Parvovirus hit our 10 weeks old puppies.

[vel_tins]

I did some Internet investigation about this Parvovirus and unfortunately, it can end deadly.

When the first puppy showed some symptoms (four days ago), we rushed to the Vet clinic on Soi Neurnplubwan in Pattaya.

They did some test and it is definitely Parvovirus.

The clinic did everything possible, infusions and so on, identical to the Internet recommendations.

So far so good.

This first puppy seems now, on day four, in better condition and wants to walks around (which is not trivial, since we have to separate the dogs).

But now, it hit at least the second one (did a test today) and I fear, it will hit them all.

Now to my question:

Since it is very expensive and complicated to visit the hospital with two to four dogs every day, does somebody know a COMPETENT vet, who makes house calls for a fair price?

Or has at least a better plan?

Location is, Pattaya Neurnplubwan area.

thanks in advance

[fredge45]

Have the dogs vaccinated and then you won't have to go through this endangerment to their lives.

[bina]

frankly u could do a lot of the treatment on your own if u have time: it is mostly giving fluids either in a iv catheter that the vet can put in for you or/ under the skin fluids given every few hours, antibiotics,(yes yes even thought its a virus antibiotics are given due to the nature of the disease and secondary bacterial infections setting in), vitamins, and mostly TLC (TENDER LOVING CARE)... the virus stays in the ground and surrounding areas even up to a year and is fairly impervious to heat and cold, but chlorine based cleaners does destroy it. best is always to make sure the dam (mother dog) is vaccinated against it and some vets recomend giving pre parvo booster when they stop nursing. others dont recommmend this.

my dog pulled through but he was much older adn we are still not sure it was parvo or an other similar virus... didnt bother to test as symptoms and treatment same... howver it did make his insestinal tract more sensitive.

parvo can affect not just the intestinal system but other organs as well although mostly it is the vomiting and diahrea causing extreme dehydration , and death.

hope they pull through...

and no you cannot now vaccinate them as they are too weak; and once they've had it and survived, they will always test positive for it.. and wont get it again

[Thai at Heart]

It is a horrible way to have a puppy go.

Got to get them vaccinated asap and we basically kept the puppy indoors for weeks

[vel_tins]

Sorry for the delayed reply, but I was 24 hours busy with the dogs.

well, so far only two puppies have survived...

But these two now eat and drink from themselves and running walking around the house.

They are a little bit fragile at the moment, but with the best care and the best food, they will recover quickly, I hope..

The treatment was given by the "NPW animal hospital"

But that might have been a wrong decision, because of the very young (almost teenagers) "vets", guess they are "cheaper" in employment than than real docs?

However, I can't change it for now.

BUT: I have a much more serious problem now.

The same crap hit my three year old male dog! The lady dog is okay since day one.

Same symptoms, vomiting and diarrhoea, like the puppies.

Even it is very uncommon that it hits older dogs and a "quick test" at the "NPW animal hospital" was also negative...IT HIT HIM!

What could it be, if not Parvovirus?

Since I don't trust the "teeny vets" any more, I will bring the adult dog to the Muang AKE hospital or Siam Country pet hospital this morning (and also the puppies for a check).

Maybe they can do a blood check, or what ever is necessary.

Edited November 22, 2014 by vel_tins

[bina]

any type of virus that not neccecarily has a vaccine against it. there are viruses that seem like parvo but arent. the treatment is usually the same: re hydration, antibiotics in case of secondary infection or possible bacterial infection since there is no real reason to test for every disease and the vet might want to hit a wide base; TLC (TENDER LOVING CARE); easy soft diet for some time after the disease runs its course; sanitary habits (cleaning yard from feces, keeping bowls and water bowls clean, most likely the vets are doing the right thing.washing hands when handling each dog. yes yes wash hands well...

there are many entero viruses that hit animals just like humans, but are not 'curable' by anything other then treatment of symptoms. if your male is strong and healthy, and u keep up the good care, he should make it through.

as for young vets, sometimes student vets are better as they are more up to date on diseases and treatments.

sometimes re introducing good bacterias to the gut is needed. cephalaxin is the antibiotic of choice .

there is also circovirus which also presents like parvo apparently, but affects also older dogs while parvo mostly gets young puppies.

[Turkleton]

wrong thread sorry, too many open browser windows.

can be deleted.

Edited November 27, 2014 by Turkleton

[vel_tins]

Eventually we ended at the Muang Ake Pet Hospital on Sukhumvit.

Not really more expensive than NPW, but much more clean and professional.

The doctor, a very nice Lady named "Dr. Jay", explained everything she did in excellent English. (Better than mine.. )

She did a blood and stool test and found loads of bacteria.

After some injections over only two days, the puppies condition improved significantly.

The first sickened puppie is now at nearly 90% again.

The second one, which was sickened 3-4 four days later, is at 80%.

Their "Daddy" is also recovering very quickly.

the treatment is usually the same: re hydration, antibiotics in case of secondary infection or possible bacterial infection since there is no real reason to test for every disease and the vet might want to hit a wide base; TLC (TENDER LOVING CARE); easy soft diet for some time after the disease runs its course; sanitary habits (cleaning yard from feces, keeping bowls and water bowls clean, most likely the vets are doing the right thing.washing hands when handling each dog. yes yes wash hands well........

Exactly.

Especially "TLC" seems to be a very important point. Wife sleeps together with the dogs on the floor, so she can always monitor their condition.

But the most important is: KEEP THEM ALWAYS HYDRATED!

Do the "skin test" and check their gums multiple times a day!

We gave/give them subcutaneous injections at home, until the diarrhoea stops.

[vel_tins]

well, I hope the sweethearts will have much more fortune in their later life...

together with mama

Edited November 28, 2014 by vel_tins

[wayned]

Great ending. I've raised dogs all of my life and Parvo is the Ebola of the animal world.

[vel_tins]

First, I have to say thanks to all for their constructive comments!

Puppies CAN survive Parvo and with my current knowledge, I am almost sure, I could have saved at least one more.

I spoke with my former Vet in Germany, which I have used for more than 15 years and he told me, NOT to give a "quick" Saline IV infusion (like 100cc in a few minutes) if it's somehow avoidable!

This can cause a shock and can lead to death. (exactly that was the reason why my second pup died).

If really necessary, "slow drips" via IV are ok (200 cc/24h or so for a 2 kg puppy).

Otherwise continuous Subcutaneous injections under the skin are the way to go, or an enema if the dog needs fluids more quickly and you can't reach a VET!

And always take care of their Glucose levels. Usually the Vet gives one IV shot at the morning time (along with antibiotics and a med to stop vomiting).

I've also bought a blood sugar tester (for humans) to check their levels. Everything above 70 is ok. 100 is better.

But if you notice some kind of contractions or unusual lethargy, especially at evening/night time, just feed them a few cc of Hales syrup (by a syringe) additionally every few hours.

But if they are still vomiting, rush to the vet and get them an IV glucose shot.

Now I know, why my breeder in Germany hadn't allow any contact to the puppies, or even their mother until all vaccinations were done....

Edited November 29, 2014 by vel_tins