Thai Army chief says majority supports govt; student critics are 'same old faces'

[djjamie]

Majority ... you know ... 48%.

Did you bitch about majorities all the time back in your old country, or did you understand the rules along with the majority of sensible voters, that the political party that gets more votes than any other political party in an election gets the first chance to form a government?...................................

But not the first chance to disrespect the majority and go against their wishes after the first election.

That is why reform is needed.

Thanks Fab.

[Nickymaster]

Majority ... you know ... 48%.

Did you bitch about majorities all the time back in your old country, or did you understand the rules along with the majority of sensible voters, that the political party that gets more votes than any other political party in an election gets the first chance to form a government?...................................

And abuse power and break all possible laws?

[The manic]

This is an example of a story that should not be reported on TV because we can not respond to it, meaningfully, without breaking the law or the rules of TV. Therefore TV is functioning as an uncritical supporter of a ##### ##### and a #####.

[whybother]

Majority ... you know ... 48%.

Did you bitch about majorities all the time back in your old country, or did you understand the rules along with the majority of sensible voters, that the political party that gets more votes than any other political party in an election gets the first chance to form a government?...................................

Where was I bitching about PTP forming government?

[The stuttering parrot]

It's pretty easy to see that day after day now it's either the general or one of his muppets churning out headline after headline with their propaganda because they just can't win the people over.

It's not the like the old days and the media is slowly but surely reporting on news stories that they would have 2 months ago.

I know it hurts the minority junta supporters on here but if an election was held now the PTP would win easily however if this drags on and the attitude adjustments continue then I'm afraid that a Yingluck led PTP would absolutely decimate the yellow dems.

The more they mention the shinawatras you can see that they have know answers of how they will ever swing the peoples opinion away from their elected party.

[fab4]

Majority ... you know ... 48%.

Did you bitch about majorities all the time back in your old country, or did you understand the rules along with the majority of sensible voters, that the political party that gets more votes than any other political party in an election gets the first chance to form a government?...................................

And abuse power and break all possible laws?

You understand checks and balances, right? Now detail what abuse of power the PTP apparently employed along with a list of all possible laws they broke without any retribution via the constitutional and administrative courts (and please do not think that I regard their actions as independent and unbiased in any way) and then I may take your comments seriously and not regard them as just pandering to the usual suspects on here.

[Suffinator]

That wouldn't surprise me at all. When the ignorant masses have no idea what democracy is (doubt most could spell it) then it's easy to get them to swallow a dictatorship run by fascists.

How on earth is Thailand going to cope with AEC ... the fact is they won't because they'll never be able to understand it and will go against all the nationalistic and protectionist propaganda they've been spoon fed.

[stickyrice2000]

When the army said they are the same old faces, it must be just that. No ifs no buts. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I didn't hear you say "YES, SIR!"

[whybother]

Majority ... you know ... 48%.

Did you bitch about majorities all the time back in your old country, or did you understand the rules along with the majority of sensible voters, that the political party that gets more votes than any other political party in an election gets the first chance to form a government?...................................

How does forming government suddenly make 48% a majority?

[NongKhaiKid]

I ask people who understand and have relatives [who oppose the NCPO and the government] to take care and warn them so that the country can move forward in accordance with the steps laid down by the government and bring about happiness.

I understand the Gen has booked Ken Dodd for a sing a long. (Brits of a certain era should comprende)

" Happiness, Happiness the greatest gift I posess. . . "

[The manic]

That wouldn't surprise me at all. When the ignorant masses have no idea what democracy is (doubt most could spell it) then it's easy to get them to swallow a dictatorship run by fascists.

How on earth is Thailand going to cope with AEC ... the fact is they won't because they'll never be able to understand it and will go against all the nationalistic and protectionist propaganda they've been spoon fed.

Good spelling is not a prerequisite for taking part in a democracy. Nor is literacy. Verbal communication is sufficient. Around the world powerless people have been abused, disenfranchised and even tortured. But just because they cannot spell abuse of power,injustice or torture does not mean they are stupid nor does it mean they are not aware of the injustice or torture they are experiencing. Your elitist snobby view is just a poor justification for the abusive powers of the state all round the world.

