Julian Assange sex case: Swedish court upholds warrant

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Julian Assange sex case: Swedish court upholds warrant

(BBC) Swedish appeal court has upheld an arrest warrant against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, wanted for questioning over sexual assault claims.

The Court of Appeal refused Mr Assange's attempt to have a detention order issued in 2010 revoked.

Mr Assange, who denies the allegations, has sought refuge in the Ecuadorean embassy in London to avoid extradition.

If he goes to Sweden, he fears he could be extradited to the US to face charges of leaking government documents.

Wikileaks has published thousands of secret documents, which have caused intense embarrassment for the US and lifted the lid on diplomatic relations.

'No reason'

Two women in Sweden accuse Mr Assange, 43, of sexual assault.

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30129453


-- BBC 2014-11-21

[ezzra]

Look like this albino fugitive from justice going to get even whiter being cooped up

in that embassy,,,

[Ulysses G.]

This criminal should be brought to justice for his alleged sex crimes and any other crimes that he may have committed.

[JenniferSG]

From the UK papers -

""Both complainants admit to having initiated consensual sexual relations with Mr Assange. They do not complain of any physical injury. The first complainant did not make a complaint for six days (in which she hosted the respondent in her flat [actually her bed] and spoke in the warmest terms about him to her friends) until she discovered he had spent the night with the other complainant. The second complainant, too, failed to complain for several days until she found out about the first complainant: she claimed that after several acts of consensual sexual intercourse, she fell half asleep and thinks that he ejaculated without using a condom – a possibility about which she says they joked afterwards. Both complainants say they did not report him to the police for prosecution but only to require him to have an STD test. However, his Swedish lawyer has been shown evidence of their text messages which indicate that they were concerned to obtain money by going to a tabloid newspaper and were motivated by other matters including a desire for revenge."

[ScotBkk]

This criminal should be brought to justice for his alleged sex crimes and any other crimes that he may have committed.

I think you should be locked up for insinuating he may have committed these crimes without knowing a single solitary thing about his supposed guilt .. get real !!!

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed. The topic isn't about Gitmo, or the US or Bradley Manning, or whatever her name is now.

Please stay on topic.

[Credo]

He will probably get compassionate consideration when he needs medical treatment from a lack of vitamin D due to a shortage of sunlight.

[Baerboxer]

From the UK papers -

""Both complainants admit to having initiated consensual sexual relations with Mr Assange. They do not complain of any physical injury. The first complainant did not make a complaint for six days (in which she hosted the respondent in her flat [actually her bed] and spoke in the warmest terms about him to her friends) until she discovered he had spent the night with the other complainant. The second complainant, too, failed to complain for several days until she found out about the first complainant: she claimed that after several acts of consensual sexual intercourse, she fell half asleep and thinks that he ejaculated without using a condom – a possibility about which she says they joked afterwards. Both complainants say they did not report him to the police for prosecution but only to require him to have an STD test. However, his Swedish lawyer has been shown evidence of their text messages which indicate that they were concerned to obtain money by going to a tabloid newspaper and were motivated by other matters including a desire for revenge."

Obviously guilty under Swedish law then. Appears you can have consensual sex sometime after which the woman changes her mind and the man is in trouble. Interesting ideas on equality and justice.

[Jdiddy]

Considering the US successfully bullied Sweden with the threat of trade sanctions over the Pirate Bay saga, they would indeed send him over there imo

He will probably get compassionate consideration when he needs medical treatment from a lack of vitamin D due to a shortage of sunlight.

England has sunlight?

[sgtsabai]

And at least one of the "complainants" has a CIA connection. Looks like the US still wants a very large piece of his ass. Can you say "disappeared"?

[aboctok]

This criminal should be brought to justice for his alleged sex crimes and any other crimes that he may have committed.

I think you should be locked up for insinuating he may have committed these crimes without knowing a single solitary thing about his supposed guilt .. get real !!!

Not even an insinuation, but a direct assertion. An incredible one: that a person should suffer criminal sanction for crimes of which he is only possibly guilty (may have committed). Two possibilities are evident:

1. Mere allegations, and the associated possibility that crime(s) occurred, so outrage some people that they demand punishment regardless of veracity of guilt;

2. Activity that is somewhat certain to have occurred, so outrages some people that they demand punishment regardless of whether the activity constitutes a crime.

In either case, the outcome for an accused person is, strangely, called being brought to "justice."

[Briggsy]

The U.S. will never let this one go.

[ScotBkk]

This criminal should be brought to justice for his alleged sex crimes and any other crimes that he may have committed.

I think you should be locked up for insinuating he may have committed these crimes without knowing a single solitary thing about his supposed guilt .. get real !!!

Not even an insinuation, but a direct assertion. An incredible one: that a person should suffer criminal sanction for crimes of which he is only possibly guilty (may have committed). Two possibilities are evident:

1. Mere allegations, and the associated possibility that crime(s) occurred, so outrage some people that they demand punishment regardless of veracity of guilt;

2. Activity that is somewhat certain to have occurred, so outrages some people that they demand punishment regardless of whether the activity constitutes a crime.

In either case, the outcome for an accused person is, strangely, called being brought to "justice."

