With everyone having a Uni BA degree does having a Masters degee help getting a better job ?

[BKKdreaming]

All the Middle Class Thais I know have the kids going ( or planning to go ) to Uni to get a BA degree ,

With the new "bar" being a BA degree does having a Masters degree help in getting ahead of the pack in Thailand and hopefully a better paying job ?

The same thing is happening in the USA , pushing everyone into having a University degree where before it was good enough to graduate from High School.

In the USA it just adds to Student Loans that are so high it takes decades to pay them back , but you do get ahead with a Masters quicker than those with "only" a BA

So how does it work in Thailand ?

[thailiketoo]

King Mongkut’s University of Technology Thonburi was founded from Thonburi College of Technology which was under the supervision of the Vocational Education Commission, the Ministry of Education on February 4, 1960.

Faculty Faculty of Engineering
> Department of Electrical Engineering
> Department of Computer Engineering
> Department of Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering
>> Field of Study Electrical and Information Engineering (Master's Degree)
> Department of Control System and Instrumentation Engineering
> Department of Mechanical Engineering
> Department of Civil Engineering
>> Field of Study Geotechnical Engineering
>> International & Twinning Programin Civil Engineering
>> Construction Engineering And Managment
> Center for Mechanics and Materials
> Department of Environmental Engineering
> Department of Production Engineering
>> Field of Study Metallurgical Engineering (Master's Degree)
>> Field of Study Welding Engineering (Master's Degree)
>> Field of Study Manufacturing and System Engineering (Doctorate)
> Department of Manufacturing and System Engineering (Master's Degree)
> Department of Tool and Materials Engineeringุ
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Department of Food Engineering
> Department of Mechatronics Engineering
> Biological Engineering Program
> Aquaculture Engineering Program

Thailand had a severe shortage of coordinators or liaisons between engineers and skilled labors, and that back in 1957 it took 6 years to produce a vocational technician. That is, a student who graduated from Grade 9 in secondary school must continue his education in industrial technology for 3 years in order to receive a vocational degree. After that, the student needed to work or continue his study at a technical institute for 3 more years to earn a diploma degree. Only then could he become an industrial technician.

For more information see below.

http://www2.kmutt.ac.th/eng/abt_history/index.html

[Chonburiram]

Most employers prefer a BA as beginner. Master only makes sense in combination with work experience.

Master degree and no real work experience can be problematic...

[thailiketoo]

Columbia estimates that the cost of its two-year, full-time MBA program in New York is a whopping $168,307.

The high price because of the high demand and earning power of graduates.

[ATF]

A Thai with a high qualification in Thailand will never reap the rewards unless they come from a higher class family. Just ask a Sukothai University student.

Top employers will only consider Chula and Thammasart grads.

[eldragon]

Yes. There was a piece in one of the local fishwraps lately about earnings for Thais with a BA getting closer to those for Thais without a BA. It would seem the a Master's degree is essential for any Thai that wants to move up in the world. But it also seems like where one comes from and where one goes to uni are big factors as well.

[Neeranam]

King Mongkut’s University of Technology Thonburi was founded from Thonburi College of Technology which was under the supervision of the Vocational Education Commission, the Ministry of Education on February 4, 1960.

Faculty Faculty of Engineering

> Department of Electrical Engineering

> Department of Computer Engineering

> Department of Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering

>> Field of Study Electrical and Information Engineering (Master's Degree)

> Department of Control System and Instrumentation Engineering

> Department of Mechanical Engineering

> Department of Civil Engineering

>> Field of Study Geotechnical Engineering

>> International & Twinning Programin Civil Engineering

>> Construction Engineering And Managment

> Center for Mechanics and Materials

> Department of Environmental Engineering

> Department of Production Engineering

>> Field of Study Metallurgical Engineering (Master's Degree)

>> Field of Study Welding Engineering (Master's Degree)

>> Field of Study Manufacturing and System Engineering (Doctorate)

> Department of Manufacturing and System Engineering (Master's Degree)

> Department of Tool and Materials Engineeringุ

> Department of Chemical Engineering

> Department of Food Engineering

> Department of Mechatronics Engineering

> Biological Engineering Program

> Aquaculture Engineering Program

Thailand had a severe shortage of coordinators or liaisons between engineers and skilled labors, and that back in 1957 it took 6 years to produce a vocational technician. That is, a student who graduated from Grade 9 in secondary school must continue his education in industrial technology for 3 years in order to receive a vocational degree. After that, the student needed to work or continue his study at a technical institute for 3 more years to earn a diploma degree. Only then could he become an industrial technician.

