'Four killed' in Jerusalem synagogue attack

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'Four killed' in Jerusalem synagogue attack

JERUSALEM: -- At least four Israelis have been killed and seven injured in what police say was a "terrorist attack" at a Jerusalem synagogue.

Two men armed with axes and knives carried out the attack in the Har Nof neighbourhood.

Police say they shot both the attackers dead inside the synagogue.

The city of Jerusalem has seen months of heightened tension and several attacks and kidnappings after a dispute over access to holy sites.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said those attacked at the synagogue had gathered there for worship.

The area has been sealed off and the injured are being treated in Jerusalem hospitals, he said.

Tensions in the city have risen in recent weeks, with two deadly attacks by Palestinian militants on pedestrians in the city and announcements by Israel of plans to build more settler homes in East Jerusalem.

A prominent rabbi and leading campaigner was shot and wounded last month by a Palestinian in Jerusalem at a key religious compound in the city.

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30092720


-- BBC 2014-11-18

[Seastallion]

Synagogues, churches, mosques, all should be off-limits, and these terrorists were rightly shot on sight.

It's just a pity that when Mosques are targeted by the other side, it's by an anonymous push of a remote button, so the perpetrators go unpunished.,

[up-country_sinclair]

Allow me to take my response from elsewhere:

"The emotional reaction about this is totally understandable but needs to be put in perspective"

"Sad, but this is what happens"

"Enough with the bleeding heart attitudes"

[transam]

Religion....................

Why don't folk just live THEIR own life and not kill folk for theirs................

[up-country_sinclair]

RAMALLAH - Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas condemned an attack by two Palestinian men in a Jerusalem synagogue which killed four people on Tuesday.

"The presidency condemns the attack on Jewish worshipers in their place of prayer and condemns the killing of civilians no matter who is doing it," his office said in a statement to Reuters.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Abbas-condemns-deadly-attack-on-Jewish-worshipers-in-Jerusalem-synagogue-382115

[harryfrompattaya]

The terrorist seem to be the same whether China England Thailand Israel Russia Myanmar Nigeria Philippines and Canada what does this tell you about the crying terrorists

Peace talk does not work with them

Stop blaming China England Thailand Israel Russia Myanmar Nigeria Philippines and Canada

​Blame the terrorists unite and attack their groups kill their members

Edited November 18, 2014 by harryfrompattaya

[Jay Sata]

Trouble has been brewing at the site of what the Israelis call the Temple Mount for some time.

There have been efforts on the part of some Jewish fundamentalists to change long standing arrangements.

Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority have agreed to take a series of practical steps to de-escalate the crisis over the Temple Mount, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday.

Kerry was speaking after his tripartite meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Jordanian monarch King Abdullah II in Amman, which focused on defusing the tensions over the holy site, and putting a stop to the violence that has flared up recently in East Jerusalem. In the past few weeks, the city has seen riots, terror attacks and an assassination attempt.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.626387

Edited November 18, 2014 by Jay Sata

[MJP]

A post with just a YouTube link has been removed. Please try and make some effort to introduce it at least.

[Jingthing]

This one seems very clear cut.

Nothing mysterious here.

Another terrorist attack specifically targeting innocent Jewish people just for being Jews.

They are happening in Israel.

They are happening in Europe, they are even happening even in the USA, and other parts of the world.

More evidence that the Jewish people really do need the power of a state (Israel) to combat this irrational disease of the Jew haters (thousands of years of this madness already).

Somewhat ironically, it's clear to me that the recent global wave of antisemitism (often thinly disguised as "anti-Zionism" and sometimes not disguised at all) is actually strengthening Zionist feeling among global Jews.

Left wing, moderate, and right right wing, global Jews are massively unified in support of the right of Israel to exist and defend herself against those who openly are working towards her destruction.

Edited November 18, 2014 by Jingthing

[uptheos]

Trouble has been brewing at the site of what the Israelis call the Temple Mount for some time.

There have been efforts on the part of some Jewish fundamentalists to change long standing arrangements.

Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority have agreed to take a series of practical steps to de-escalate the crisis over the Temple Mount, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday.

Kerry was speaking after his tripartite meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Jordanian monarch King Abdullah II in Amman, which focused on defusing the tensions over the holy site, and putting a stop to the violence that has flared up recently in East Jerusalem. In the past few weeks, the city has seen riots, terror attacks and an assassination attempt.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.626387

How about something more recent by Kerry?

LONDON — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry angrily condemned Tuesday’s deadly attack on a Jerusalem synagogue and demanded that the Palestinian leadership take immediate steps to end incitement to violence as Israeli-Palestinian tensions soared.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/john-kerry-condemns-attack-on-jerusalem-synagogue/2014/11/18/e1ddc0da-6efa-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html

[jdinasia]

This one seems very clear cut.

Nothing mysterious here.

Another terrorist attack specifically targeting innocent Jewish people just for being Jews.

They are happening in Israel.

They are happening in Europe, they are even happening even in the USA, and other parts of the world.

More evidence that the Jewish people really do need the power of a state (Israel) to combat this irrational disease of the Jew haters (thousands of years of this madness already).