Was merely inferring to Swedish accusations. Now the USA ... that's a whole different ball game and don't want to start any correspondence on this subject since I don't have 10yrs to spare ...... thanks for the reply

[Credo]

The U.S. will never let this one go.

The US never lets anything go. But this is about Sweden and Assange.

Apparently Sweden is not ready to let this go. I also doubt that the UK is ready to let go of his skipping bail.

There is a whole lot of 'letting go' before this guy gets let go.

[Briggsy]

The U.S. will never let this one go.

The US never lets anything go. But this is about Sweden and Assange.

Apparently Sweden is not ready to let this go. I also doubt that the UK is ready to let go of his skipping bail.

There is a whole lot of 'letting go' before this guy gets let go.

First sentence : Agree

Second and third sentences : Disagree, the hand of the U.S. is behind some very unusual interventions in the Swedish justice system.

Fourth and fifth sentences : Agree

[SheungWan]

From the UK papers -

""Both complainants admit to having initiated consensual sexual relations with Mr Assange. They do not complain of any physical injury. The first complainant did not make a complaint for six days (in which she hosted the respondent in her flat [actually her bed] and spoke in the warmest terms about him to her friends) until she discovered he had spent the night with the other complainant. The second complainant, too, failed to complain for several days until she found out about the first complainant: she claimed that after several acts of consensual sexual intercourse, she fell half asleep and thinks that he ejaculated without using a condom – a possibility about which she says they joked afterwards. Both complainants say they did not report him to the police for prosecution but only to require him to have an STD test. However, his Swedish lawyer has been shown evidence of their text messages which indicate that they were concerned to obtain money by going to a tabloid newspaper and were motivated by other matters including a desire for revenge."

What his lawyer is saying. Obviously not impressive enough for the warrant to be dropped.

Edited November 21, 2014 by SheungWan

[Publicus]

Assange is in Putin's back pocket.

Wikileaks sent a hot number to meet Snowden in HKG to get him out and to Moscow where he's trapped indefinitely thanks to Putin's machinations with his South American pals in their presidential palaces.

The Wikileaks cables were very informative to any interested citizen anywhere, although it's possible to read some and not all of them unless one works at the US Department of State where they no doubt are required reading. I keep coming across the leaked diplomatic cables and gain much from them in the course of things.

Snowden and Assange have been called the falcon and the snowman in their dealings with the Russians and with the Russian HimSelf..

The spies who were put out into the cold have little if anything to look forward to indefinitely.

[heybuz]

apparently he's agreed to being interviewed by swedish authorites in GB but fears if he goes to sweden he will be deported to US.

[Credo]

A lot of criminals will agree to be interviewed anywhere they can't be arrested.

[heybuz]

A lot of criminals will agree to be interviewed anywhere they can't be arrested.

or not be deported

[Credo]

Do you have any evidence that he faces charges in the US? Is there some order of deportation/extradition? If so, why wasn't there an attempt to deport him from the UK? The UK is pretty friendly with the US on these sorts of issues.

[heybuz]

do you have evidence that the charges in sweden are not going to be used as a pretence to deportation to the us once in the country, the extradition laws from the uk are a lot stricter than sweden,you will then say wheres the evidence ,if you have both hands and a computer you can google as i have not the time to research for you

[Credo]

So, is he also afraid of the Boogeyman? Perhaps it is the dust bunnies under the bed that he is afraid of.

He is a cowardly person, a keyboard warrior.

He is a completely spent force and one of these days even the Ecuadorian's will tire of having him.

[heybuz]

ok

[Ulysses G.]

do you have evidence that the charges in sweden are not going to be used as a pretence to deportation to the us once in the country

That is his problem. He should have kept his willy under control.

[heybuz]

do you have evidence that the charges in sweden are not going to be used as a pretence to deportation to the us once in the country

That is his problem. He should have kept his willy under control.

[sgtsabai]

Perhaps you should read this article. While some of you right wing faux (not the) news followers may not like it, well, you just can't handle the truth. http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/27491-the-siege-of-julian-assange-is-a-farce?tmpl=component&print=1

[chuckd]

Perhaps you should read this article. While some of you right wing faux (not the) news followers may not like it, well, you just can't handle the truth. http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/27491-the-siege-of-julian-assange-is-a-farce?tmpl=component&print=1

And the truth is there is an EU arrest warrant out for Assange issued by the Swedish government.

There is also that little problem of violating British law by jumping bail when he entered the Embassy and requested asylum.

At this point he is wanted by two nations...neither of which is the US.

[Publicus]

apparently he's agreed to being interviewed by swedish authorites in GB but fears if he goes to sweden he will be deported to US.

Each one of 'em is looking at 40 years, or more.

That's what the falcon got. Same for Aldrich Ames, the CIA turncoat and several of the same others....it's what the twit Manning is also looking at..

The snowman got life cause he so much liked playing in the snow.

Forty years at the Leavenworth federal prison at the US Army installation at Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas.

Forty years in or out of the pen in Kansas is a serious punishment for anyone

[midas]

There you go it wasn't so hard was it to go to London was it?

Julian Assange case: Sweden U-turn on questioning

"We've been waiting for this for over four years."

The lead Swedish prosecutor explained the change of strategy by saying some potential charges against Mr Assange would expire under the statute of limitations in August.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31867829