For more information see below.

http://www2.kmutt.ac.th/eng/abt_history/index.html

I worked at KMIT(King monghut's Institute of technology but it wasn't as long ago as 1960.

[Humberstone]

It is just a trendy thing and part of the herd mentailty of many twenty somethings. It will not mean you get a pay rise or help your career prospects.

[jdinasia]

A Thai with a high qualification in Thailand will never reap the rewards unless they come from a higher class family. Just ask a Sukothai University student.

Top employers will only consider Chula and Thammasart grads.

Absolutely not true.

My husband has a BS from Bangkok University. He has worked for top rated employers in Thailand. He makes far above average wages compared to CU and TU graduates.

[thailiketoo]

A Thai with a high qualification in Thailand will never reap the rewards unless they come from a higher class family. Just ask a Sukothai University student.

Top employers will only consider Chula and Thammasart grads.

It's like graduating from Yale or Harvard and Oxford or Cambridge. So? What's your point? Rich kids go to the best schools in any country.

[ATF]

A Thai with a high qualification in Thailand will never reap the rewards unless they come from a higher class family. Just ask a Sukothai University student.

Top employers will only consider Chula and Thammasart grads.

It's like graduating from Yale or Harvard and Oxford or Cambridge. So? What's your point? Rich kids go to the best schools in any country.

I wasn't trying to make a point just stating a fact.

[bkksteve123]

To OP:

Having a masters degree will not look bad on your résumé. But don't expect any miracles in terms of a better salary and ease of landing a job, not in Thailand, not anywhere.

The value of a degree depends a lot on the field of study.....supply and demand.

A year or two of relevant work-experience + the right personal traits, will get you much further than filling the "Masters degree preferred" criteria.

It's a plus, but not a must.

[jdinasia]

ATF

Your fact simply isn't factual. Some companies even exclude CU and TU graduates from hiring practices.

If a company wants someone for a specific position they may favor grads from a specific university, such as BU for mass communications, or Silpakorn for the art department.

[Soutpeel]

Columbia estimates that the cost of its two-year, full-time MBA program in New York is a whopping $168,307.

The high price because of the high demand and earning power of graduates.

Yeap, and the herds will run to do it on this, spend a heap on money on it, to "fill the demand and earning power", get into debt because it and cant get a job because there is now an over supply of these people and the salaries and demand has dropped......."Ecomonics 101 supply and demand" and end up flipping burgers in McDonalds

Who is saying the demand is high ? The univeristy or industry ? a marketing ploy by the Uni to increase demand ?....lets face facts most universities in the world now are being run as a business, by the same MBA's your talking about, for the most part its not about education anymore it more to do with "profits"...

[mrtoad]

A lot of degree's aren't worth squat in the real world. That's why Degrees that have an attached profession / vocation to them are far more valuable , i.e Engineering, Medicine, Nursing, Teaching as a few examples. A degree in Media Studies or Digital Pikery will limit people to the types of employment they can obtain. As for some degree holders, I'm surprised they were even able to find the right room to go to to sit the exam, such is their total lack of any idea of real life. One of my best employees is a non-degree holder who has been constantly promoted as they have common sense, a work ethic, a willingness to learn quickly and every additional task that they have been given they do it well.

[ATF]

ATF

Your fact simply isn't factual. Some companies even exclude CU and TU graduates from hiring practices.

If a company wants someone for a specific position they may favor grads from a specific university, such as BU for mass communications, or Silpakorn for the art department.

Well of course JD I don't believe CU and TU offer "Theatrical Degree" courses.

[thailiketoo]

A lot of degree's aren't worth squat in the real world. That's why Degrees that have an attached profession / vocation to them are far more valuable , i.e Engineering, Medicine, Nursing, Teaching as a few examples. A degree in Media Studies or Digital Pikery will limit people to the types of employment they can obtain. As for some degree holders, I'm surprised they were even able to find the right room to go to to sit the exam, such is their total lack of any idea of real life. One of my best employees is a non-degree holder who has been constantly promoted as they have common sense, a work ethic, a willingness to learn quickly and every additional task that they have been given they do it well.

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

[thailiketoo]

Columbia estimates that the cost of its two-year, full-time MBA program in New York is a whopping $168,307.

The high price because of the high demand and earning power of graduates.

Yeap, and the herds will run to do it on this, spend a heap on money on it, to "fill the demand and earning power", get into debt because it and cant get a job because there is now an over supply of these people and the salaries and demand has dropped......."Ecomonics 101 supply and demand" and end up flipping burgers in McDonalds

Who is saying the demand is high ? The univeristy or industry ? a marketing ploy by the Uni to increase demand ?....lets face facts most universities in the world now are being run as a business, by the same MBA's your talking about, for the most part its not about education anymore it more to do with "profits"...

