Manchester City

[alfieconn]

1 minute ago, mrbojangles said:

 

We haven't "thrown" money at the team, it's called investment and my post above explains why.

 

You play great football and have had some great youth come through the academy but you gotta start doing something differently (and no, I'm not saying do the same as us) if you want to win something. Or are you happy finishing in the top 4 year on year, with the odd top 6 and then the odd top 2?

 

You don't get it do you ? the only teams that win the League are the ones that are one of the Biggest spenders apart from the anomaly being Leicester, tell me the last time  a team won the League  that wasn't one of the big spenders ?

[alfieconn]

9 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

Your net spend will get bigger soon too. -150m bigger once kane is gone and no matter how big the youth conveyor belt is, kanes do not appear so often and without his exploits it is back to average. 

 

Rc, stick to talking about Flip flops 

[carmine]

23 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

Your net spend will get bigger soon too. -150m bigger once kane is gone and no matter how big the youth conveyor belt is, kanes do not appear so often and without his exploits it is back to average. 

 

Yawn.  Clearly you have forgotten that we won all nine games in his absence last season.  When you were again and wrongly again talking about how we'd implode, lose our players and all the usual cobblers.  Change the record!!

[mrbojangles]

38 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

 

You don't get it do you ? the only teams that win the League are the ones that are one of the Biggest spenders apart from the anomaly being Leicester, tell me the last time  a team won the League  that wasn't one of the big spenders ?

 

I think it's you who doesn't get it alfie. Either that, or you aren't bothering to read what I actually post. I know it's the biggest spenders who usually win and that's why I'm trying to explain our business model and asking you if you are content not winning and just finishing top 4 etc

[mrbojangles]

23 minutes ago, carmine said:

 Change the record!!

 

Mmmm. Same could be said of the net spend comments

[alfieconn]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

 

Carms. It's getting tiring writing it constantly. Our owners have a totally different business model to Spurs and we have attempted to explain the situation several times on here.

 

When our owners bought us, they had a vision, which was to make us a top club, challenging for Prem title and Champs league. To do this took a lot of investment and due to FFP, the project had to be hastened at a faster pace than the owners initially wanted. It was either spend big then or not be able to do it at all. They chose the former and since they took over, we have won the prem twice and going further in the champs league. We have also grown our revenue beyond belief and have entered the top 5, yes top 5 richest club's in the world by turnover.

 

This means that the huge investments they have made, are paying off in increased revenues. You guys keep using net spend figures alone and your net spend is admirable but I personally don't agree that net spend on players alone is a mark of success.  To me, footballers are assets that you buy to win you things and then sell when you have had the best out of them. Therefore, if you bought players for a total of 300m but they have generated 500m of revenue by winning titles and then got back 25% of the original purchase price, it's good business. I don't believe that's better to use them as a commodity that you buy for as cheap as possible, to then sell on to other clubs when they are at their peak for big money. What message are you sending out? Some may say that you are a selling club with no ambition.

 

You have your beliefs how a club should be run and I have mine

What about all the years you have spent big without winning the league, you talk like you win the league every year and you've only won it twice for christ sake even with all the spending !!

And you seem to be working on the assumption that teams always win the League after spending big money, take yourselves for instance, since the  last time  you won the League you have bought players for 408m up to 2016/2017  so i take it that must be bad business being as you haven't won a title in that time ?  let's face it your an Arab's play thing nothing else, business model, what let's throw as much money as we can  to enable us to win things.

 

 

Edited October 4, 2017 by alfieconn

[Bredbury Blue]

Seems that Spurs fans are very impressed with their own net spend judging by how often they drop by - especially Alfie - to go on about it. Unfortunately having a lower net spend than City and other teams doesn't equate to winning trophies though does it, and we all know how winning the championship has eluded them for over 56 years and counting so clearly they ain't do something right.

Maybe they need to find an owner who is willing to move them to the next level which will involve buying expensive top quality buys instead of bargain-bin players.

So revel in your net spend spurs boys while the rest of us enjoy laughing at your posturing on your wonderful net spend.

And just why is it that they prefer to come on the City pages rather than say their local rivals Chelsea or ManU pages and talking about net spend? Is it an inferiority complex to those 2 clubs or is it jealousy of City that makes them such regulars here? There used to be a way to see how many posts a poster had made on each forum topic and I remember Alfie and Carmine used to be in the top posters on the City forum...laughable!

