Loptr Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If you examine Mr Obama's recent comments on what voters "want" in 2016, it doesn't play very well for the Hillary camp... Once again, an endorsement from the Obama administration will be the kiss of death... http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-american-people-car-smell-2016-campaign/story?id=27108324 "I think the American people, you know, they're going to want -- you know, that new car smell. You know, their own -- they want to drive something off the lot that doesn't have as much mileage as me," Obama told ABC News Chief anchor George Stephanopoulos. The subtle implication of this comment is comedy genius... If Obama is high mileage, then Hillary is on the scrap heap... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Now let's see Mr President, do you see your self as a "great president" ? if yes, than the US of A had enough of " great president" let this country have a president that actually know what he's doing, and I'm sorry to say Mr President, that you have ruined the chances of the next would be African American person who might have aspirations to become one.... I don't agree he has hurt the chances of a future African American president at all. But probably the next one will be a republican and have a LOT more experience before the presidency, or BOTH. Also not a senator. I concur. An experienced, black Republican would have a good chance. My number one pick - black or white - is Codi Rice, but I doubt if she will ever run. Dr Ben Carson seems like a nice guy and I agree with him on some things, but would never vote for him for president, because of his lack of political experience. Condi Rice is nothing but a neocon mouthpiece for the MIC / CFR... Ben Carson is a viable candidate but will never get the nod from the GOP when it comes down to it... As far as your Ron Paul is a racist comment, care to back that up? I've heard Ron called many things, but never a racist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Ron Paul's newsletters. A number of the newsletters criticized civil rights activist Martin Luther King, Jr., calling him a pedophile and "lying socialist satyr".[2][15] These articles told readers that Paul had voted against making Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a federal public holiday, saying "Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."..."reveal decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters Edited November 24, 2014 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) That whole Ron Paul newsletter deal was really a bad decision on his part to allow other to use his name without him closely overseeing what they were doing But having read his books & listened to many of his speeches as well as his track record of standing behind what he believed I really do feel he was the best president America never had. Sadly he did not have any of the two main parties support & was often snubbed for debates as he would have wiped the floor with any who came. But the reasons he was snubbed were also the reasons he was what American needed. Someone with ties willing to kowtow to either Dems nor Repubs It may also not be really known but the real tea party was based on Ron Paul's thinking but later co-opted by folks like Palin etc. The current Tea Party bears but a small amount of resemblance to what it originally started out as in 2009 Lastly of course Israel & the jews hated him as he often suggested the US was not helping Israel by helping them but actually prolonging Israels problems But of course that was seen as being antisemitic...Having read his books I would say he was anything but antisemitic & really had a point Edited November 24, 2014 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) That whole Ron Paul newsletter deal was really a bad decision on his part to allow other to use his name without him closely overseeing what they were doing Do you really believe that Ron Paul didn't know what was in those newsletters, for all those years, with his name blazed across the top of them? "Its hard to believe that a man who wants to oversee the entire U.S. government would provide zero oversight of his own publications, or even bother to read them from time to time..". 3 Pinocchios from the Washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html Edited November 24, 2014 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) That whole Ron Paul newsletter deal was really a bad decision on his part to allow other to use his name without him closely overseeing what they were doing Do you really believe that Ron Paul didn't know what was in those newsletters, for all those years, with his name blazed across the top of them? "Its hard to believe that a man who wants to oversee the entire U.S. government would provide zero oversight of his own publications, or even bother to read them from time to time..". 3 Pinocchios from the Washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html I can only say having read his books & listened to so many of his proposals & speeches he never struck me as the type of person. I like to think I can read a person pretty good & having read as much as I did there would have at least been a hint of it. There never was though. To this day I think his "What If" speech in 2009 is the best I have ever heard from Washington in my life. I have no horse in the race & would not have any qualms about calling a spade a spade if I saw it as such. I really do think he would have been a big plus for America. But I also think due to his views on cutting back military presence, foreign aid to those who do not need it as much as America does etc he would have been a short lived president. (assassinated) As such & liking him as I do in some ways I am glad he is safely retired now. Edited November 24, 2014 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Yes, I really do think Ron Paul is an antisemite and a tin foil hat conspiracy nutcase in the American tradition of antisemites like Henry Ford. His son ... I think it's clear that some of at the least the tin foil hat tendency has rubbed off. Of course he's in a much better position to present a cleaner image and even has a chance to be president. I'm not suggesting that Rand Paul should be rejected because of the REAL DIRT associated with his Daddy, that's not fair of course, and if he runs he deserves to be looked at objectively like any candidate. On the Ron Paul newsletters, sorry, he approved the content in those newsletters and made lots of money off of them. Money off people who wanted to buy hate speech. He needs to be held accountable for the filth that he published as a public figure. Of course Ron Paul never had a chance to be president anyway ... for lots of reasons including the newsletters. He continues with this stuff even much more recently in 2013: Former GOP hopeful Ron Paul to keynote at 'anti-Semitic' conference Catholic organization is described as being possibly 'the single largest group of hard-core anti-Semites in America....A report on the Fatima gig by Henry Decker at Joe Conason’s National Memo blog takes note of Paul’s long history of trafficking in bigotry (lookhere and here, for example), as well as the weird mix of distinguished scholars and cranks he’s gathered at his Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, and goes on to wonder whether Senator Rand Paul can escape his father’s shadow - if indeed he wants to - to turn himself into a credible presidential candidate. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.544981 Edited November 24, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Obama is also on record as saying the country wants " a new car smell with its next President?" He says Hillary fits the bill. I would more appropriately classify Hillary as an aged clunker that runs slow and performs erratically. The smell would also be off as the clunker has been used to transport a lot of bullshit. Two years left of this moron and probably eight years of Hillary. Chelsea would follow but she must give up her $650,000 a year consulting job with one of the networks. Anyone seen anything she has actually had a hand in getting air time? Check out Chelsea's father-in-law if you want a good laugh. Two years left of this moron and probably eight years of Hillary. Don't need to agree with your mischaracterizations to say you are right on the mark in your time frames. Presently and looking forward it would appear to be very probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CMNightRider Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's funny Obama would think Hillary would make a great president. Really Mr. Obama? How on earth would Obama know anything about the qualities and attributes it would take to make a great president? Obama, besides being the most dishonest president to ever occupy the White House, actually holds the record for being the most inept. