isanbirder Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/26/tony-blair-gay-icon-gay-times-attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted September 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2014 "To be a gay icon, firstly, do you have to be gay? Well, no. Our list includes Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler and Annie Lennox, all of whom are worthy of the accolade" They forgot to add "Costas2008" 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProThaiExpat Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I have difficulty reconciling the pro-gay label placed on him by the Times with his making a very public conversion to Catholicism. While recent softening of its anti-gay bias under the present Pope, his audience was granted by the former Pope, one of the most anti-gay conservative Popes of recent times. Of course there are many smörgåsbord Catholics, however, the recent converted rarely if ever gain audiences with previous Popes if they advocate gay rights. I must be missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isanbirder Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! Why did you think I posted it, sustento? Some of us are actually quite human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 We've had this conversation before. I have nothing against individuals regardless of the religion they choose to follow. I do have problems with some of the institutions that control those religions and until those institutions change their ways I will continue to have problems with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooPoopedToPop Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 "To be a gay icon, firstly, do you have to be gay? Well, no. Our list includes Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler and Annie Lennox, all of whom are worthy of the accolade" They forgot to add "Costas2008" "Beware the Greeks bearing ikons". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Good question. After all, the poor excuse for a human being is a Cheney-Bush butt-licker -mass-muderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! he only did it for the gay vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! he only did it for the gay vote AS the last ONS survey (in 2011) found that approximately 1.5% of the population of the UK are gay I suspect that he probably lost far more votes than he gained. Ever occurred to you that he did it simply because he thought it was the right thing to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! he only did it for the gay vote AS the last ONS survey (in 2011) found that approximately 1.5% of the population of the UK are gay I suspect that he probably lost far more votes than he gained. Ever occurred to you that he did it simply because he thought it was the right thing to do? "Ever occurred to you that he did it simply because he thought it was the right thing to do?" Of course,he obviously did not think Imperialism and mass murder is not quite the moral or " right thing to do". But then, all the gay community is ever concerned about ,or even aware of, is ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! he only did it for the gay vote AS the last ONS survey (in 2011) found that approximately 1.5% of the population of the UK are gay I suspect that he probably lost far more votes than he gained. Ever occurred to you that he did it simply because he thought it was the right thing to do? "Ever occurred to you that he did it simply because he thought it was the right thing to do?" Of course,he obviously did not think Imperialism and mass murder is not quite the moral or " right thing to do". But then, all the gay community is ever concerned about ,or even aware of, is ..... We're talking specifically about his effect on the gay community. Don't try and palm the blame off on us for the monstrous things he did around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I am not not "palming" any blame on "us". And you also admit that he is monstrous. So I've made my point clear enough. What is your problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) I am not not "palming" any blame on "us". And you also admit that he is monstrous. So I've made my point clear enough. What is your problem? " But then, all the gay community is ever concerned about ,or even aware of, is ....." That is my problem. Stating that gay people are only concerned about themselves whilst implying that all those worthy straight people are concerned only for the welfare of others. Edited October 21, 2014 by sustento Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yes. That obviously IS your problem. What I said about people on the gay scene is very obviously true. I did not "imply" anything at all about " worthy "straight " people". You obviously do have some problem. Don't annoy me with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Conflating the gay scene with the gay community is just silliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 No,it is not. But you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! he only did it for the gay vote AS the last ONS survey (in 2011) found that approximately 1.5% of the population of the UK are gay I suspect that he probably lost far more votes than he gained. Ever occurred to you that he did it simply because he thought it was the right thing to do? The only thing that creep ever did because he thought it the right thing ,was bring in the human rights law ,so his wife could make money and suck up to America and anyone who could make him rich when he was kicked out of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Personally i have no problem with a persons sexual likes ,if two men or women want to have sex or live with each other ,up to them ,but i do have a problem with gays constantly going on about "their rights" please give it a rest and get on with your lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think that most gays that are going on about 'their rights' are going on about your rights as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 . Well,it's good that you're laughing at yourself, no matter how lost you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 . Well,it's good that you're laughing at yourself, no matter how lost you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Regardless of his personal life or his war mongering he did a very great deal of good for the gay community in the UK. He repealed Section 28 - a nasty piece of homophobic law. He equalised he age of consent with heterosexuals. He made employer discrimination against gays illegal He started the whole civil partnership thing. The ban on being gay in the military ended during his tenure as PM. Not bad for a Roman Catholic! he only did it for the gay vote LOL... If you really think that you really are clueless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 . Well,it's good that you're laughing at yourself, no matter how lost you are. So are you showing us how you look now as you're reading about your hero Tony the child killer? Oh well, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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