Somewhat ironically, it's clear to me that the recent global wave of antisemitism (often thinly disguised as "anti-Zionism" and sometimes not disguised at all) is actually strengthening Zionist feeling among global Jews.

Left wing, moderate, and right right wing, global Jews are massively unified in support of the right of Israel to exist and defend herself against those who openly are working towards her destruction.

Like the PM of Palestine, I condem this violence.

If I were a shallow man. I would point use the arguments used by those that are hell bent on denying freedom to the Palestinians. That the actions of Israel caused this. That the violence of Israel caused this.

I don't believe that to be a justification for these murders any more than I think that 5 deaths justify killing 1000's or denying a people their freedom.

Israel must look at its actions surrounding holy places of non Jews.

It will cause reactions, regardless of how evil or cruel those actions are.

[Jingthing]

Abbas did the right thing this time openly condemning terrorism. A nice change from his party making heroic martyrs of recent Palestinian murders of innocent Jews.

Hamas on the other hand, the most popular political party among the Palestinians, is openly calling for more similar terror attacks against civilian Jews.

"The attack in Jerusalem is a reaction to the crime and execution of the martyr al-Ramouni and a reaction to the crimes of the occupation, the Hamas movement is calling for more revenge attacks," Hamas said on its official Al-Aksa TV.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Hamas-Jerusalem-synagogue-attack-in-response-to-death-of-Palestinian-bus-driver-found-hanged-382106

[Jingthing]

The majority of Palestinians don't want Israel to exist with any borders and they are taught from an early age to hate Jews in a racist way. Dudes, peace is not coming anytime soon.

[MJP]

Load of OT and bickering posts gone on the compost heap.

[ezzra]

Few days a go, a Palestinian public bus transportation driver took his own life by committing suicide and hanged

himself, both the Palestinian and the Israeli pathologists have concurred and declare the death as such,

but yet, the Hamas and some other shit stirrers are inciting and stirring raw emotions and riots

saying he was murdered by the Jews... and calling for every one to violently protest....

comes to show, there will NEVER BE PEACE in this place, and that because simply put,

some groups on both side of the divide claim more that the owed and NOT REALLY

interested in any peace.... as peace will put an ends to their twisted and self gaining

agendas...

Edited November 18, 2014 by ezzra

[harryfrompattaya]

What does condemning terrorism mean? It means nothing It nothing but a con

Like someone who working in a bar smiling at you Or your bookie feeling sorry for you when you lose a big bet

[harryfrompattaya]

The majority of Palestinians don't want Israel to exist with any borders and they are taught from an early age to hate Jews in a racist way. Dudes, peace is not coming anytime soon.

Wake up Muslims want everyone to be a Muslims or die

Please read the Koran

Many claim to be very smart but dismiss their holy book

Read the Koran by the way how Christians members of my church did the Muslims kill this year?

Also How many Thais and Chinese that is the problem not little Israel

[ezzra]

What does condemning terrorism mean? It means nothing It nothing but a con

Like someone who working in a bar smiling at you Or your bookie feeling sorry for you when you lose a big bet

It called lip service, whereby, diplomatically, you, as a head of that group has to look good

by uttering some nonsuccess so no will accuse you of not condemning the act, but not so deep

in their hearts, will know that they didn't meant a word of it...

[Seastallion]

Abbas did the right thing this time openly condemning terrorism. A nice change from his party making heroic martyrs of recent Palestinian murders of innocent Jews.

Hamas on the other hand, the most popular political party among the Palestinians, is openly calling for more similar terror attacks against civilian Jews.

"The attack in Jerusalem is a reaction to the crime and execution of the martyr al-Ramouni and a reaction to the crimes of the occupation, the Hamas movement is calling for more revenge attacks," Hamas said on its official Al-Aksa TV.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Hamas-Jerusalem-synagogue-attack-in-response-to-death-of-Palestinian-bus-driver-found-hanged-382106

Yes he is calling for that, which frame it in your words sounds bad......but more importantly is "why?". He is calling for reaction to crimes of the occupation, and reaction to an execution. He is calling for revenge. (From JT's quote)

From that, I hazard that if Israel didn't occupy, execute, or commit crimes, he'd have nothing to call attacks for.

[Briggsy]

As the Ultra-Orthodox percentage of the Israeli population becomes more and more, you can expect more conflict and killing from both sides.

[Seastallion]

Trouble has been brewing at the site of what the Israelis call the Temple Mount for some time.

There have been efforts on the part of some Jewish fundamentalists to change long standing arrangements.

Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority have agreed to take a series of practical steps to de-escalate the crisis over the Temple Mount, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday.

Kerry was speaking after his tripartite meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Jordanian monarch King Abdullah II in Amman, which focused on defusing the tensions over the holy site, and putting a stop to the violence that has flared up recently in East Jerusalem. In the past few weeks, the city has seen riots, terror attacks and an assassination attempt.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.626387

How about something more recent by Kerry?

LONDON — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry angrily condemned Tuesday’s deadly attack on a Jerusalem synagogue and demanded that the Palestinian leadership take immediate steps to end incitement to violence as Israeli-Palestinian tensions soared.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/john-kerry-condemns-attack-on-jerusalem-synagogue/2014/11/18/e1ddc0da-6efa-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html

Good. Just as good a news piece.

