PM will reward police team for resolving Koh Tao murder case

[MikePhuket1970]

The dark side of Thailand getting darker

[bongoz]

Not that I agree with the 'investigation' of these two murders. But shouldn't any reward be handed out AFTER a conviction has been won in court?

[LuukKoeyKorat]

True, I haven't read it

Good luck Thailand with your brave new world...that pretty much confirms your total naivety or confirms that you're taking the p*** out of everything else. *sigh*

I take it you haven't read Aldous Huxleys "Brave New World" Thailand had a similar type of Brave New World long before Huxley ever wrote it! you just have to read between the lines! to get the message!

[bongoz]

Stop the Thai bashing , if you don't like it why you're staying in Thailand? Go home to your perfect western world.

It's a FREE world with FREE SPEECH - If you don't LIKE IT don't read it!

[bongoz]

Stop the Thai bashing , if you don't like it why you're staying in Thailand? Go home to your perfect western world.

Oh.... My.... God....

Having read most of your posts I thought you were just a thai sympathiser but now I realise that you're either thai or delusional.

'If you don't like it, go home'? Ring any bells for anyone?

WHAT!!! An undercover agent biding their time...

[bongoz]

Stop the Thai bashing , if you don't like it why you're staying in Thailand? Go home to your perfect western world.

I am leaving Thailand. But not to my perfect western country. But to another Asian country where I feel more safe than in Thailand. Where the people can not kill me, my children, or my friends or my family and get away with it.

Happy now Balo?

No regards

Martin

Welcome to Cambodia

[bruceybonus]

I wonder what the reward would have been for catching the actual killers?

A bullet in the head!

[cassde]

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.

Only the subsequent trial and hopefully conviction of one or more of the suspects will go to show how thorough the investigation went. I am glad the General has stated openly that the investigation team has worked hard and maybe 'rewarded'. A 'reward' may not be any more than recognised Police Commendations for the investigating officers - often done in the UK and elsewhere.

In many murder investigations there are many services engaged, including the Forensic Service, which is obviously a very important part of this murder investigation because of the reliance of corroborating DNA evidence, and possibly other evidence that the police are, quite rightly,holding back on divulging to the media.

'Bashing' the investigation team is totally unhelpful, without first hand knowledge of the progress of any investigation. In a tourist spot, this is made very difficult because the population is transient, especially with (illegal?) migrant workers engaged in the tourist industry. As I said earlier, investigation has to be painstakingly thorough to achieve the right result - time will tell, but with 'confessions' and re-enactments to be tested in a Court of law and with the level of media interest in this case, I am sure the general public will learn more.

[Tazwa]

Pol Gen Somyot said that, "the phone is a key piece of evidence against the suspect." This is the phone they say was dumped by the Burmese suspect in bushes near his home.

Hmmm, so if the phone is a key piece of evidence against the suspect then what does that say about the police? They were allegedly given the victim's phone by her friend the next day'

Edited October 4, 2014 by Tazwa

[Fullstop]

Rewarding them for doing their job? I guess it's a rare enough occurrence. I had a Thai plumber successfully fix my toilet last week... can the PM reward him too?

Edited October 4, 2014 by Fullstop

[kingalfred]

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.

Only the subsequent trial and hopefully conviction of one or more of the suspects will go to show how thorough the investigation went. I am glad the General has stated openly that the investigation team has worked hard and maybe 'rewarded'. A 'reward' may not be any more than recognised Police Commendations for the investigating officers - often done in the UK and elsewhere.

In many murder investigations there are many services engaged, including the Forensic Service, which is obviously a very important part of this murder investigation because of the reliance of corroborating DNA evidence, and possibly other evidence that the police are, quite rightly,holding back on divulging to the media.

'Bashing' the investigation team is totally unhelpful, without first hand knowledge of the progress of any investigation. In a tourist spot, this is made very difficult because the population is transient, especially with (illegal?) migrant workers engaged in the tourist industry. As I said earlier, investigation has to be painstakingly thorough to achieve the right result - time will tell, but with 'confessions' and re-enactments to be tested in a Court of law and with the level of media interest in this case, I am sure the general public will learn more.

if you have knowledge of how the RTP operate mixed the culture of certain aspects of the country.

[yellowboat]

Sounds as though things are moving far too fast, which adds to the scepticism.

[kingalfred]

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.

Only the subsequent trial and hopefully conviction of one or more of the suspects will go to show how thorough the investigation went. I am glad the General has stated openly that the investigation team has worked hard and maybe 'rewarded'. A 'reward' may not be any more than recognised Police Commendations for the investigating officers - often done in the UK and elsewhere.

In many murder investigations there are many services engaged, including the Forensic Service, which is obviously a very important part of this murder investigation because of the reliance of corroborating DNA evidence, and possibly other evidence that the police are, quite rightly,holding back on divulging to the media.