[Nickymaster]

Majority ... you know ... 48%.

Did you bitch about majorities all the time back in your old country, or did you understand the rules along with the majority of sensible voters, that the political party that gets more votes than any other political party in an election gets the first chance to form a government?...................................

And abuse power and break all possible laws?

You understand checks and balances, right? Now detail what abuse of power the PTP apparently employed along with a list of all possible laws they broke without any retribution via the constitutional and administrative courts (and please do not think that I regard their actions as independent and unbiased in any way) and then I may take your comments seriously and not regard them as just pandering to the usual suspects on here.

Here we go again. You are a hard learner it seems. Or you support red corruption?

Read this! In fact everybody should read it.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/26/politics/politics_30014674.php

[Nickymaster]

It's pretty easy to see that day after day now it's either the general or one of his muppets churning out headline after headline with their propaganda because they just can't win the people over.

It's not the like the old days and the media is slowly but surely reporting on news stories that they would have 2 months ago.

I know it hurts the minority junta supporters on here but if an election was held now the PTP would win easily however if this drags on and the attitude adjustments continue then I'm afraid that a Yingluck led PTP would absolutely decimate the yellow dems.

The more they mention the shinawatras you can see that they have know answers of how they will ever swing the peoples opinion away from their elected party.

Pure desperation.

[The manic]

Although I am saddened that the majority of people support the fascist junta, I did however, miss the vote.

[Fred Flinstone]

Its like saying all the hostages in the bank are Happy and the guy writing" help" on the window just needs an attitude adjustment and is an old hand hostage who isn't fitting in?

Who the hell would buy that?

Same Same but different-

Thailand is Not free to express it opinion - so the surveys they perform mean nothing -

The student protests are widely seen as pro democracy in western countries (which mostly are democratic) so eventually your problem will be the people from those countries shocked by it

[The stuttering parrot]

Defending the indefensible .

Junta supporters make me laugh because they're funny!

[chainarong]

Same old faces, lets hope it isn't the same ones that lead the student rebellion and ousted the last Junta government, but you are right Sir it is the same old faces , same old attitude , same old tired B/S same everything actually , glad you pointed that out.

[fab4]

Majority ... you know ... 48%.

Did you bitch about majorities all the time back in your old country, or did you understand the rules along with the majority of sensible voters, that the political party that gets more votes than any other political party in an election gets the first chance to form a government?...................................

How does forming government suddenly make 48% a majority?

You're the one who is obsessed with the word, not me. If you get bent out of shape every time some says majority when they mean that a political party got more votes than the other political parties, it's not my problem. Is it really worth repeating ad nauseam on a forum?

Relax, live a little, get a life, whatever applies........................

[whybother]

You're the one who is obsessed with the word, not me. If you get bent out of shape every time some says majority when they mean that a political party got more votes than the other political parties, it's not my problem. Is it really worth repeating ad nauseam on a forum?

Relax, live a little, get a life, whatever applies........................

You know what everyone means when they talk about majority? You're an amazing mind reader.

And you still somehow go off on a tangent and talk parties forming government? It seems your mind reading is selective.

[fab4]

Here we go again. You are a hard learner it seems. Or you support red corruption?

Read this! In fact everybody should read it.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/26/politics/politics_30014674.php

An 8 year old article about the Shinawatra family business interests written by an anti Thaksin lecturer has precisely what relevance to

(1) This thread

and

(2) my post?

I look forward to you posting this link repeatedly on other equally irrelevant occasions..........................................

[MaxLee]

"In the long run, we will hold a proper election that is perfect, as expected by most people and the government," he said.

So a perfect election will go as expected by the government. Democracy fail, I'm afraid.

Bangkok ONLY Bangkok is not Thailand ....

[Nickymaster]

Here we go again. You are a hard learner it seems. Or you support red corruption?

Read this! In fact everybody should read it.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/26/politics/politics_30014674.php

An 8 year old article about the Shinawatra family business interests written by an anti Thaksin lecturer has precisely what relevance to

(1) This thread

and

(2) my post?

