Redshirt core member sentenced one year in prison

[Denim]

When suthep went to the court for almost all the same charges, the judge said the goal was oust the government through protest. Since that was achieved, the protest was worthwhile and no crime was committed. Same scenario, different sentence.

Not to mention the fact that last week a man ( actually his sister ) in the south of Thailand took the army to court over allegations of torture whilst in custody. The court there rejected the case on the grounds that alleged crime was committed under laws of the old constitution , which having been abolished , could therefore no longer be bought before the court.

The amazing thing is that people actually study law in Thailand !?

[fab4]

So interesting! The red shirts are the most advanced and modern Thais, while the yellows are still pre-modern, but still in charge. So sad that the courts now seem entirely politicised. If only we could get Thaksin back to clean up this mess, and send these guys back to the barracks.

If the court is so politicised, why did it reject a case by Suthep against Tarit?

Even a biased court couldn't find any merit in sutheps "case" - there is a limit, even for "friends".......................

Edited October 21, 2014 by fab4

[kaobang]

now if someone believes in elections as the ultimate goal of democracy,he/she gotta be a red shirt....

it does not work like that

[tonbridgebrit]

Actually this decision will only galvanise the people of Thailand at the next election.

More red shirt sacrificial lambs going to jail for standing up for their democratic while the yellow elite hide behind their faceless men and walk free will give the people more reason to reject those who instigated the robbery of power of two democratically elected leaders who won with the greatest majorities in Thailand political history.

This might seem harsh now but the world is watching and Thailand has been widely condemned for their actions.

Quite rightly the PTP are biding their time and these actions will only swell their numbers at the ballot box.

I find your appraisal of the situation facile.

PTP has lost significant traction upcountry. The rice scam fiasco severely damaged them.

Clearly not enough traction has been lost by PTP for the military to work up the gumption to contest an election.

Why would the military contest an election?

Why would the military contest an election ?

Well, an election will mean that they are democratically elected in the eyes of America and Europe. America and Europe must behave in a way that makes them look like they are encouraging democracy. Who knows, sometimes, they really do want to encourage democracy.

And once Thailand is no longer shunned by the West, well, Thailand can then start raking in the benefits from the West and China as well.

[whybother]

Why would the military contest an election ?

Well, an election will mean that they are democratically elected in the eyes of America and Europe. America and Europe must behave in a way that makes them look like they are encouraging democracy. Who knows, sometimes, they really do want to encourage democracy.

And once Thailand is no longer shunned by the West, well, Thailand can then start raking in the benefits from the West and China as well.

The army don't care what America and Europe think. If they did, they wouldn't have had the coup.

Do you really think that if they contested an election, other countries opinions would change?

Thailand isn't being shunned by the West. Companies are still investing here. The US are still planning their annual war games. Nothing has changed.

[Local Drunk]

Actually this decision will only galvanise the people of Thailand at the next election.

More red shirt sacrificial lambs going to jail for standing up for their democratic while the yellow elite hide behind their faceless men and walk free will give the people more reason to reject those who instigated the robbery of power of two democratically elected leaders who won with the greatest majorities in Thailand political history.

This might seem harsh now but the world is watching and Thailand has been widely condemned for their actions.

Quite rightly the PTP are biding their time and these actions will only swell their numbers at the ballot box.

I find your appraisal of the situation facile.

PTP has lost significant traction upcountry. The rice scam fiasco severely damaged them.

Clearly not enough traction has been lost by PTP for the military to work up the gumption to contest an election.

The military doesn't have to contest an election. They are in power and they will decide after sufficient political and social reforms are achieved if and when an election will take place.

You should really try to understand and accept that fact.

Edited October 21, 2014 by Local Drunk

[Mango Bob]

One year in jail is nothing, he can do that standing on his head. The good news is that he will be long out of jail so he can vote in the next election.

[Ricardo]

Any Yellow shirts going to be in cell with him or are they completely innocent of any wrong doing.

It seems to me that Suthep was doing plenty of inciting.

Surely Suthep was Deputy-PM at that time ?

Are you confusing events in 2010 with 2013, perhaps ?

[WhizBang]

Somchai Phaibul, 45, a former Bang Bon district councillor of the defunct Thai Rak Thai party, and a core member of the redshirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), was found guilty on several charges which included illegal assembly, instigating unrest, violence, defiance of emergency decree, and starting violent protests that led to many casualties during the 2010 bloody riot.