'Bashing' the investigation team is totally unhelpful, without first hand knowledge of the progress of any investigation. In a tourist spot, this is made very difficult because the population is transient, especially with (illegal?) migrant workers engaged in the tourist industry. As I said earlier, investigation has to be painstakingly thorough to achieve the right result - time will tell, but with 'confessions' and re-enactments to be tested in a Court of law and with the level of media interest in this case, I am sure the general public will learn more.

if you have knowledge of how the RTP operate mixed with the culture of certain aspects of the country maybe you wouldnt say that,or maybe you do.

Edited October 4, 2014 by kingalfred

[MW72]

Upon conviction by a just court of law, I'm sure he meant.

The trial and conviction of the suspects seems to be missing. I'm sure that would be required before praise or rewards can be dished out. Sounds like the outcome of the trial has already been prejudged if not prearranged.

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[socksy01]

You really just couldn't make this <deleted> up. Praise and reward <deleted>?

[MikePhuket1970]

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.

Only the subsequent trial and hopefully conviction of one or more of the suspects will go to show how thorough the investigation went. I am glad the General has stated openly that the investigation team has worked hard and maybe 'rewarded'. A 'reward' may not be any more than recognised Police Commendations for the investigating officers - often done in the UK and elsewhere.

In many murder investigations there are many services engaged, including the Forensic Service, which is obviously a very important part of this murder investigation because of the reliance of corroborating DNA evidence, and possibly other evidence that the police are, quite rightly,holding back on divulging to the media.

'Bashing' the investigation team is totally unhelpful, without first hand knowledge of the progress of any investigation. In a tourist spot, this is made very difficult because the population is transient, especially with (illegal?) migrant workers engaged in the tourist industry. As I said earlier, investigation has to be painstakingly thorough to achieve the right result - time will tell, but with 'confessions' and re-enactments to be tested in a Court of law and with the level of media interest in this case, I am sure the general public will learn more.

Excuse me Mr.Case officer but your judgement about the RTP is just horrific optimistic

[richusa]

i hope these young kids avoid this island like the plague.......The top cops already got paid by the head clownsman of the island.

[stevepompey]

Reward for police doing their jobs.

Scam and coverup.

poohstick - good choice of name for your comments.

Defend a Thai even when it is obvious they are wrong non caring idiots.

[Number 3]

Pm speaks up now that Patsys are found and without any trial

Or even legal representation for the boys.

Pm you are no different to those before you.

Your words on corruption that led me to believe you were a good guy and a noble man has been grossly misplaced

Prayuth Shinawatr is how I will think of you from now on.

I hope the world sees this for what it is. Now I understand why you remained quiet and uninvolved and uncaring.

Same same and not different.

[catweazle]

If he had a brain, he would order that an international team of forensics and crime investigators do an independent investigation and not honor them for framing a few immigrant workers who not even have proper IDs. I'm very diappointed

Edited October 4, 2014 by catweazle

[catweazle]

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.

Only the subsequent trial and hopefully conviction of one or more of the suspects will go to show how thorough the investigation went. I am glad the General has stated openly that the investigation team has worked hard and maybe 'rewarded'. A 'reward' may not be any more than recognised Police Commendations for the investigating officers - often done in the UK and elsewhere.

In many murder investigations there are many services engaged, including the Forensic Service, which is obviously a very important part of this murder investigation because of the reliance of corroborating DNA evidence, and possibly other evidence that the police are, quite rightly,holding back on divulging to the media.

'Bashing' the investigation team is totally unhelpful, without first hand knowledge of the progress of any investigation. In a tourist spot, this is made very difficult because the population is transient, especially with (illegal?) migrant workers engaged in the tourist industry. As I said earlier, investigation has to be painstakingly thorough to achieve the right result - time will tell, but with 'confessions' and re-enactments to be tested in a Court of law and with the level of media interest in this case, I am sure the general public will learn more.

Excuse me Mr.Case officer but your judgement about the RTP is just horrific optimistic

Cassde - never thought anyone could type that much naive nonsense in such a short time... Ignorance is bliss in your case. Completely clueless patsies walked and directed through the re-enactment proves guilt to you? Stop watching Care Bears, Bambi or whatever your muse is and open your eyes to reality!

[Khun Paul]

I would have thought he would have waited until a conviction by the courts. Oh silly me, once charged convicted no appeal, this after all is Thailand, your guilty unless the court agrees with you which in this case would be highly unlikely. So lets reward the incompetence NOW and move onto the next problem.

[SamuiAxe]

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.<SNIP>

Finally! After struggling through pages of negative remarks I finally found a comment that is worth reading! Thanks for that, I agree 100% with you!

Think about this: If the Police was really desperate to find a few scapegoats then why not shoot and kill a few Burmese guys and plant evidence on them? That would have been so much more easy then keeping them alive.. But they are alive and if they are really innocent then they will speak up someday.

