French national nabbed in under-age sex and drugs den

[Jeremy50]

I don't know which one is worse. The Frenchie who wants to have sex with a 14-year old girl? Or a Thai woman willing take 700 baht to find a 14-year old Thai girl for him to have sex with?! Both should be locked up and the keys thrown away.

Agreed if all is as it seems

BUT.........some questions before we hang this guy...How well does he know Thai girls? how long has he been here? Was he looking for underage girls or was he conned into it by this Mrs.Prapaporn who told him she was e.g.19 years old?

If she can stoop low enough to peddle underage girls then imo she wouldn't hesitate to lie to an unsupecting Farang

Probably none of that matters to the police but he wouldn't be the first one to have taken a Thai at there word only to find out lying is the name of the game.

Some one mentioned it earlier, most of them look much younger here ... a girl who is 14, looks like 10-11. So he should be aware that this was a child

My goodness, there is some nonsense being written here, I teach Thai 14 year old girls and they look 14. Most are slim which could make one or two appear 13. Some weigh 14 stone and look 20. I have never seen any that could pass for 10!

[orosee]

What if he fall in love with this girl and wanted to marry her and paid dowry (700 bath) to mother, who unfortuantely, later come up as dirty woman who was making money? hahaha Just today I read that some 19 yo thai guy had 17 yo thai GF and it was not treated as illegal... hahaha I love those doubt standards for locals and for foreigners...

p.s. I am not protecting that <deleted>, I am just giving an example how perfect our law it (not just Thai, but in general)

Last minute pitch for dumbest post of the week? You have my vote!

[Gonki]

What will his mom say?

[cardinalblue]

If the girl was dressed up to look like a whore, a good lawyer could get him off not knowing her age or what the woman Said to the man is critical...

His knowledge and background with Thailand will also factor int it...given the location and circumstances makes it a very cloudy case...

This scenario plays out daily in Pattaya and other sex hot spots and isnt just foreign customers...think about all the brothels in no name towns serving ethnic minorities and SEA neighboring girls and boys...

[GertrudeL]

What if he fall in love with this girl and wanted to marry her and paid dowry (700 bath) to mother, who unfortuantely, later come up as dirty woman who was making money? hahaha Just today I read that some 19 yo thai guy had 17 yo thai GF and it was not treated as illegal... hahaha I love those doubt standards for locals and for foreigners...

p.s. I am not protecting that <deleted>, I am just giving an example how perfect our law it (not just Thai, but in general)

Last minute pitch for dumbest post of the week? You have my vote!

oh... sorry, I did not know that you were cheated and paid it... hahahaha

[KittenKong]

On Beach Road at night plenty of people have trouble telling what gender the hookers are, let alone their age.

[mancub]

What will his mom say?

What will the girl's mom say, and what happens to the girl herself next ?

[Teddy3943]

I don't know which one is worse. The Frenchie who wants to have sex with a 14-year old girl? Or a Thai woman willing take 700 baht to find a 14-year old Thai girl for him to have sex with?! Both should be locked up and the keys thrown away.

Agreed if all is as it seems

BUT.........some questions before we hang this guy...How well does he know Thai girls? how long has he been here? Was he looking for underage girls or was he conned into it by this Mrs.Prapaporn who told him she was e.g.19 years old?

If she can stoop low enough to peddle underage girls then imo she wouldn't hesitate to lie to an unsupecting Farang

Probably none of that matters to the police but he wouldn't be the first one to have taken a Thai at there word only to find out lying is the name of the game.

Some one mentioned it earlier, most of them look much younger here ... a girl who is 14, looks like 10-11. So he should be aware that this was a child

The opposite happens to be too: Sometimes I see a dancing show at a festival and the girls look like in their 20's. Maybe if you take off alle make-up they'll look more like their real age.

[GertrudeL]

What will the girl's mom say, and what happens to the girl herself next ?

Do you believe she was forced to do this kind of business? You underestimate people laziness and power of easy money... If she was forced then only by her parent's requests, you have to dig dipper in culture to understand it.

[harrycallahan]

What about these?