The Thai minister of Sports and Tourism and Hillary Clinton both went to the same college. Both ladies have done pretty well for themselves. Yale has produced a couple of Presidents and Oxford a number of PM's.

You get what you pay for.

Of course there are exceptions when you have a crackerjack, razor sharp thinker going to a less than internationally known university in Kentucky and still doing well.

[ATF]

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

Electrical and Mechanical Engineering.

[thailiketoo]

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

Electrical and Mechanical Engineering.

Ya, I would have figured that. My father too. I have a liberal education with a solid grounding in humanities, literature and so on and dad was an engineer. We could barely communicate. He had no idea what I was talking about nor I him. I can't ever remember agreeing on anything even beer and cheese he was a Neanderthal. Edit to add we did agree on salami one time.

[Soutpeel]

Columbia estimates that the cost of its two-year, full-time MBA program in New York is a whopping $168,307.

The high price because of the high demand and earning power of graduates.

Yeap, and the herds will run to do it on this, spend a heap on money on it, to "fill the demand and earning power", get into debt because it and cant get a job because there is now an over supply of these people and the salaries and demand has dropped......."Ecomonics 101 supply and demand" and end up flipping burgers in McDonalds

Who is saying the demand is high ? The univeristy or industry ? a marketing ploy by the Uni to increase demand ?....lets face facts most universities in the world now are being run as a business, by the same MBA's your talking about, for the most part its not about education anymore it more to do with "profits"...

The Thai minister of Sports and Tourism and Hillary Clinton both went to the same college. Both ladies have done pretty well for themselves. Yale has produced a couple of Presidents and Oxford a number of PM's.

You get what you pay for.

Of course there are exceptions when you have a crackerjack, razor sharp thinker going to a less than internationally known university in Kentucky and still doing well.

ok but said people get where they are based solely on what school they went to ? or did "connections" come into play ? lest not forget the old saying, its not what you know, its who you know...

[mrtoad]

A lot of degree's aren't worth squat in the real world. That's why Degrees that have an attached profession / vocation to them are far more valuable , i.e Engineering, Medicine, Nursing, Teaching as a few examples. A degree in Media Studies or Digital Pikery will limit people to the types of employment they can obtain. As for some degree holders, I'm surprised they were even able to find the right room to go to to sit the exam, such is their total lack of any idea of real life. One of my best employees is a non-degree holder who has been constantly promoted as they have common sense, a work ethic, a willingness to learn quickly and every additional task that they have been given they do it well.

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

All of my degrees and Diplomas are in the field of Healthcare.

[Morakot]

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

Grand Master of the Elements. Very useful indeed.

[thailiketoo]

The Thai minister of Sports and Tourism and Hillary Clinton both went to the same college. Both ladies have done pretty well for themselves. Yale has produced a couple of Presidents and Oxford a number of PM's.

You get what you pay for.

Of course there are exceptions when you have a crackerjack, razor sharp thinker going to a less than internationally known university in Kentucky and still doing well.

ok but said people get where they are based solely on what school they went to ? or did "connections" come into play ? lest not forget the old saying, its not what you know, its who you know...

You go to the right school and join the right fraternity and those social networking ties last for a lifetime. For example Yale ran the OSS and CIA for years and years.

[Soutpeel]

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

Grand Master of the Elements. Very useful indeed.

I have a masters in Jedism...... I will get my coat...or is it my cloak ?...

[ATF]

Electrical and Mechanical Engineering.

Ya, I would have figured that. My father too. I have a liberal education with a solid grounding in humanities, literature and so on and dad was an engineer. We could barely communicate. He had no idea what I was talking about nor I him. I can't ever remember agreeing on anything even beer and cheese he was a Neanderthal. Edit to add we did agree on salami one time.

Sounds like we would have got on well. Did he like guns?

[thailiketoo]

Electrical and Mechanical Engineering.

Ya, I would have figured that. My father too. I have a liberal education with a solid grounding in humanities, literature and so on and dad was an engineer. We could barely communicate. He had no idea what I was talking about nor I him. I can't ever remember agreeing on anything even beer and cheese he was a Neanderthal. Edit to add we did agree on salami one time.

Sounds like we would have got on well. Did he like guns?

Deer and duck hunting every year and we had a cabin in the woods.

[ATF]

Deer and duck hunting every year and we had a cabin in the woods.

Yes a real man. Hope you didn't puke when he was chopping the deer.

[Morakot]

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

Grand Master of the Elements. Very useful indeed.

I have a masters in Jedism......

Thought so. Guess that's why you make the perfect manager in this world..

[GarryP]

And I have a degree in mediocrity.