webfact Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Bus operators demand fare hikeBy Coconuts BangkokWhat’s good for the taxis is good for the buses.BANGKOK: -- Bus operators yesterday petitioned the Ministry of Transport for fare hikes to offset a decade of cost increases.Wittaya Premchit of the Bus Operator Network said the organization is requesting fares increase by THB2 for both air-conditioned and non-airconditioned buses, as he claimed the operators have collected fares lower than the net cost (THB9.6) for almost 10 years now.The fare for a non-airconditioned bus is currently THB8 and THB12-22 for those equipped with air conditioning. Over 30 percent of all 3,800 bus operators in Thailand have not seen profit in recent years, Witthaya added, and they will be forced to stop running if fares are not adjusted by end of this year.Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co//2014/10/09/bus-operators-demand-fare-hike-- Coconuts Manila 2014-10-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 How about they get these stank a$$ old buses off the road, the drivers are a hazard to others and the emissions are surely less than safe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metapod Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) so busses, taxis, and songtaews, and bts/mrt all want/getting price hikes? one of the best things about thailand and bkk is the affordable and abundant transport. should be a priority to keep it that way. Edited October 9, 2014 by Metapod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 If the authorities allow them to raise their fees, will they promise to stop busses all the way at the curb? No more playing 'Frogger' with riders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suriya4 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Will they provide Free WiFi after the fare hike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mramazing Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I see inflation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Now, everybody who rides the buses or takes a taxi is going to demand a wage increase to pay for the buses and taxis. And around and around and around we go. And where we stop, nobody knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Now, everybody who rides the buses or takes a taxi is going to demand a wage increase to pay for the buses and taxis. And around and around and around we go. And where we stop, nobody knows. That's the junta aim.....to make all thais happy, return happiness to thais. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 The fares listed are not true govt buses like the one in the pic are 7.5 baht and air con can be much higher than 22 baht, who writes this rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy B Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Thailand should adopt a new transit system. Park and ride, this has been in operation for years in the Uk's big cities. You drive your car to a large car park outside of the center. You pay the parking rate for the day and this gives you a ticket to use for buses to shuttle you into the city and return later. Plus adding stops for people on the way to get on and off the bus following a set route. Much better than thousands of individuals all driving their cars to work. Bkk would need at least 5 park and ride car parks set up in different areas but it can work. Plus the car park will have 24 hrs security if its the same as the UK. Just an idea but maybe to logical to work here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 People park and ride already, or do you think all those cars in tesco and big c are shoppers? We leave out car all day at big c and catch the bus, it's more than 22 baht as well! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 People park and ride already, or do you think all those cars in tesco and big c are shoppers? We leave out car all day at big c and catch the bus, it's more than 22 baht as well! LOL hes right a large amount of Thais I know use the big malls as a park n ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKdreaming Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 will the free non airco buses still be free ? at 8 baht for as far as you want to ride they are a great deal if its not too hot or raining and the wood floors ones are cool too Who needs "safe" the driver has his shrine in front of him to protect us all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherd3 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Now, everybody who rides the buses or takes a taxi is going to demand a wage increase to pay for the buses and taxis. And around and around and around we go. And where we stop, nobody knows. No different to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apiwan2 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Thailand should adopt a new transit system. Park and ride, this has been in operation for years in the Uk's big cities. You drive your car to a large car park outside of the center. You pay the parking rate for the day and this gives you a ticket to use for buses to shuttle you into the city and return later. Plus adding stops for people on the way to get on and off the bus following a set route. Much better than thousands of individuals all driving their cars to work. Bkk would need at least 5 park and ride car parks set up in different areas but it can work. Plus the car park will have 24 hrs security if its the same as the UK. Just an idea but maybe to logical to work here! People do already. You can park at latproaw underground and ride from there.not free though. But quicker and easier. Big C in rama 4 has horrendous parking charges . To stop the free parkers . We've got clamping just coming in . And it is working round latproaw. The worst culprit is the pink buses running latproaw rd from JJ to bang kapi. He will pick up kerbside or as good as damn it . Then immediately push over to the far right lane. Then back when the bus stop comes up. What a dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonarax Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 You'd have to pay me to get on a bus. What century did you buy your bus system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangfroid Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) People park and ride already, or do you think all those cars in tesco and big c are shoppers? We leave out car all day at big c and catch the bus, it's more than 22 baht as well! Living in Huay Khwang, I very often park at Big C Ratchada and take the MRT into Sukhumvit or elsewhere . Cheap and convenient. The first three hours parking is free! the next hour costs 20 baht. Edited October 10, 2014 by sangfroid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) so busses, taxis, and songtaews, and bts/mrt all want/getting price hikes? one of the best things about thailand and bkk is the affordable and abundant transport. should be a priority to keep it that way. I wouldn't call them cheap. Driving your own car is cheaper (especially if you have a family) and much more convenient if you are carrying things like shopping or bags. Edited October 10, 2014 by Time Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangfroid Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Thailand should adopt a new transit system. Park and ride, this has been in operation for years in the Uk's big cities. You drive your car to a large car park outside of the center. You pay the parking rate for the day and this gives you a ticket to use for buses to shuttle you into the city and return later. Plus adding stops for people on the way to get on and off the bus following a set route. Much better than thousands of individuals all driving their cars to work. Bkk would need at least 5 park and ride car parks set up in different areas but it can work. Plus the car park will have 24 hrs security if its the same as the UK. Just an idea but maybe to logical to work here! People do already. You can park at latproaw underground and ride from there.not free though. But quicker and easier. Big C in rama 4 has horrendous parking charges . To stop the free parkers . We've got clamping just coming in . And it is working round latproaw. The worst culprit is the pink buses running latproaw rd from JJ to bang kapi. He will pick up kerbside or as good as damn it . Then immediately push over to the far right lane. Then back when the bus stop comes up. What a dick [big C in rama 4 has horrendous parking charges ] Just how horrendous?