UK old rules

[athena6957]

My daughter in law is applying for indefinate leave to remain and is on the old rules for the uk - before 2012.

They have the required 30k in savings but need to know if my sons grandfather can also act as a sponsor with the money he has which is considerably more?

[athena6957]

Also due to my son and daughter in law living with me they don't have any gas or electric bills etc so does anyone know what the can sent in place of these.

They also do not have any letters at all in joint name.

[wooloomooloo]

Whoa. What an opening post.

Has your daughter in law passed LitUK test and B1 English test?

Your daughter in law will have to provide some sort of proof of address. Has she had driving lessons with correspondence from BSM or suchlike? Letters from the local college, doctors surgery, NI application and evidence of NI number, employer or the local council?

[MaprangHolmes]

Collect as many letters as you can in each of there names, I am assuming that your son is working so wage slips, bank statements would be required. As she will be applying under he old rules the financial requirement is much lower all they need to do is show that they can live with out the need to claim public funds. Which if your son has 30,000 in savings he would not be able to claim any means tested benefit as you are normal excluded if you have savings above 16,000. As a basic amount if they have an income above £110 per week exuding housing costs than they should meet the financial requirement.

[7by7]

As she is applying under the old rules there is no requirement to have any money in the bank; let alone £30K!

Neither is there a minimum income requirement.

The financial requirement under the old rules is that she and her husband, your son, must be able to support themselves without recourse to public funds.

In fact, your son can claim any and all public funds to which he may be entitled, as long as he does not claim any extra due to his wife living with him.

The exception to this is working tax credits. HMRC rules say these must be claimed jointly by a husband and wife, so if he is receiving these not only is his wife allowed to be included in the claim; she must be!

Third party financial support is allowed under the old rules; but if they have £30K in the bank I don't see the need for it.

Section 11 of form SET(M) gives examples of the sort of documents acceptable to show cohabitation over the two years.

[athena6957]

Thank you for the replies and apologies for being so late replying.

Yes she has passed both test -Life in the UK and English (?)

My son doesn't go out to work due to being my carer but is in the process of starting a business up as well as caring. The only benefit he claims is carers allowance, my daughter in law looks after her grand father in law, he is 91 years old and still going strong, but she isn't paid for doing this.

If she isn't granted ILTR then this house will be a very sad household as she is a wonderful person.

We wern't aware that they didn't need to have savings in the bank we genuinly thought the minimum was 30K, I feel so sorry for those who are on the new rules , from June 2012, it's very unfair.

Edited October 1, 2014 by athena6957

[bobrussell]

GP registration letters are good to have! Not all have to be in joint or daughter-in-laws name so with a bit of lateral thinking documents should be available. If in doubt your daughter-in-law can request a notification of tax code (even if no tax is due).

Sounds as if there is nothing to prevent her getting ILR. The paperwork is much more straightforward than previous visas. Biggest issue is the cost but at this stage everyone should be used to the UKVI fees!

At the risk of re-igniting a heated debate, my opinion is the new rules are not unfair in themselves but could be more flexible.

[athena6957]

Sorry if this is a silly question but do copies of the bills and mortgage that I pay have to be included?

If so do I have to find 6 letters also?

[Richard W]

Sorry if this is a silly question but do copies of the bills and mortgage that I pay have to be included?

The purpose of including the letters is to show that the couple live together. Bills sent to you are irrelevant in this regard.

[7by7]

Bills sent to you are irrelevant in this regard.

But bills sent to your son or your daughter in law can be used to show cohabitation; whether addressed to each of them individually or, better still, jointly.

As can any official or quasi official letter; bank statements, hospital appointment letters, letters from DWP or HMRC etc.

See section 11 of the form linked to above for more examples of what can be used.