Affidavit income

[henry15]

Its my 6th extension of my retitrement. In the past my embassy(belgium) always certified my affidavit and also the payement statements of my governmentpension, and attached it to the affidavit and sealed it wit at special stamp.

Now they only certify my signature on the affidavit, but due to new regulations they refuse to certify and attach the payement statements. So I'm worried that immigrantion (Nonthaburi) will not accept the payement statements. Because I did not expect this problem I don't have 800 000 Baht in my bankaccount, and its to late to make an transfer because my extension is due on 15/10/2014.

I could go for an extension based on marriedge, I have 500 000 baht in an fixed account but that is due on 03/10/2014 so also not enough time to arrange all the paperwork.

Maybe my worries are not neccesary, but in a worst case scenario, what are my options.

Thanks in advance for the advise

[Mario2008]

Some countries only issue an affidavit, that is no problem. In such cases immirgation can ask for additional proof, such as payslips, but often not.

Take the proof with you, but only show when asked for.

If worse comes to worse you can get a 60 day extension based on your marriage and after that extend for 1 year.

[ubonjoe]

They will accept the affidavit alone.

There are other embassies that do the affidavits and statutory declarations without attached proof that immigration accepts without questions.

[henry15]

Mario2008 and ubonjoe thanks you give me some peace of mind.

Mario 2008,what is

ut ogten not.

meaning, I'm nota an native Englisch speaker

[Mario2008]

spelling corrected.

[henry15]

Mario 2008 thanks 555

[Kabula]

The US Embassy only will notarize the affidavit and never requested me to provide supporting financial documents. On my applying for my retirement extensions, I bring the financial supporting docs with me attached to the notarized affidavit.

No problem.

[JJ Madcow]

Well. Nonthaburi can be special, i write that before on here.

This year on May month i got Married-Extension and income letter from my Embassy (Denmark) was not enough at Nonthaburi Immigration.

They want me to prove i send 40.000 baht or more pr month into Thailand to My Thai bank account.

So they want copy of all page in my bank book for that.

Only giving this information.

[willyumiii]

^{What is your nationality?}

^{What embassy do you go to?}

[oztaurus]

What is the length of validity of the affidavits (or Statutory Declarations as the Australian Embassy in BKK provides)?

Would a 6 month old document be too old to be deemed acceptable?

[henry15]

^{What is your nationality?}

^{What embassy do you go to?}

[henry15]

Well. Nonthaburi can be special, i write that before on here.

This year on May month i got Married-Extension and income letter from my Embassy (Denmark) was not enough at Nonthaburi Immigration.

They want me to prove i send 40.000 baht or more pr month into Thailand to My Thai bank account.

So they want copy of all page in my bank book for that.

Only giving this information.

Thanks for the warning, its much appeciated

[JJ Madcow]

What is the length of validity of the affidavits (or Statutory Declarations as the Australian Embassy in BKK provides)?

Would a 6 month old document be too old to be deemed acceptable?

At Nonthaburi Immigration Max 30 days. I was told in May 2014.

Even so the Danish Embassy told me 6 month, and the letter all so say 6 month.

[henry15]

^{What is your nationality?}

^{What embassy do you go to?}

Fleming, so belgian embassy

[ubonjoe]

What is the length of validity of the affidavits (or Statutory Declarations as the Australian Embassy in BKK provides)?

Would a 6 month old document be too old to be deemed acceptable?

It would be valid for up to 6 months at the majority of immigration offices. You might find one that hasn't gotten the message yet.

[oztaurus]

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What is the length of validity of the affidavits (or Statutory Declarations as the Australian Embassy in BKK provides)?

Would a 6 month old document be too old to be deemed acceptable?

It would be valid for up to 6 months at the majority of immigration offices. You might find one that hasn't gotten the message yet.

What is the length of validity of the affidavits (or Statutory Declarations as the Australian Embassy in BKK provides)?

Would a 6 month old document be too old to be deemed acceptable?

At Nonthaburi Immigration Max 30 days. I was told in May 2014.

Even so the Danish Embassy told me 6 month, and the letter all so say 6 month.

Thanks to both you guys, Joe - as always, swift, concise and precise; and JJ - thanks for the specific and objective personal observations

[ubonjoe]

What is the length of validity of the affidavits (or Statutory Declarations as the Australian Embassy in BKK provides)?

Would a 6 month old document be too old to be deemed acceptable?

At Nonthaburi Immigration Max 30 days. I was told in May 2014.

Even so the Danish Embassy told me 6 month, and the letter all so say 6 month.