ALL THAT, and all he gets is a one year jail sentence? Way too lenient. How about 10 years, plus a very very hefty fine.

[LipeLarry]

I see a few of the Red shills have woken up from their slumber

A very accurate description.

[In Town]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

[WhizBang]

So interesting! The red shirts are the most advanced and modern Thais, while the yellows are still pre-modern, but still in charge. So sad that the courts now seem entirely politicised. If only we could get Thaksin back to clean up this mess, and send these guys back to the barracks.

"If only we could get Thaksin back to clean up this mess,...." What mess?

It required the intervention of Prayuth and his merry men to clean up the "Thaksin" instigated mess.

The only mess Thaksin would be fit for, should he ever return, is the officers mess at army HQ as a waiter.

LOL, and here I thought you were going to say latrine duty.

A much more fitting duty for Thaksin anyway, as all the sh!t recently is his doing.

[jdinasia]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

[mrtoad]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

I'm proud I'm not you :-)

[ginjag]

I do live upcountry you have it wrong.

Well, as I said: Dream on. If and when there are democratic elections we will see which of us is right.

Agree jdinasia, this red brigade guy is 5 months adrift with his situ up in Issan. He couldn't be further from the truth.

Someone will have to wake him up out of his dream, the cancer is already being eliminated in admin everywhere, the guilty have fled the scene.

Massive change for the better up here, the red fear factor has near vanished.

[In Town]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

Well, I fully support your right to your political opinion.

[mrtoad]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

JD, anyone that is and would know what in town has written is a crock of.

But, but Suthep

[ginjag]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

[In Town]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

JD, anyone that is and would know what in town has written is a crock of.

But, but Suthep

And I fully support your right to free speech as well, even if you do call me a crock of. Its wonderful that we can all freely express our political opinions.

[Cuchulainn]

In today’s hearing of his appeal, the Appeals Court also ruled him guilty as charged and upheld the one-year imprisonment with no suspension.

[jdinasia]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

Well, I fully support your right to your political opinion.

It is far more than a political opinion. It is a sociological opinion as well.

You claim to be proud. You are proud of Arisaman, Jatuporn, Seh Daeng, Thida, Weng???? Really?

[mrtoad]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

JD, anyone that is and would know what in town has written is a crock of.

But, but Suthep

And I fully support your right to free speech as well, even if you do call me a crock of. Its wonderful that we can all freely express our political opinions.

I didn't call you a crock of, please reread.

[See the bears]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

Well, I fully support your right to your political opinion.

It is far more than a political opinion. It is a sociological opinion as well.

You claim to be proud. You are proud of Arisaman, Jatuporn, Seh Daeng, Thida, Weng???? Really?

They are far more worthy of pride than a man responsible for the death of near 100 civilians & the overthrow of a democratically elected government with guns & tanks.

[mrtoad]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

Well, I fully support your right to your political opinion.

It is far more than a political opinion. It is a sociological opinion as well.

You claim to be proud. You are proud of Arisaman, Jatuporn, Seh Daeng, Thida, Weng???? Really?

That's an impressive list JD, I'm not sure how you would title that list of names though....

[mrtoad]

Must of been pay day this week

[jdinasia]

I'm very proud to support the red shirts, an oppressed people struggling for self-determination, freedom, and dignity. Are you proud?

Sadly that description of the RS's isn't accurate.

Well, I fully support your right to your political opinion.

It is far more than a political opinion. It is a sociological opinion as well.

You claim to be proud. You are proud of Arisaman, Jatuporn, Seh Daeng, Thida, Weng???? Really?

They are far more worthy of pride than a man responsible for the death of near 100 civilians & the overthrow of a democratically elected government with guns & tanks.

They are the people responsible for those deaths. The goal being to remove the elected Abhisit government.

[tonbridgebrit]

Why would the military contest an election ?

Well, an election will mean that they are democratically elected in the eyes of America and Europe. America and Europe must behave in a way that makes them look like they are encouraging democracy. Who knows, sometimes, they really do want to encourage democracy.

And once Thailand is no longer shunned by the West, well, Thailand can then start raking in the benefits from the West and China as well.

The army don't care what America and Europe think. If they did, they wouldn't have had the coup.