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baghdad Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 My uncle is a US citizen and he says she is a very evil women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Don't know if Hilary would make a great president or not, but she would probably have more balls than the current one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Democrat party has completely lost touch with reality. There is no way in the world she would ever be elected. But in a way I hope the Democrats to try to run her, as it will guarantee success for whoever the Republicans run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Anything to keep the Greedy, war mongering, self serving Republicans out of office. They ave spent most of the past 8 years trying to prevent anything constructive from being accomplishes in their childish obsession to prevent the opposition from looking good, at the expense of further destroying their own image. and after all the damage GW Bush did to the world and the reputation of the USA, republicans should be barred from government entirely! How much of the tax payers money is (John Boehner) throwing away on a "never can win" lawsuit against the President?? Hopefully, the fat elephant party will bury themselves for good this time., Edited November 25, 2014 by Sheryl removed intentional misspelling of political figure's name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) But in a way I hope the Democrats to try to run her, as it will guarantee success for whoever the Republicans run... Anything to keep the Greedy, war mongering, self serving Republicans out of office. ์Not to pick on these two opposing views but it is a big part of why we left the USA. The general population has been so conditioned/duped into thinking it HAS to be one or the other. But if we have learned nothing else we have learned that neither party is good for America.....FULL STOP But so well have they done their job...so well have they divided the people...so well have they created an illusion of choice & so well have they trained the people into thinking it matters & that one is better than the other or as so often the case one is less worse than the other & that one man still has one vote a voice in the destiny of America. Yet it has for so long been blatantly obvious that those who pull the real strings can pull the left or the right just as easily. The left & the right has been so co-opted that all they represent is two wings of the same old slave of a dysfunctional bird. Yet the masses are happy to argue over which is least worse instead of looking up & say F&$% This We refuse to play this game any longer....These two choices you so graciously give us is in reality no choice at all. Edited November 25, 2014 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 But in a way I hope the Democrats to try to run her, as it will guarantee success for whoever the Republicans run... Anything to keep the Greedy, war mongering, self serving Republicans out of office. ์Not to pick on these two opposing views but it is a big part of why we left the USA. The general population has been so conditioned/duped into thinking it HAS to be one or the other. But if we have learned nothing else we have learned that neither party is good for America.....FULL STOP But so well have they done their job...so well have they divided the people...so well have they created an illusion of choice & so well have they trained the people into thinking it matters & that one is better than the other or as so often the case one is less worse than the other & that one man still has one vote a voice in the destiny of America. Yet it has for so long been blatantly obvious that those who pull the real strings can pull the left or the right just as easily. The left & the right has been so co-opted that all they represent is two wings of the same old slave of a dysfunctional bird. Yet the masses are happy to argue over which is least worse instead of looking up & say F&$% This We refuse to play this game any longer....These two choices you so graciously give us is in reality no choice at all. Sorry to say but most people are stupid, egotistical and hateful. You need look no further than to most of the contributors of this thread. Nice post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Sorry to say but most people are stupid, egotistical and hateful. You need look no further than to most of the contributors of this thread. Nice post. Thanks & yes sorry to say that is why we left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Don't know if Hilary would make a great president or not, but she would probably have more balls than the current one. If by "having more balls" you mean having more connections to the criminal elite in the financial sector then you are correct. She is the "scarlet woman" of Wall Street as is her husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 My uncle is a US citizen and he says she is a very evil women Oh. That's settled then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ron Paul's newsletters. A number of the newsletters criticized civil rights activist Martin Luther King, Jr., calling him a pedophile and "lying socialist satyr".[2][15] These articles told readers that Paul had voted against making Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a federal public holiday, saying "Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day." ... "reveal decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters Come on JT, you are actually citing Wiki as a reliable source? Two can play that game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasVic Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Now let's see Mr President, do you see your self as a "great president" ? if yes, than the US of Ahad enough of " great president"let this country have a president that actually know what he's doing, and I'm sorry to say Mr President,that you have ruined the chances of the next would be African American person who mighthave aspirations to become one....I don't agree he has hurt the chances of a future African American president at all. But probably the next one will be a republican and have a LOT more experience before the presidency, or BOTH. Also not a senator. I concur. An experienced, black Republican would have a good chance. My number one pick - black or white - is Codi Rice, but I doubt if she will ever run.Dr Ben Carson seems like a nice guy and I agree with him on some things, but would never vote for him for president, because of his lack of political experience Condi or Dr. Carson would be good choices, they are both brilliant and have a good sense of what the U.S. needs right now, also if either of them were elected President then they would be the first Black President of the U.S. given that both of their parents are black, unlike Obama who was born from aWhite womans womb In reality though the next president will be a former governor, and the ticket that wins will likely have 2 governors on it - the leading candidates are Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Mike Huckabee, Susana Martinez , Scott Walker and Chris Christie . A Bush -Kasich ticket would be very powerful as it would easily deliver Ohio and Florida which all but sews up the election I love all the talk coming from the dems about how Hillary Clinton has the Presidency in her back pocket if she decides to run, personally I have never thought that Hillary stands a chance given all of her negative baggage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 As far as the democrats go, she's the best man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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