"Plus the officials went to inspect another room and found Mr.Samreng Ayamueng aged 38 and Ms.Atchara Wichaiwong aged 23 who were having sex and they were also drug addicts."

Adults having sex, in Pattaya!

And the police determined they weren't just drug users but dependent addicts. These are super police. (*cough* Timothy W *cough*)

[belg]

just wondering if this "girl" is known in other cases like this ... will she be put in juvenile detention for sollicitation ?

or just released on her own / parents to start again tomorrow ?

[VINCENT2012]

i am french but these kind of sick people i just can not stand them nor understand them.

i hope he will pay an high price for that matter and the thai people involved too.

our world has to get rid of these sexual maniac

[orosee]

What if he fall in love with this girl and wanted to marry her and paid dowry (700 bath) to mother, who unfortuantely, later come up as dirty woman who was making money? hahaha Just today I read that some 19 yo thai guy had 17 yo thai GF and it was not treated as illegal... hahaha I love those doubt standards for locals and for foreigners...

p.s. I am not protecting that <deleted>, I am just giving an example how perfect our law it (not just Thai, but in general)

Last minute pitch for dumbest post of the week? You have my vote!

oh... sorry, I did not know that you were cheated and paid it... hahahaha

You have no idea what I was talking about, right?

[Lupatria]

Also from the Penal Code Amendment Act of 1997 Section 283bis, having sex with a child under 18 is a compoundable offense even with the consent of that person.

Is this known in Isan where 14 year old kids get officially married or being send into 'illegal' prostitution to benefit the family?

[GertrudeL]

What if he fall in love with this girl and wanted to marry her and paid dowry (700 bath) to mother, who unfortuantely, later come up as dirty woman who was making money? hahaha Just today I read that some 19 yo thai guy had 17 yo thai GF and it was not treated as illegal... hahaha I love those doubt standards for locals and for foreigners...

p.s. I am not protecting that <deleted>, I am just giving an example how perfect our law it (not just Thai, but in general)

Last minute pitch for dumbest post of the week? You have my vote!

oh... sorry, I did not know that you were cheated and paid it... hahahaha

You have no idea what I was talking about, right?

Was there any common sense? hahaha I like people like you, please continue hahaha

[Baerboxer]

i am french but these kind of sick people i just can not stand them nor understand them.

i hope he will pay an high price for that matter and the thai people involved too.

our world has to get rid of these sexual maniac

Agree with you. But this is not nationality dependent. The sex pervert scumbags are to be found in all nationalities.

The caveat here though, is that things in Thailand are never quite what they seem.

[GertrudeL]

Also from the Penal Code Amendment Act of 1997 Section 283bis, having sex with a child under 18 is a compoundable offense even with the consent of that person.

Is this known in Isan where 14 year old kids get officially married or being send into 'illegal' prostitution to benefit the family?

Who told you that? There are no sex under 18, they just sleep together as far as I know, husband wait until she gets 18... as for kids they get, I was told that babes are found in cabbage lol

Edited October 12, 2014 by GertrudeL

[GertrudeL]

i am french but these kind of sick people i just can not stand them nor understand them.

i hope he will pay an high price for that matter and the thai people involved too.

our world has to get rid of these sexual maniac

Agree with you. But this is not nationality dependent. The sex pervert scumbags are to be found in all nationalities.

The caveat here though, is that things in Thailand are never quite what they seem.

One such pervert in Norway will get married to 12 your old kid TODAY, so no need to say bull ... about moral on forum then you have perversion on government level, just saying...

[kwaussie]

The front desk at Hotel should have stopped this when checking the fourteen year olds I.D. and reported it to Police.

[ggt]

This goes on all too often...

What IS news...is that the police acted upon the information and made an arrest...

Kudos to the police in this instance...

[DCvincens]

i am french but these kind of sick people i just can not stand them nor understand them.

i hope he will pay an high price for that matter and the thai people involved too.

our world has to get rid of these sexual maniac

Agree with you. But this is not nationality dependent. The sex pervert scumbags are to be found in all nationalities.

The caveat here though, is that things in Thailand are never quite what they seem.

One such pervert in Norway will get married to 12 your old kid TODAY, so no need to say bull ... about moral on forum then you have perversion on government level, just saying...

