Khon Kaen model suspects deny all charges, including uprising plot

[JOC]

If you look you will see that violence did occur on both sides but the red side was far more violent

The inconvenient truth that red shirt enablers always try to downplay and equivacate with the erroneous "both sides were equally violent" or even worse sometimes, the laughable distortion "the yellows were more violent."

It's often prefaced with the feebly disingenuous "don't have a dog in this race" or "calling it down the middle" or the classic "I'm no fan of Thaksin, but.."

Hmm.... member since yesterday and already over 20 posts, most of which staunchly anti Thaksin / Yingluck / Red.

What was your previous (presumably banned) username?

wackypacky??

New username and all, but still the same old drink!!

[LipeLarry]

So Thaksins grand plan for a civil war stemming from a coup was stomped on promptly when the HQ was raided. Even had a flow chart on the wall showing the chain of command with an overseas "someone" at the top.

These were not going to be the trigger pullers they were intended to be the generals, and there was a retired general involved, who was arrested later.

All the shootings and grenades were part of the plan

Oh yes that was the plan, if you go back and listen you will see that almost every speech, rant, from the red leaders during the protests included the words coup and, or civil war.

Then there was the sad remnant of a government, the 26 appointed acting cabinet ministers who refused to back down and compromise giving the military no choice but to take over to stop farther violence.

A civil war then a triumphant return as the savior of the country.

Terrorism is not a harsh enough charge for what that man planned.

That's why the Thaksin proponents/red shirt defenders on the thread are desperately trying to divert attention away to any other topic.

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[aussieinthailand]

Yu'p one day into martial law, arrest a mad gang of (pensioners) ,OOp's militant gangsters,

what are they going to do? hit some big bad army guy with their walking stick? slice 'em up with their pension card?

*derailing, off-topic malarky snipped from above post*

Seems they weren't all "pensioners"

"He was our only breadwinner," she said.

What's more, people of any age can pull a trigger.

arrest of another four suspects and a discovery of various weapons in their vehicles

Yes your quite right the elderly can still pull a trigger. And Thailand doesn't have a pensioner system like the west.

I WAS BEING FACETIOUS, but that may be lost on you.

You were being INACCURATE, which a review of your posts reveals is a reoccurring theme.

Btw, Thailand does have a pension system, which, again, you are inaccurate about. But let's not follow your other theme of derailing.

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No'p your the one whom would be inaccurate, I didn't say Thailand doesn't have a pensioner system, I said it doesn't have one like the west, if you wanna call me out in being accurate then try it your self some time, cheers

[thaiguzzi]

Set up. Scapegoats. Ring a bell?

[Roadman]

"The country is now back to normal," he pointed out.

define 'normal'...

Normal - Shinawatra mafia politicians, paid of cops and bureaucrats, paid thugs and goons acting within the bounds of a lawful society?

[Robespiere]

After the Koh Tao debacle , the refusal to prosecute Yingluck for corruption/malfeasance (reason given for coup) and today's announcement that none of the NCPO need disclose their assets, is it possible to believe anything coming from their propaganda machine?

It's the National Reform Council that don't need to declare their assets. They don't have any influence over any government financial decisions, so why should they need to declare them?

What have they to hide?

Surely, when the whole coup claims it justification based on anti-curruption, there can never be too much transparency.

[Fred Flinstone]

Due to Thailands restrictive speech - i am unable to comment

[robblok]

After the Koh Tao debacle , the refusal to prosecute Yingluck for corruption/malfeasance (reason given for coup) and today's announcement that none of the NCPO need disclose their assets, is it possible to believe anything coming from their propaganda machine?

It's the National Reform Council that don't need to declare their assets. They don't have any influence over any government financial decisions, so why should they need to declare them?

What have they to hide?

Surely, when the whole coup claims it justification based on anti-curruption, there can never be too much transparency.

As explained by many but probably not enough for the red shirts. It is only needed if you can influence decission making and coin it. In this case they can't exploit their position. Or if you don't agree tell me how they can make money from their position.

Asking for this is like asking to flood proof the Sahara desert (yea i know some other deserts get loads of rain and have floods) it has no use. But the red rabble always needs something to divert attention away from the real subject.

[robblok]

Due to Thailands restrictive speech - i am unable to comment

Believe me.. we are all happy about that.. your a fossil.