[smokie36]

1 hour ago, Rc2702 said:

Your net spend will get bigger soon too. -150m bigger once kane is gone and no matter how big the youth conveyor belt is, kanes do not appear so often and without his exploits it is back to average. 

 

 

He has a contract until 2022.

[Rc2702]

Just now, Bredbury Blue said:

Seems that Spurs fans are very impressed with their own net spend judging by how often they drop by - especially Alfie - to go on about it. Unfortunately having a lower net spend than City and other teams doesn't equate to winning trophies though does it, and we all know how winning the championship has eluded them for over 56 years and counting so clearly they ain't do something right.

Maybe they need to find an owner who is willing to move them to the next level which will involve buying expensive top quality buys instead of bargain-bin players.

So revel in your net spend spurs boys while the rest of us enjoy laughing at your posturing on your wonderful net spend.

And just why is it that they prefer to come on the City pages rather than say their local rivals Chelsea or ManU pages and talking about net spend? Is it an inferiority complex to those 2 clubs or is it jealousy of City that makes them such regulars here? There used to be a way to see how many posts a poster had made on each forum topic and I remember Alfie and Carmine used to be in the top posters on the City forum...laughable!

It's a weird phenomenon with the spurs fans on here. All of them are never really serious about getting silverware they all chant the net spend mantra and they all seem overjoyed to simply be playing good football. Take kane out of that team and those 2nd places become 6th or lower based on his goals=points input to date.

 

Have you ever been by the old stadium and seen how ugly spurs fans are btw?

 

I swear I thought they were a bunch of miners leaving work or something. Grubby.

[Bredbury Blue]

^You should have finished your post after the first paragraph.

[mrbojangles]

35 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

let's face it your an Arab's play thing nothing else

 

And on that childish remark, I shall cease my debate.

[alfieconn]

4 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

 

And on that childish remark, I shall cease my debate.

 

I thought you might do after my last post !

[Bredbury Blue]

Good news; kdb took part in Belgium’s training session this morning following his absence on Tuesday.

[alfieconn]

 

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I don't believe that's better to use them as a commodity that you buy for as cheap as possible, to then sell on to other clubs when they are at their peak for big money. What message are you sending out? Some may say that you are a selling club with no ambition.

 

What are you talking about, the last player we sold from the first team was Bale 5 yrs ago, all the other money we got from sales was for players who weren't even first team regulars.

Clueless !!!

[Rc2702]

Just now, alfieconn said:

 

 

What are you talking about, the last player we sold from the first team was Bale 5 yrs ago, all the other money we got from sales was for players who weren't even first team regulars.

Clueless !!!

The lad at man city now was not a first teamer?  Really?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[petermik]

7 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

It's a weird phenomenon with the spurs fans on here. All of them are never really serious about getting silverware they all chant the net spend mantra and they all seem overjoyed to simply be playing good football. Take kane out of that team and those 2nd places become 6th or lower based on his goals=points input to date.

 

Have you ever been by the old stadium and seen how ugly spurs fans are btw?

 

I swear I thought they were a bunch of miners leaving work or something. Grubby.

 Bit below the belt that Rc.........even though it maybe true

[Rc2702]

Just now, petermik said:

 Bit below the belt that Rc.........even though it maybe true

Ok fair do's I'll stick my hands up on that. To Spurs net spend fan club.

 

I apologise from the bottom of my piggy bank.

 

 

[Bredbury Blue]

^That's funny!
Clueless!!! Then Alfie drops a b*llock!
Priceless!!!

Edited October 4, 2017 by Bredbury Blue

[Bredbury Blue]

"...stats over the past five seasons shows that City are the Premier League’s specialists when it comes to dealing with a player being red carded.They’ve won an impressive 70% of matches in which they’ve finished a player light..."

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/manchester-city-dispel-myth-game-player-gets-sent-off/

[Rc2702]

Honestly speaking but I am jealous of what is happening in manchester.

 

The Redevs seem to have a real corporate structure wirh accountability. Mourinho set his stall out early in the summer and litrually name dropped the man tasked with getting him his targets and that seemed to work he got his players and now it's completely on JM.

 

Citeh - they backed up their boss so much that they left no stone unturned in getting him what he wanted.

