Help with SIP provider

[KittenKong]

From Thailand,It is better not to engage with service providers from EU. You will face latency issue.

I have no problems using two EU SIP providers from here.

[KittenKong]

Although I am quite a techie (having made my living off of tech knowledge for quite some time) I still get confused about sip options. As I understand it there are 2 distinct situations

1-wanting a local number in your home country that can be forwarded to your Thai number that friends, family and business associates can use to call you, and

2-having a local Thai number that you can call your home country as if it were a local number.

SIP/VOIP is just the function of making/receiving voice calls over the internet. You dont need to actually have a number to do this and you would normally use a software or IP phone rather than having calls forwarded to/from a real phone line.

For numbers that can be dialled by other people you need to look at providers that offer DID (direct incoming dial numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_inward_dial ). These will ring on your software phone or IP phone also, and can also be forwarded to a real phone line, at a cost, though most people would not bother with this.

Some providers in Europe and the US offer DIDs for many countries (I have a UK one that is free), and I think that some of them do Thai numbers. Getting a Thai number from a DID provider in Thailand will probably be quite expensive and fairly pointless unless you want to have a Thai number on which people in Thailand can reach you cheaply when you are elsewhere.

[dharmabm]

Thanks @kittenkong for the clarification. I have a friend who uses Vonage which gives him a US number along with a VoIP phone for a reasonable monthly rate, and although it does not forward to his Thai mobile it does send him messages when a call is missed and he can retrieve voicemails as well. I am pretty sure what I am looking for is possible but I just don't know what the service is called or how much it may cost. I want a US phone number that will forward to my Thai mobile.

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[phazey]

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SIP+Trunk+Providers+Netherlands

1pipe looks good, They've sites in The Netherlands and Singapore - so could possibly trunk through...and (again) they've a free trial...

http://www.1pipe.com/coverage/

I don't think 1pipe offers VOIP, and at least they don't show any rates on their website.

http://www.myvoipprovider.com/en/details/onepipe

[Anthony5]

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SIP+Trunk+Providers+Netherlands

1pipe looks good, They've sites in The Netherlands and Singapore - so could possibly trunk through...and (again) they've a free trial...

http://www.1pipe.com/coverage/

I don't think 1pipe offers VOIP, and at least they don't show any rates on their website.

http://www.myvoipprovider.com/en/details/onepipe

Link doesn't work. I guess I'm gone give VOIPtiger a try.

[phazey]

Link works fine. This is now my home Laptop on a different provider.

[CP3]

Thanks @kittenkong for the clarification. I have a friend who uses Vonage which gives him a US number along with a VoIP phone for a reasonable monthly rate, and although it does not forward to his Thai mobile it does send him messages when a call is missed and he can retrieve voicemails as well. I am pretty sure what I am looking for is possible but I just don't know what the service is called or how much it may cost. I want a US phone number that will forward to my Thai mobile.

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That is called DID service and you will have to pay a fixed monthly rate for the DID(a telephone number) and there will be additional charge for the calls to your Thai mobile(when someone call into your DID).

[Anthony5]

Link works fine. This is now my home Laptop on a different provider.

Sorry, 1.47.145.129 has been greylisted by http:BL. You may try whitelisting on /en/httpbl/whitelist.

[Anthony5]

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SIP+Trunk+Providers+Netherlands

1pipe looks good, They've sites in The Netherlands and Singapore - so could possibly trunk through...and (again) they've a free trial...

http://www.1pipe.com/coverage/

Finally was able to enter the sites you linked to, but there is no way that I can find any international call rates from the 1pipe site.

I can see they charge a monthly fee of 15$, but I assume that is from 1Pipe to 1pipe, which is free with other voip providers, and when click on the "view international rates" you get a black page with no countries or rates on it.

http://www.myvoipprovider.com/z_international_rate.php?campagin=2246

Edited November 30, 2014 by Anthony5

[muratremix]

Although I am quite a techie (having made my living off of tech knowledge for quite some time) I still get confused about sip options. As I understand it there are 2 distinct situations

1-wanting a local number in your home country that can be forwarded to your Thai number that friends, family and business associates can use to call you, and

2-having a local Thai number that you can call your home country as if it were a local number.

First of all, am I correct in this assumption? Second, is there any service that can provide both without breaking the bank?

I've been a bit of an ass in this thread so far, but the info provided has been very helpful. Please forgive my previous indiscretions and help us all understand the issue more fully.

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Get a number in your country and use a GOIP device (Gsm over Voip) that can forward gsm calls to sip provider (betamax for cheap?)

Do same for Thailand if you want to receive calls from Thailand while in your country.

Or convince your friends to call you via line / viber or similar apps for free

[Anthony5]

I have been trying to try out voiptiger on my smartphone for some time now.

My advice, don't bother.

[Anthony5]

From Thailand,It is better not to engage with service providers from EU. You will face latency issue.

No way you can use any sip client to register skype to make calls.

What is the destination country ?

Been looking at Skype manager, and I think to understand that it enables to use Skype over a Sip provider with any soft phone that supports SIP.

http://www.skype.com/en/features/

Also read good reviews about Localphone. Anyone using them?

Comments on the call quality?

One more question, is the VOIP call quality dependent on the SIP provider or is this solely a matter of the VOIP service?

Edited December 15, 2014 by Anthony5

[phazey]

Last point,

The call (not VOIP) quality is dependant of the RTP stream between you and the recipient. SIP only sets up the call,does the signalling between your provider and your destination, then hands off to a peer to peer RTP stream (Between you and your call destination). UNLESS you have configured to use a RTP Proxying service as part of your SIP/VoIP package.

[Anthony5]

Last point,

The call (not VOIP) quality is dependant of the RTP stream between you and the recipient. SIP only sets up the call,does the signalling between your provider and your destination, then hands off to a peer to peer RTP stream (Between you and your call destination). UNLESS you have configured to use a RTP Proxying service as part of your SIP/VoIP package.

Sounds all a bit Chinese to me, but I assume that the RTP stream should be equal regardless of which provider you use. My primary use of the VOIP service will be to call landlines or mobiles.

When I tried VOIP tiger, I got a lot more lag and poorer voice quality compared to Skype, using the same phone calling the same landline overseas.i also called a number within Thailand, and that was the same poor quality.

The only difference was that with Skype I used the Skype app, where with VoipTiger I used my stock Kitkat phone app which you can configure to make SIP calls.

What can have made the difference in quality?

Edited December 16, 2014 by Anthony5

[Anthony5]

So after trying out most VOIP services including Skype, VoipTiger, VoipBuster, Viber, LocalPhone and installing the most advanced audio codecs on my phone, like g.729 and Silk, all with an undesirable result.

I have since last week installed Line Premium Call, which I in the past refused to install because you get thousands of friends of which you've never heard added to your contact list, but this one is not only the cheapest but also works perfect so far.

I've made several calls to overseas landlines and they all give a audio quality comparable with a normal phoneline.

Also with signal strengths that were unusable with Skype or other VOIP services, the quality is still very good. It also shows your real phone number to the recipient, where all the others show a random number.

If I now found a way to weed out all the other crap from Line it would be the perfect app.