That was a staged wedding (as in not real) by a human rights group to draw attention to this practice in OTHER cultures. You obviously dont know much about Norway. Or facts.

[GertrudeL]

The front desk at Hotel should have stopped this when checking the fourteen year olds I.D. and reported it to Police.

Very smart and 100% correct remark! I had doubt about this case when I read 700... I am not expert but as far as I know girl in agogo bar will cost min 1500... The illegal underage girl must cost more and not a half price... Seems like it was predefined show

[GertrudeL]

i am french but these kind of sick people i just can not stand them nor understand them.

i hope he will pay an high price for that matter and the thai people involved too.

our world has to get rid of these sexual maniac

Agree with you. But this is not nationality dependent. The sex pervert scumbags are to be found in all nationalities.

The caveat here though, is that things in Thailand are never quite what they seem.

One such pervert in Norway will get married to 12 your old kid TODAY, so no need to say bull ... about moral on forum then you have perversion on government level, just saying...

That was a staged wedding (as in not real) by a human rights group to draw attention to this practice in OTHER cultures. You obviously dont know much about Norway. Or facts.

I know much more than shown on TV, including teaching sex in school to kids starting from 4 years... (civilized europe) and guy who spent one day in prison because his kid skip those amoral, perverted lessons. As it was claimed, kid has right to get sexual education (4 year old kids!)

Edited October 12, 2014 by GertrudeL

[BritManToo]

I have seen Thai girls in their 20s who look very young. In the case of this person I wonder if he considered that the girl was under age. Also, what is the age of consent in Thailand? In all likelihood what will happen to this guy? Just wondering.

I think he knew what he was doing

Age of consent in France is 15 (no conditions).

Age of consent in Spain (next door to France) is 13.

Seems a bit strange to come all the way to Thailand to make it a crime.

PS

If guy agrees to marry the 14YO Thai girl, with her and her parents consent, all charges will be dropped.

Edited October 12, 2014 by BritManToo

[Just1Voice]

Was at a friend's party about 7 years ago, before I got married. Had a girl come up and start talking to me. Carried herself well, good English. She suggested we leave the party for more "fun". Was seriously thinking about it when my friend, who is a cop, motioned me over and whispered in my ear - "She's only 13. Seriously." I was floored, thinking her about 22-24. I told her that I had to go and left quick, fast and in as hurry. Alone.

[mikiea]

what, no finger point ?

[Cantankerous]

Oh my, how suspect are you now..? Just wondering...

[mesquite]

I know a girl in Bangkok, now a good friend who I was convinced was probably about 17 tops when I met her so stayed away from taking it further as it was a bit too close to call (so I thought) - it turned out she was a 31 year old mum with 3 kids !! You can automatically take 10-15 years off most Thai Women under 40 so its a minefield out there!

This boils down to could he have reasonably have known? Remember Polanski being banned from the USA for having sex with a minor, (also 14) yet check out that 'minor' - not a man on earth would have placed her under 25!

Still I doubt sense is going to get far when you've got 'Hang em High' comments !!

Roman Polanski did not have sex with a precocious teenage girl. He anally raped a 13 (not 14) yo girl. She begged him to stop and he kept raping her. These were from the girl's statements. She never changed her story.

Further, he was never banned from the US. He plead guilty to a lesser charge and then fled the US while out on bail when he found out he would go to jail instead of getting probation. He was always free to return, but he would have been arrested and thrown in jail.

[TheSwede99]

Don't worry after he serve is jail term in Thailand, he'll send to jail in France too....

French national who commit crime in foreign country will be prosecute too in France.....

One Crime two times in Jail.......

It can not be right?

I know that if I could sneak back home to Sweden from a crime here in Thailand then I could get the sentence in Sweden.

If I served a sentence in Thailand then I can not be tried again for the same offense.

It should be the same in whole or EU?

[Cantankerous]

To all those trying to justify or give reason that this nonce didn't know the girl was under age or was duped into believing she was older than she was, you are as sick as the #$&! arrested... It's a 14 year old &lt;deleted&gt;, make up or not only someone devoid of a moral compass would reason that she looked older, she's a child...