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 parking at our local big c is free, otherwise mrs would not use it! other than that there is free parking at the local wat and truck from there. If all these folks did not already park out of town imagine what the traffic would be like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 so busses, taxis, and songtaews, and bts/mrt all want/getting price hikes? one of the best things about thailand and bkk is the affordable and abundant transport. should be a priority to keep it that way. I wouldn't call them cheap. Driving your own car is cheaper. I don't see how you could travel 25 kilometers for 20+ baht in a car, even a gas one, never mind the other car expenses like insurance etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) so busses, taxis, and songtaews, and bts/mrt all want/getting price hikes? one of the best things about thailand and bkk is the affordable and abundant transport. should be a priority to keep it that way. I wouldn't call them cheap. Driving your own car is cheaper. I don't see how you could travel 25 kilometers for 20+ baht in a car, even a gas one, never mind the other car expenses like insurance etc. I don't see how you could travel 25 kiliometers for 20 baht on a bus either, unless the bus line travels from your point A to point B. In reality, mostly you need to travel from point A to point C to get a bus to take you to point D and then connecting transport to point B. For most regular trips, like to school or shopping less than 5 km from home, car is much cheaper and especially when you a travelling with your family and dealing with multiple bus/train tickets. In my case, even to get a bus, I have to either walk almost a kilometer to get the correct one or pay extra for taxi to the bus stop. 1 liter of gas is only 38Bt....10kms/L driving efficiency. Edited October 10, 2014 by Time Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apiwan2 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Thailand should adopt a new transit system. Park and ride, this has been in operation for years in the Uk's big cities. You drive your car to a large car park outside of the center. You pay the parking rate for the day and this gives you a ticket to use for buses to shuttle you into the city and return later. Plus adding stops for people on the way to get on and off the bus following a set route. Much better than thousands of individuals all driving their cars to work. Bkk would need at least 5 park and ride car parks set up in different areas but it can work. Plus the car park will have 24 hrs security if its the same as the UK. Just an idea but maybe to logical to work here!People do already.You can park at latproaw underground and ride from there.not free though. But quicker and easier. Big C in rama 4 has horrendous parking charges . To stop the free parkers . We've got clamping just coming in . And it is working round latproaw. The worst culprit is the pink buses running latproaw rd from JJ to bang kapi. He will pick up kerbside or as good as damn it . Then immediately push over to the far right lane. Then back when the bus stop comes up. What a dick [big C in rama 4 has horrendous parking charges ]Just how horrendous?? Can't remember. But wanted to park there during office hours. Say 8 till 6. There's a price deterrent for long stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 People park and ride already, or do you think all those cars in tesco and big c are shoppers? We leave out car all day at big c and catch the bus, it's more than 22 baht as well! I don't think the bosses of Tesco or Big C will be too happy at their customers not having spaces to park their cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) The "Me too" attitude strikes again! Rice growers get a subsidy, "Me too, me too" yell the rubber growers. Jet-skis still working on the beaches "Me too, me too" yell the sun-bed renters. Meter taxis in Phuket get a fare hike "Me too, me too" yell the green-plate taxis. This country is drowning in greed........and not a single person strong enough to yell "ENOUGH"! (not even if they have guns and tanks) Edited October 10, 2014 by KarenBravo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 so busses, taxis, and songtaews, and bts/mrt all want/getting price hikes? one of the best things about thailand and bkk is the affordable and abundant transport. should be a priority to keep it that way. I wouldn't call them cheap. Driving your own car is cheaper (especially if you have a family) and much more convenient if you are carrying things like shopping or bags. Have you ever used public transport anywhere else in the world? Try taking a taxi anywhere in London or Paris. See how much you have to pay for a 50 mile train journey elsewhere. As Metapod said, it is cheap and abundant. Maybe not 5* quality but then peanuts..... monkeys etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Now, everybody who rides the buses or takes a taxi is going to demand a wage increase to pay for the buses and taxis. And around and around and around we go. And where we stop, nobody knows. I'm going to guess we'll stop off at economic crisis alley just after inflation towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcp0761 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Haha - welcome to the rest of the world re: inflation. First a taxi hike is approved and now bus operators. Next will include the BTS and it will continue so Thailand looses it attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKdreaming Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Haha - welcome to the rest of the world re: inflation. First a taxi hike is approved and now bus operators. Next will include the BTS and it will continue so Thailand looses it attraction. you spend $1000 plus to fly there , 1500 plus baht a night for hotel and you think adding 5 or 10 baht to a bus journey is going to keep them away ? normal tourist do not take the city bus anyway , so they need to maybe spend another 20 baht for a taxi ride..... What will keep them away is getting killed or beat up . and seeing that on their local TV at home every week , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) "Over 30 percent of all 3,800 bus operators in Thailand have not seen profit in recent years, Witthaya added, and they will be forced to stop running if fares are not adjusted by end of this year." There must be some Thai logic in this sentence, but I am not sure I will ever understand it.... If you increase the fares, then this will probably attract more people to operate unprofitable buses ?? Edited October 12, 2014 by bangon04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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