Pity Kerry doesn't do much angry demanding when the terrorism is in the opposite direction. Or did he? Maybe, but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.

[harryfrompattaya]

As the Ultra-Orthodox percentage of the Israeli population becomes more and more, you can expect more conflict and killing from both sides.

Once again please answer is the Ultra-Orthodox percentage of the Israeli population the reason for the Muslim terrorists in South Thailand and the Mid East I doubt it

The Muslims love to kill non Muslims and cry about the Jews What sad bunch of people who support the terrorists all over the World

[Jingthing]

As the Ultra-Orthodox percentage of the Israeli population becomes more and more, you can expect more conflict and killing from both sides.

Once again please answer is the Ultra-Orthodox percentage of the Israeli population the reason for the Muslim terrorists in South Thailand and the Mid East I doubt it

The Muslims love to kill non Muslims and cry about the Jews What sad bunch of people who support the terrorists all over the World

Not only non-Muslims. Also the "wrong flavor" of Muslims as in Isis and many other Muslim on Muslim conflicts. Converting to Islam which presumably is what a lot of the extremists want certainly didn't help recently beheaded American victim Abdul-Rahman.

Edited November 18, 2014 by Jingthing

[Briggsy]

As the Ultra-Orthodox percentage of the Israeli population becomes more and more, you can expect more conflict and killing from both sides.

Once again please answer is the Ultra-Orthodox percentage of the Israeli population the reason for the Muslim terrorists in South Thailand and the Mid East I doubt it

The Muslims love to kill non Muslims and cry about the Jews What sad bunch of people who support the terrorists all over the World

Although, this is totally off-topic, the vast majority of deaths in the Deep South of Thailand are Muslim deaths. This conflict has been going on for over 100 years (that's long before Al-Qaeda and even before the creation of Israel) and can be described as an attempt by local population to rid themselves of Thai suzerainty. You can even go back further to the 17th century when 5 Malay states were vassals of Ayuthaya. Today 4 of them, Perlis, Kedah, Terengganu and Perlis are in Malaysia, but one ended up in Thailand, Patani.

[Seastallion]

From the report,Netanyahu has vowed "to respond with a heavy hand to the deadliest attack in 6 years".

4 dead is the deadliest attack in SIX years?

I have grave fears. Netanyahu killed nearly 2000 in revenge for 3. What's he going to do "heavy handedly" for 4?

Hopefully it is only this weasely politician's rhetoric.

Instead of revenge, Netanyahu, why not look to the future and put an end to this now? Go to the peace table and sincerely find a way. Hamas has shown that no matter what you do, they will retaliate. If you really care about your citizens, don't give them more blood, give them peace. Do it the right way, with Abbas, and Hamas will lose their support in droves...a double bonus for Israel and Palestine.

[up-country_sinclair]

The only hope going forward is that the Israeli people will wake up and realize that there is no path to peace with Netanyahu. As long as he is in power, these strategic actions will continue.

[Jingthing]

The only hope going forward is that the Israeli people will wake up and realize that there is no path to peace with Netanyahu. As long as he is in power, these strategic actions will continue.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you describing the terrorist murders at the synagogue as strategic actions?

Anyway, people, don't kid yourself, rational people know that just changing the current Israeli PM doesn't bring any kind of magical solution to a conflict that has festered for so many decades now.

But sure blame it only on Israel. That makes a lot of sense!

Edited November 18, 2014 by Jingthing

[up-country_sinclair]

The only hope going forward is that the Israeli people will wake up and realize that there is no path to peace with Netanyahu. As long as he is in power, these strategic actions will continue.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you describing the terrorist murders at the synagogue as strategic actions?

The recent actions recently undertaken by the Palestinian freedom fighters are most definitely strategic in nature. The tables have turned and now the average Israeli feels as safe in a synagogue in Jerusalem as a Palestinian does in a mosque in Gaza.

Edited November 18, 2014 by up-country_sinclair

[jdinasia]

The only hope going forward is that the Israeli people will wake up and realize that there is no path to peace with Netanyahu. As long as he is in power, these strategic actions will continue.

Agreed, Likud's appeasement to the far right will only escalate the violence.

Reasonable people have been questioning Israeli policy for a long time. Sadly there is no evidence that Israel will accept a 2 state solution under the Likud party.

Death is no stranger to the people in the area.

My heart really does go out to those on both sides dealing with this extremist violence from every angle.

[Jingthing]

The only hope going forward is that the Israeli people will wake up and realize that there is no path to peace with Netanyahu. As long as he is in power, these strategic actions will continue.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you describing the terrorist murders at the synagogue as strategic actions?

The recent actions recently undertaken by the Palestinian freedom fighters are most definitely strategic in nature. The tables have turned and now the average Israeli feels as safe in a synagogue in Jerusalem as a Muslim does in a Mosque in Gaza.

Sounds like you think murder of innocent Jews is justified. Correct me if I'm wrong. Again these murderers are clearly terrorists. Civilized people get that. Israel demonizers don't.

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