Edited October 4, 2014 by SamuiAxe

[BoristheBlade]

Were you the case officer of the Jimmy Saville case?

If you a former case officer, words fail me, have you followed this case???

Did you see the crime scene photos on day one....explain how a member of the public can be in attendence, a member of the public who became a prime suspect?

Thgis is the RTP were talking about, not one of the most respected police forces in the world.

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.

Only the subsequent trial and hopefully conviction of one or more of the suspects will go to show how thorough the investigation went. I am glad the General has stated openly that the investigation team has worked hard and maybe 'rewarded'. A 'reward' may not be any more than recognised Police Commendations for the investigating officers - often done in the UK and elsewhere.

In many murder investigations there are many services engaged, including the Forensic Service, which is obviously a very important part of this murder investigation because of the reliance of corroborating DNA evidence, and possibly other evidence that the police are, quite rightly,holding back on divulging to the media.

'Bashing' the investigation team is totally unhelpful, without first hand knowledge of the progress of any investigation. In a tourist spot, this is made very difficult because the population is transient, especially with (illegal?) migrant workers engaged in the tourist industry. As I said earlier, investigation has to be painstakingly thorough to achieve the right result - time will tell, but with 'confessions' and re-enactments to be tested in a Court of law and with the level of media interest in this case, I am sure the general public will learn more.

[pisico]

"General Prayuth said he could not predict that tourism situation would be improved or not after the successful resolving of the murder case because there are other factors which may have impacts on the tourism industry."

Other factors? Like they didn't get the real murderers and covered up the case by presenting to the public the scapegoats?

Scapegoats? No, no...! the powers that be vociferously deny.

TSK, TSK. TSK !!! Will Farang ever will understand Thainess

Some Thais know better and stay silent, others don't but stay silent and the majority of Thais, even if they know better, they remain silent.

In dysfunctional Thailand There are rewards for doing the job they are paid to do but seldom do.

In Thailand those caught (key word) doing something wrong, are not sacked; they are moved to a special Department of inactive posts.

If you think that the phrase: "Round up the usual suspects!" originated in Casablanca, think again.

[WhizBang]

This I did not expect from the PM

Looked like he did a good job - until now

I am very disappointed

As am I. I have now lost all faith in the general and it is now quite obvious that absolutely nothing will change in Thailand.

[balo]

And the Thai bashing continues.....

I don't know if you can see the history of my posts, but I generally only post when I have something informative or positive to say. My mother taught me "if you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all". I've been a member for many years and have relatively few posts.

Also, if you can review my previous posts, you'll see that I've never engaged in "recreational Thai bashing". Indeed, you'll see that I've generally defended Thais. I believe to this day (having lived here 8 years) that the average Thai is a very caring and moral person.

I won't defend their driving habits, but that another issue. I will also say that the police are the last people here I would call for help; that, also, is another issue.

I love living in this tropical paradise among some of the most beautiful people I've ever known; that's why I'm here and hope to never leave. For sure I'm not living in Kansas anymore Toto, but everyday is a bit of new adventure and I love it.

"Foreigners" are always an easy scapegoat anywhere, not just here. For sure, sometimes they are the culprits. My own personal experience is that my next eldest brother was murdered by Nicaraguans in Los Angeles (who fled the country the same day). Sure it happens.

All that said, I have some very disturbing "gut feel" ("sniff test") concerns about what is happening here. We should not forget that migrant workers are probably here just trying to find a better life for their families back home, which I think any of us would be doing in similar circumstances.

I simply hope that the real culprits are identified, and most importantly, the families involved can find some peace and closure.

So its all based on this feeling you have something is not right .

Yes its easy to think this is a setup , very easy TIT. I try to look at it from both sides.

If you think they planted the DNA on scapegoats to fool the whole world, fine thats your privilege to think that , together with a whole bunch of other expats and Thais who feel the same as you do.

Of course migrant workers are in Thailand to find a better life.

But a killer can be anyone , what is the fact here is that 80% of the workers on this island are immigrants , not thais At least thats a fact . So why would a hi so influential Thai destroy his business and the whole reputation of the family business by suddenly killing two tourists?

So if we look at the odds here , I would say its more likely that the arrested guys did it than they are picked as scapegoats after a 3 week chase by RTP,

Edited October 4, 2014 by balo

[givenall]

May be he should wait tI'll they show British author that everything up and up

[rickirs]

In many countries giving financial rewards to law enforcement is corruption. It only encourages unethical and immoral police behavior to push the envelope on investigations to do whatever is necessary to get an indictment. And while the accused have confessed, remember they have not been tried and convicted. Will now more "crimes" be uncovered and indictments made with further expectations of a reward? But here it's Thainess.

[Always18]

Note the careful use of the phrase "resolving the Koh Tao Murder case"..........................a world of difference from "solving the Koh Tao murder case".

Not just sloppy phrasing, I suspect....................