

[mataleo]

Just discovered - a few years back - a prominent island businessman was shot dead in same shop Sean McAnna was hiding in from "Thai mafia".

[Iumentum]

It's safe to say, drug induced witnesses are not credible ones.

These kids are at the very least pests and poor taste hoaxer types.

At worse criminals who the authorities need to restrict from these islands .

Drugs - moon parties and fantasy in the wake of tragic deaths.

Enough is enough

Drugs or not, one witnesses testimony shouldn't be relied on. However, no matter what, then such informations given by anyone, should be taken into consideration and used in the investigation.

Try to be a little objective, instead of making it seem as you would just use the jump to conclusion mat.

[JOC]

Bangkok Post story may be little confusing but a "French Connection" IS set to emerge in coming days so don't dismiss all of it.

Clearly Sean is not the only one using strong medications!!

[lisu]

Sorry, I just don't understand what that year old photo of Sean has to do with the price of bananas. So, because he's not wearing a suite and standing straight in a photo, he's immediately classed as unstable? What makes you so qualified to pass judgement on someone's mental health based on a photo? Presumably, those criticizing his mental state based on a funny photo probably taken with mates for a laugh after a couple of beers, have NEVER been in a daft photo? It's probably safe to assume that in every photo in which you appear, you're not being so terribly vulgar as to fool around, or smile, and are generally being sensible?

I'm pretty sure there are several qualified professionals assessing both him and his story, and I'm pretty sure that assessment will be based on a little more than a photo.

[SteveFong]

he was very credible

he was in danger of being dead, and now, the bangkok post ran his story

these guys are toast