mikebike Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Let's say that Thailand was dragged into war with a neighboring country...To truly answer the hypothesis I would have to know WHY. Is it an ideological war? Political? A war to support corporate access? Very few 'wars' improve the lot of the common citizen and I would definitely not fight a war of ideology, nor a war for politicians or corporations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Let's say that Thailand was dragged into war with a neighboring country...To truly answer the hypothesis I would have to know WHY. Is it an ideological war? Political? A war to support corporate access? Very few 'wars' improve the lot of the common citizen and I would definitely not fight a war of ideology, nor a war for politicians or corporations... In what country do they ask soldiers if they agree with the war? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) First, I think this topic was posted about a year ago......my answer has not changed. I do not care about citizenship. I do not get involved in this country's politics. I have always been an pacifistic and believe wars are for getting rich people richer at the cost of the poor. BUT, if my wife and child were in danger, I would fight to protect them. End of story. Edited November 8, 2014 by willyumiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Let's say that Thailand was dragged into war with a neighboring country...To truly answer the hypothesis I would have to know WHY. Is it an ideological war? Political? A war to support corporate access? Very few 'wars' improve the lot of the common citizen and I would definitely not fight a war of ideology, nor a war for politicians or corporations... In what country do they ask soldiers if they agree with the war?Uhm, any country without conscription... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I can't think of any countries who under severe threat did not have conscription. I believe all the major powers in WWII did. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to a country threatened with annihilation did not employ conscription. The original hypothesis was Thailand being dragged into war and would you fight.... no idea where u have come up with severe threat or bleedin' annihilation. And absolutely no way expats are being conscripted... My needing to know the reason for the 'war' is basic and rational. Since I would never volunteer for the armed forces of my own country without just cause I would apply the same reasoning here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgooner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I would never move one finger for this country then kindly <deleted> off home Edited November 8, 2014 by bkkgooner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Off topic posts deflection posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The OP ... Would you fight for Thailand ... My answer Yes - I would. And I have done it before. If anyone would like to read about my story related to my answer that I would fight for Thailand. Then please send me a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 In short: No A bit longer: I am a convinced pacifist and would not fight for any country or nation, not even the one I was born in.. Would I fight for an idea? Ah, there is an idea! All my family has another passport so we would probably leave if there were an open and armed conflict here. Anyway, the Thai wouldn't stand a chance with over 1,000 fat belly generals against a determined and well trained foreign army with actual soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 In short: No A bit longer: I am a convinced pacifist and would not fight for any country or nation, not even the one I was born in.. Would I fight for an idea? Ah, there is an idea! All my family has another passport so we would probably leave if there were an open and armed conflict here. Anyway, the Thai wouldn't stand a chance with over 1,000 fat belly generals against a determined and well trained foreign army with actual soldiers. Thailand 700 tanks 100 Jet fighters Laos 50 Tanks 25 Jet fighters Cambodia 76 Tanks 21 Jet fighters Aw come on now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baa_Mango Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 What type of weapons would be dished out? Are we able to form units based on speed, strength, and nationality? Are we fighting pushovers of battle hardened Khmer Rogue or Shan State narco-armies? Do we get to retreat to Thailand for R & R? Can we hammer Jim Morrison in the chopper? You're opening up a can of worms that has the ability to knock down, a slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 What type of weapons would be dished out? Are we able to form units based on speed, strength, and nationality? Are we fighting pushovers of battle hardened Khmer Rogue or Shan State narco-armies? Do we get to retreat to Thailand for R & R? Can we hammer Jim Morrison in the chopper? You're opening up a can of worms that has the ability to knock down, a slippery slope. Check the four armed forces it's really no comparison. In the area Thailand and Vietnam have large modern armed forces. Laos and Cambodia don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baa_Mango Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 True about Lao and Cambodia have significantly less hardware but these little skirmishes in recent history have usually resulted in Thai losses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 This topic generated 16 pages of replies the last time it came up... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/672645-would-you-fight-for-thailand/ To answer the question again, no, I would not fight for Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I would fight only for my own country. And why limit it to age 30's? For those of us who have handled rifles all of our lives and hunted and practiced many, many thousands of rounds, know how to disguise ourselves, know how to move around without been seen or smelled even by cagy wild animals... I could kill 20 of them before they even knew where I was. Thais? Wow TVF is such a novel place.., The title of the Thread is Would you fight FOR Thailand? The poster you are responding to ... was posting in the alignment with the topic thread title... Your jokesterism is a bit off center.. Maybe a few more years of maturity will help you gain a better perspective of what you read... and help you make an appropriate response... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'd "fight" my way to BKK. Ba bye! Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I would like to ask a question. Is this topic thread about something of remote reality or is it something like the TVF version of a video game? Serious question ... because it seems very difficult to discern the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Some more nonsense deflection posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ws93 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) My grandad was in the Thai army so I do wonder if I would make him proud if I did fight for Thailand. If my family in Rayong and suphan buri in real danger, then I would definitely fight. I don't think I would have the choice to begin with haha Edited November 8, 2014 by Ws93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYJAYDEE Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 In short: No A bit longer: I am a convinced pacifist and would not fight for any country or nation, not even the one I was born in.. Would I fight for an idea? Ah, there is an idea! All my family has another passport so we would probably leave if there were an open and armed conflict here. Anyway, the Thai wouldn't stand a chance with over 1,000 fat belly generals against a determined and well trained foreign army with actual soldiers. Thailand 700 tanks 100 Jet fighters Laos 50 Tanks 25 Jet fighters Cambodia 76 Tanks 21 Jet fighters Aw come on now...... laos and cambodia didnt let bother them much a few decades ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I would never move one finger for this country then kindly <deleted> off home Why? This is an expat forum. Most members here are foreigners who are not permanent residents or citizens. Thailand isn't very open to actual immigrants anyway. Why would it be logical for such FOREIGNERS to fight for a FOREIGN country? Thailand, or anywhere? Do you think Thais expect that of FOREIGNERS? Edited November 8, 2014 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsubishi Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'd fight just for the destiny of it, better a death in battle than old age etc. Ideally I'd prefer to fight in Europe for but I'm only there part of the year. So yes, but not out of subservience or glowing radiance for Thailand. I can tell you that unless there's an invasion of apocalyptic proportions Thais would despise foreigners being involved in any fight. Thais have historically been wary of foreigners with powerful weapons, during the Siege of Ayuthaya they sent away a farang warship with cannons that could have broken the siege and driven off the Burmese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsubishi Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I definitely wouldn't fight for Thailand, and would treat their offer of citizenship with the disdain it deserves. I have already saved the life of two Thais by paying hundreds of thousands in hospital bills, am raising two and supporting others. They should probably consider me a national hero, but alas.... Why did you pay hundreds of thousands in hospital bills for two Thais, are raising two and supporting others? Just curious as that would be a strange attitude to have if they were members of your own family, because I certainly would not considering raising my kids as raising three Thais and I do not understand what you mean by supporting others? In which way are you giving them support? Just curious because it all sounds rather weird. Nothing curious or weird about Farangs supporting Thai Family,it's common place, happens all the time! That's what is so weird about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I definitely wouldn't fight for Thailand, and would treat their offer of citizenship with the disdain it deserves. I have already saved the life of two Thais by paying hundreds of thousands in hospital bills, am raising two and supporting others. They should probably consider me a national hero, but alas.... Why did you pay hundreds of thousands in hospital bills for two Thais, are raising two and supporting others? Just curious as that would be a strange attitude to have if they were members of your own family, because I certainly would not considering raising my kids as raising three Thais and I do not understand what you mean by supporting others? In which way are you giving them support? Just curious because it all sounds rather weird. Nothing curious or weird about Farangs supporting Thai Family,it's common place, happens all the time! That's what is so weird about it. Yep! back in our own Countries we don't even support our own aged Parents,let alone somone elses parents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why? This is an expat forum. Most members here are foreigners who are not permanent residents or citizens. Thailand isn't very open to actual immigrants anyway. Why would it be logical for such FOREIGNERS to fight for a FOREIGN country? Thailand, or anywhere? Do you think Thais expect that of FOREIGNERS? Thailand makes treaty's with foreign governments that commit those governments to fight for Thailand. Why would you find this unusual? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) War video Considering this is Asia perhaps an Asian singing war. Edited November 9, 2014 by thailiketoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why? This is an expat forum. Most members here are foreigners who are not permanent residents or citizens. Thailand isn't very open to actual immigrants anyway. Why would it be logical for such FOREIGNERS to fight for a FOREIGN country? Thailand, or anywhere? Do you think Thais expect that of FOREIGNERS? Thailand makes treaty's with foreign governments that commit those governments to fight for Thailand. Why would you find this unusual? I know my country has a treaty to defend Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Why? This is an expat forum. Most members here are foreigners who are not permanent residents or citizens. Thailand isn't very open to actual immigrants anyway. Why would it be logical for such FOREIGNERS to fight for a FOREIGN country? Thailand, or anywhere? Do you think Thais expect that of FOREIGNERS? Thailand makes treaty's with foreign governments that commit those governments to fight for Thailand. Why would you find this unusual? Oh please, are you havin' a laugh? The question has NOTHING to do with treaties. It's directed OBVIOUSLY at independent expats here in Thailand. Would THEY personally fight. Nothing about their governments or their government's armies. Of course if you're in a non-Thai army and your government gives orders, you go anywhere including Thailand. The question does touch on foreigners who are not immigrants here in the legal sense LOYALTY to the abstraction of the Thai nation. I have none and would expect NONE from foreigners with my legal status in my home country towards there as well. It's only LOGICAL. Duh and double duh. Edited November 9, 2014 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I would not fight in any war, on any side. All these wannabie rambos are just children with bigger toys and no consequences!! Name ONE war that ended well ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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