I look forward to you posting this link repeatedly on other equally irrelevant occasions..........................................

It doesn't matter how old it us. It explains how the Shin clan increased their wealth through corruption.

[The manic]

Not the same old faces of the 76 pro democracy protesters. They were hung from lamp posts and burnt alive. But whoever these young men and women are: they are incredibly brave and deserve out full support. We who never had to watch a military junta steal our vote are humbled by these young Thais.

[than]

Students with old faces ?

some old face faction how try to disrupt reform process........

[tbthailand]

the mere fact that the top general in the country is quoted defending the 'government' and this appears in the news as if it were 'normal' reporting, shows the state the country and the media have arrived at in six short months.

[tbthailand]

these guys are real comedians.

In a related development, National Security Council (NSC) secretary-general Anusit Kunakorn revealed yesterday that Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan had instructed security agencies to keep a close eye on various groups, including those in the provinces.

and this

The move came after Prime Minister Prayut ordered both the NRC and King Prajadhipok's Institute (KPI) to open a forum to listen to students who think differently to the government and were coming out to oppose it.

knowing that the KPI is the absolute heart of conservative, traditional elite thinking in Thailand, and that the NRC is a junta-hand-picked 'reform council', this guy just basically said, "step forward, give us your democratic input and we will have security agencies keep a close eye on you. Thank you for cooperating with the NCPO."

It's too bad that Thai comedians - real ones, not four star versions - can't do normal stand up routines these days. They would have hours of material after every news cycle.

[The manic]

Students with old faces ?

some old face faction how try to disrupt reform process........

A self elected junta made up of a military oligarchy, in any country in the world, who steal the people's vote with guns and imprisonment can not be called reformists except by fascist sympathisers.

[heybruce]

Not the same old faces of the 76 pro democracy protesters. They were hung from lamp posts and burnt alive. But whoever these young men and women are: they are incredibly brave and deserve out full support. We who never had to watch a military junta steal our vote are humbled by these young Thais.

Foreign Policy magazine has an interview of Thongchai Winichakul, a 76 protester who was jailed for two years, now a professor of history at University of Wisconsin-Madison. I won't provide a link because the interview contains a couple of benign references to the topic that must not be mentioned, but ends with:

"But the structural change, in terms of people now being educated about electoral democracy, cannot be rolled back. The conservative side still believes Thailand is a kind of extended version of a small village. They believe that a good authoritarian father has the virtue to guide people to goodness. That's impossible. Thailand has developed so much that democracy in one form or another is needed, because they must allow people to negotiate their different interests. I believe that democracy is not West or East. Whenever a society becomes more complex, at a certain point, people's differences in interests are so great that it's impossible to contain. Democracy is the only good system for that kind of complex society."

I agree. Unfortunately the conservative elite seem to live in some kind of bubble. They seem unaware that the current generation of young Thias contain a great many intelligent, ambitious people who are knowledgeable about the outside world and are looking forward, not backward. Quite a few ex-pats also seem unaware of this (perhaps they only associate with the less intelligent, unambitious Thais). These young people will continue to respect tradition and traditional leaders that do not hold them back, but will reject those that do. The junta ignores this at their peril, and at great peril to Thailand as well.

[Ace of Pop]

Same old lefty faces still bleat here.... The My Wife told Me Mob... + i live in Esarn.and the poor there gang,,

[than]

Students with old faces ?

some old face faction how try to disrupt reform process........

A self elected junta made up of a military oligarchy, in any country in the world, who steal the people's vote with guns and imprisonment can not be called reformists except by fascist sympathisers.

When a political party win election with cheating, threatening and vote-buying, when an "elected" use terrorism to silent opponent and kill children, when an "elected" government use extra judicial process for kill some innocent people without trial, when an "elected" government try to topple rule of law and constitution by illegal means, when " an "elected" steal money from tax payer, steal and cheating poor farmers I'm not call this democracy but Shins Dictatorship

All of this "elected" people believe they are above the law, now it's time to change this for Thailand have true democracy........

And work begin and not please to old factions....... First their ally in police begin to loose their influence, some of them have been jail now..........