This notice sent to all immigration offices in June of last year states 6 months. PCEC-NOTICE-THAI-IMMIGRATION-NEWS-JUNE-6.pdf

[JLCrab]

There is no reason to attach any documents to an income affidavit provided by the US Embassy and could possibly serve to invalidate the affidavit as one might assume that was part of the sworn statement before US Embassy Consular which was certainly not the case.

[IMA_FARANG]

For everyone wanting to certify an income statement from their embessay.

Your embessy will NOT usually certify your statement of income.

All they will usually do is to certify that you made such a statement before them, and verify your identity.

Therefore, the Thai immigration ALWAYS has the right to ask for futher proof from you.

If you have a government pension, or even a private pension, it is wise for you to have some letter or document you can present as futher proof of your income claimed if suck proof is requested by immigration.

You don't need to present such evidence unless asked for it. but only a fool would not have it ready if it was requested by immigration.

And one especial point for U.S. citizens.

The U.S. embessy can not intervene for you and will not defend any claims you make about your income on your income affirmation statement you present to the Thai immigration for any proof of your income.

So, if you lie abut your income, and you get caught, NO ONE is going to come to your aid.

Especially the U.S. embessy ....... it is not their function.

Note: American citizens with a Social Security pension income you can get a yearly account of your monthly and yearly income from the Social Security administration if you ask them. It's the same one you use for your taxes, and can be mailed to you annually or on request if needed.

Plan ahead.

[david555]

^{What is your nationality?}

^{What embassy do you go to?}

As a Fleming, so belgian embassy also;

Noticed too on my affidavid from our Belgium embassy that they only certify the signature ....., strange as i even send them Original attestification from the RVP (goverment pension fund, so well knowed by them as a Goverment service ) and ask to stamp too if possible ...!

Received affidavit (only 900 baht & 40 for sending costs ) , but the RVP proof with the seal from RVP , not certified ....!

So they not guarantee their own goverment services T.I.B (this is Belgium for a change once......facepalm.gif )

But no problem anybody could also bring his/ hers proof with to immigration from any transfers(pension or other ), to home account and further the transfer to Thai account , so can proof by that way too !

Next year i try just to ask RVP an english version from the Official statement , so could be read by Immigration if needed .

No problem at Jomtien , affidavit & KK bank letter was OK for them . another year worry free smile.png , even by asking they also said bank letter accepted up to 3 days old .

[henry15]

I've learned my lesson. Next year I will go for the 800K, that will cost me only 200 Baht and not 900 Baht. Even the Euro/Baht is a meager 41 baht the belgian embassy still use the rate of 1 euro=45 Baht.

Little country but great crooks.

[hyperdimension]

Would there be any problem to register a marriage (at Khet Bangrak Registration Office) and then apply for a 1-year extension of stay with an affidavit that states "0" as the income? I've read some mixed reports.

[ubonjoe]

Would there be any problem to register a marriage (at Khet Bangrak Registration Office) and then apply for a 1-year extension of stay with an affidavit that states "0" as the income? I've read some mixed reports.

The minimum income for an extension of stay based upon marriage is 40k baht. So there is no way you would get one with no income.

[hyperdimension]

Would there be any problem to register a marriage (at Khet Bangrak Registration Office) and then apply for a 1-year extension of stay with an affidavit that states "0" as the income? I've read some mixed reports.

The minimum income for an extension of stay based upon marriage is 40k baht. So there is no way you would get one with no income.

Having over 400k THB in a Thai bank account should fix that though. But how about for registering a marriage at Khet Bangrak? I've read some reports that a "nil" income was not accepted by the registrar.

[ubonjoe]

Would there be any problem to register a marriage (at Khet Bangrak Registration Office) and then apply for a 1-year extension of stay with an affidavit that states "0" as the income? I've read some mixed reports.

The minimum income for an extension of stay based upon marriage is 40k baht. So there is no way you would get one with no income.

Having over 400k THB in a Thai bank account should fix that though. But how about for registering a marriage at Khet Bangrak? I've read some reports that a "nil" income was not accepted by the registrar.

As far as I know there is no minimum income requirement to get married. It is certainly not listed on anything I have seen.

See: http://thailawonline.com/en/family/marriage-in-thailand/legal-marriage.html

[henry15]

Today I went to immigration Nonthaburi. Affidavit from the belgian embassy was enough to prove my income. They did not askes any other statements what so ever.

But.

Thus year my yellow tabiuan was not enough. Because I'm a tenant they asked an

(Notification Form for House Master, Owner, or the Possessor of The Residence Where Aliens Have Stay (TM.30)

and not only that, but also a copy of the title deed.

This was never asked before. I even noticed that some people have been asked that the owner of their condo, must be present also with the title deed of the condo. They even send them away.

Luckily that was not so, in my case. But the told the Missis that I must bring it with me next year.

I don't know if this is a new rule, or only in Nonthaburi.