 

Liverpool is just a shadowy structure with what appears to be no accountability. Just complete mess and ruined the season before it began. 

 

I cannot believe Klopp's words saying he was happy to shut the window asap, with or without coutinho he should have pushed a lot harder and had various targets. 

 

To be going into the CL with this squad and reinforcing the spine with new first teamers is an absolute disaster.

 

We need new owners and they need to get rid if the whole boardroom and start again.

[alfieconn]

3 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

The lad at man city now was not a first teamer?  Really?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The defender had a bust up with manager Mauricio Pochettino towards the end of the season after being left out of the side to face Chelsea in the FA Cup semi-final and Arsenal in the north London derby.

[Rc2702]

Just now, alfieconn said:

 

The defender had a bust up with manager Mauricio Pochettino towards the end of the season after being left out of the side to face Chelsea in the FA Cup semi-final and Arsenal in the north London derby.

Yeah that was a first teamer from last season.

 

Federico fazio. Was a starter and and an early finisher. Lol

 

Lennon - held or holds a pl record for spurs. Forgetful. Was that really 5 years ago?

 

You gotta peel a few layers before you speak aconn cos your headlines are conning no one.

 

Stick to spreadsheets and hockey.

[carmine]

14 hours ago, mrbojangles said:

 

Mmmm. Same could be said of the net spend comments

Well theres the thing.  When City, United and Chelsea fans stop continuing with this facade that were all playing on a level playing field i'm sure it will stop.  However, while you lot continue in the pleasant fiction that you don't have the most ridiculous unfair advantage i'm sure it will continue.  

 

Anyway, i'd have thought it was a pleasure to read net spend posts as opposed to having to put up with PeterMik and R2d2s antagonistic bullshit diatribe

Edited October 5, 2017 by carmine

[Bredbury Blue]

55 minutes ago, carmine said:

Well theres the thing.  When City, United and Chelsea fans stop continuing with this facade that were all playing on a level playing field i'm sure it will stop.  However, while you lot continue in the pleasant fiction that you don't have the most ridiculous unfair advantage i'm sure it will continue.  

 

Anyway, i'd have thought it was a pleasure to read net spend posts as opposed to having to put up with PeterMik and R2d2s antagonistic bullshit diatribe

 

And when are you going to realise football has been the same for over a hundred years, the richer clubs dominate! Get your history books out and catch up. It is of no interest to us City fans if you spurs lot have less to spend than us. Biut for christ sake stop harping on about it will you!

[carmine]

10 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

 

And when are you going to realise football has been the same for over a hundred years, the richer clubs dominate! Get your history books out and catch up. It is of no interest to us City fans if you spurs lot have less to spend than us. Biut for christ sake stop harping on about it will you!

No it hasn't.  And i don't need to pick up a history book to know that. There have always been examples of teams pushing above their weight yet it still doesn't take away from the fact, and one that you lot won't hold your fans up to and that its were not competing on a level playing field.

 

When you choose to acknowledge this i'm sure the debate will finish rapidly

[jellydog]

City have an unfair advantage.

[carmine]

8 minutes ago, jellydog said:

City have an unfair advantage.

 

Bravo!!  But i actually think that BB believes, or is trying to believe,  in the preposterous notion that you don't, hence i posed the question.

 

However, i think the point has been made and i won't be mentioning net spend again although Alfie might!!!

[mrbojangles]

 

12 minutes ago, carmine said:

However, i think the point has been made and i won't be mentioning net spend again 

Shukran jazeelan

[alfieconn]

16 minutes ago, carmine said:

 

Bravo!!  But i actually think that BB believes, or is trying to believe,  in the preposterous notion that you don't, hence i posed the question.

 

However, i think the point has been made and i won't be mentioning net spend again although Alfie might!!!

The hysterical  thing though carms out of all this is that when the Arabs took over their business plan (something BJ didn't mention) was to build up the academy and produce players from within hence not having to fork out so much money on big money signings, think something went a bit wrong there 

Edited October 5, 2017 by alfieconn

[mrbojangles]

11 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

The hysterical  thing though carms out of all this is that when the Arabs took over their business plan was to build up the academy and produce players from within hence not having to fork out so much money on big money signings, think something went a bit wrong there 

 

Don't worry your little cotton socks about it Alfie. It's all in hand