[See the bears]

After the Koh Tao debacle , the refusal to prosecute Yingluck for corruption/malfeasance (reason given for coup) and today's announcement that none of the NCPO need disclose their assets, is it possible to believe anything coming from their propaganda machine?

It's the National Reform Council that don't need to declare their assets. They don't have any influence over any government financial decisions, so why should they need to declare them?

What have they to hide?

Surely, when the whole coup claims it justification based on anti-curruption, there can never be too much transparency.

As explained by many but probably not enough for the red shirts. It is only needed if you can influence decission making and coin it. In this case they can't exploit their position. Or if you don't agree tell me how they can make money from their position.

Asking for this is like asking to flood proof the Sahara desert (yea i know some other deserts get loads of rain and have floods) it has no use. But the red rabble always needs something to divert attention away from the real subject.

They can propose 'reforms' on any area they like, including areas that will benefit their private business interests.

[robblok]

What have they to hide?

Surely, when the whole coup claims it justification based on anti-curruption, there can never be too much transparency.

As explained by many but probably not enough for the red shirts. It is only needed if you can influence decission making and coin it. In this case they can't exploit their position. Or if you don't agree tell me how they can make money from their position.

Asking for this is like asking to flood proof the Sahara desert (yea i know some other deserts get loads of rain and have floods) it has no use. But the red rabble always needs something to divert attention away from the real subject.

They can propose 'reforms' on any area they like, including areas that will benefit their private business interests.

Great... good thinking.. not....

Then an asset declaration is not going to help. They show their money now.. they show it after they done their job.. assets declared again.. no change.. because the fruits of the change comes far later. Also I doubt that the reforms will be about private business things as its about the constitution and political system things will change.

But nice try.

[fab4]

So Thaksins grand plan for a civil war stemming from a coup was stomped on promptly when the HQ was raided. Even had a flow chart on the wall showing the chain of command with an overseas "someone" at the top.

These were not going to be the trigger pullers they were intended to be the generals, and there was a retired general involved, who was arrested later.

All the shootings and grenades were part of the plan

Oh yes that was the plan, if you go back and listen you will see that almost every speech, rant, from the red leaders during the protests included the words coup and, or civil war.

Then there was the sad remnant of a government, the 26 appointed acting cabinet ministers who refused to back down and compromise giving the military no choice but to take over to stop farther violence.

A civil war then a triumphant return as the savior of the country.

Terrorism is not a harsh enough charge for what that man planned.

1. How many "terrorists" do you know that are "clever" enough to allegedly organise arms deals, hide them away, plan a civil war and yet need a organisation chart on the wall to remind them of who supposedly is in charge?

2. Almost every "speech and rant from the red leaders during the protests included the words coup and, or civil war".

Really? So all these "speeches" aimed to do.........................what, exactly? Stir up the masses to wage holy war on the infidel? Or were they just attuned to the political situation at the time and a rhetorical response to that situation.

3. the 26 appointed acting cabinet ministers who refused to back down and compromise giving the military no choice but to take over to stop farther violence.

All cabinet ministers in Thailand are appointed, but even you knew that, didn't you? Anyway, so the caretaker cabinet (a normal situation in the period between a parliament being dissolved and new elections being held) supposedly "refused to back down"? Back down from what exactly - are you referring to the 4 or 5 hours of talks between two parties that had been in dispute for 7 months, that strangely enough did nothing to resolve the situation, and that the self appointed saviour of Thailand decided to launch a coup over?

You suck it all up , don't you.....................................

[Robespiere]

After the Koh Tao debacle , the refusal to prosecute Yingluck for corruption/malfeasance (reason given for coup) and today's announcement that none of the NCPO need disclose their assets, is it possible to believe anything coming from their propaganda machine?

It's the National Reform Council that don't need to declare their assets. They don't have any influence over any government financial decisions, so why should they need to declare them?

What have they to hide?

Surely, when the whole coup claims it justification based on anti-curruption, there can never be too much transparency.

As explained by many but probably not enough for the red shirts. It is only needed if you can influence decission making and coin it. In this case they can't exploit their position. Or if you don't agree tell me how they can make money from their position.

Asking for this is like asking to flood proof the Sahara desert (yea i know some other deserts get loads of rain and have floods) it has no use. But the red rabble always needs something to divert attention away from the real subject.

Requiring these guys to reveal their assets will expose any who are "unusually rich".

If someone has made themselves a fortune and they can't explain how isn't better that they not serve on this particular body?

You would prefer honest individuals to be enlisted, would you not?