Do you really think that if they contested an election, other countries opinions would change?

Thailand isn't being shunned by the West. Companies are still investing here. The US are still planning their annual war games. Nothing has changed.

Hold on, the army don't care what America and Europe think ??

Surely, the General went to Europe, and he did show that he'd rather have Thailand being friends with Europe rather than not ?

The coup ? Well, the coup was done, with the hope that the West "would understand that democracy would be restored by a coup". Obviously, some of the Western countries don't accept this. But, if Thailand has an election, then, yes, that will convince America and Europe that Thailand's government is a democracy.

Yes, Western companies are still in Thailand, they're the same as Chinese companies, they will go where a profit can be made. But the governments of the West, they've got to act as if they don't approve of the coup.

Actually, imagine this. The general turns up in Europe for the recent big meeting. He changes into his military uniform just before a speech. He's there, and wearing his uniform, he hands out a lecture.

He says

"look, I don't care what you bunch of fahrangs think, you lot need us more than we need you, you should be worried because one of your own fahrangs (Putin) has got a problem with you, us people of the Far East are the future, it's YOUR job to think for yourselves and realise that you've got it wrong, do a few boycotts against Australia because they don't like me, I'ill ban you from turning up in Pattaya if you refuse to show me full respect, stand next to me to get your photo taken" !!

In all honesty, if the general had of done that, it might be the case that more Thais would love him for it. And there would be some people on Thai Visa cheering away !!

[The Deerhunter]

however the casualties were made by the bullets shot by the army...

Here we go again. dreamers thinking that the red shirts in 2010 were all sterling peaceful souls. No matter how many time they hear about "bring a million litres of petrol & we will burn Bangkok", the rampaging through hospitals & the general pillage plunder and burning of malls, they say "It was all the Army's fault." The only thing missing from the above idiotic comment was to blame "Mark & Suthep" again. The reds were thugs then and they were thugs again this year. Yes, Suthep's crowd had some thugs too but to a very minor degree compared to what was coming from the PTP/UDD side. I would almost say Suthep's crowd were in self defense mode because the police would/could not give them any protection, even with photos of the perp's. However Violence from either side is to be deplored and sorry matey but the reds were and are always more violent than the Yellows or the anti-govt demonstrators. (or the army)

[Chairman Of The Board]

It is far more than a political opinion. It is a sociological opinion as well.

You claim to be proud. You are proud of Arisaman, Jatuporn, Seh Daeng, Thida, Weng???? Really?

That's an impressive list JD, I'm not sure how you would title that list of names though....

while most people think that it us a 'flange' or a 'congress', these are both wrong and the correct term in this case would be a 'troop'

[In Town]

however the casualties were made by the bullets shot by the army...

Here we go again. dreamers thinking that the red shirts in 2010 were all sterling peaceful souls. No matter how many time they hear about "bring a million litres of petrol & we will burn Bangkok", the rampaging through hospitals & the general pillage plunder and burning of malls, they say "It was all the Army's fault." The only thing missing from the above idiotic comment was to blame "Mark & Suthep" again. The reds were thugs then and they were thugs again this year. Yes, Suthep's crowd had some thugs too but to a very minor degree compared to what was coming from the PTP/UDD side. I would almost say Suthep's crowd were in self defense mode because the police would/could not give them any protection, even with photos of the perp's. However Violence from either side is to be deplored and sorry matey but the reds were and are always more violent than the Yellows or the anti-govt demonstrators. (or the army)

Yes. The reds are peaceful, and the yellows not. Someone mentioned Seh Deang, an army officer who fought for the Thai people, as someone they would not be proud of. So, I assume you are instead proud of the sniper who assassinated him while he was being interviewed by a journalist. That is so twisted as to be almost unbelievable.

Bangkok was "burned" by yellow fifth columnists (see the video). Red shirts went into one hospital because yellows had posted snipers in the windows, and it was days after She Deang's murder by a sniper. No one will deny the medical establishment here is completely yellow, except I guess Dr. Weng, and those poor nurses who were working at the aid station and gunned down when peaceful Mark closed the demo in 2010.

Yes, Sutheps crowd were in "self-defence" mode, except for all the video and eyewitnesses who say otherwise. Truly, they were defending the polling station from voters.

If reds are so violent, how come its always them that do the dying, them that are beat up, tied up, and dropped in the river? Proud of that?