Vietnamese fishing trawlers apprehended in Thai waters

[Lite Beer]

Vietnamese fishing trawlers apprehended in Thai waters
The Sunday Nation

Vietnamese fishermen are lined up following their arrest in Chon Buri yesterday.

BANGKOK: -- A total of 54 crew members on seven Vietnamese fishing trawlers were arrested yesterday after they intruded into Thai waters in a hunt for sea snakes and squid off Koh Juang in Chon Buri's Sattahip district.

First Naval Area Command deputy chief of staff, Captain Samreung Janso, said the trawlers - identified as CM 99518 TS , CM 91550 TS , CM 91551 TS , CM 91718 TS , CM 91685 TS , CM 91360 TS , CM 99833 TS - were found to contain hundreds of sea snakes along with some squid and were towed to the Royal Thai Fleet's pier for Sattahip police to proceed with legal action.

Samreung said 60 Vietnamese trawlers have been caught so far for intruding into Thai waters. He said they hunted for sea snakes to export to China at the lucrative price of Bt500-Bt1,000 per snake, while some hunt for squid, as dried squid could be sold at Bt800-Bt1,000 per kilo.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Vietnamese-fishing-trawlers-apprehended-in-Thai-wa-30248861.html

-- The Nation 2014-11-30

[noitom]

Round up those Vietnamese. Jail them. Thais know the important monetary value of sea snakes and squid and abhor another nation's fishermen poaching in their waters to catch these high value prey. Thais couldn't care less if they were just trawling around, but to think the gall of these Vietnamese to take a catch that has high value. Thais will confiscate the catch.

It's going to be a close call, as to whose waters this incident actually occurred in. Was it Vietnam's, Cambodia's or Thailand's? Do they have film documentation satellite and cartography of the location in the waters? Or was it fair game in international waters? Let's see how Vietnam plays this out. Seven, that's a lot of boats captured by the Thais. Doubtful that the Vietnamese won't put up a challenge to this action.

[RustBucket]

How often do Thai fishing boats encroach in other nation's waters I wonder?

I seem to remember a certain incident when Thais illegally fishing in Indonesian waters actually murdered two Indonesian naval officers and threw them overboard.

Thais seem to have free reign to commit crimes against non-Thais with complete impunity. Look at how that news never got followed up on. Same as a certain German stabbed to death in Samui recently and even the KT case and many others that come to mind and are just too many to touch on.

[chainarong]

This could be a Vietnamese HO CHI MiN fishing clubs yearly outing and this year Thailand is their destination , to celebrate the start of the ASEAN alliance and to help TAT build up the tourist numbers.

[Soutpeel]

Round up those Vietnamese. Jail them. Thais know the important monetary value of sea snakes and squid and abhor another nation's fishermen poaching in their waters to catch these high value prey. Thais couldn't care less if they were just trawling around, but to think the gall of these Vietnamese to take a catch that has high value. Thais will confiscate the catch.

It's going to be a close call, as to whose waters this incident actually occurred in. Was it Vietnam's, Cambodia's or Thailand's? Do they have film documentation satellite and cartography of the location in the waters? Or was it fair game in international waters? Let's see how Vietnam plays this out. Seven, that's a lot of boats captured by the Thais. Doubtful that the Vietnamese won't put up a challenge to this action.

Chonburi/Sattahip area is not even close to Vietnam's or Cambodian waters, so not close call at all

Technically speaking the gulf of thailand except where it meets the south china sea doesn't have "international waters " the 12 mile limit or continental shelf limits dont apply either this is one thee reasons there is disputed waters between Thailand and Cambodia and a JDA with Malaysia in the south

Vietnamese fishermen do fish Thai waters and get chased by the navy on a frequent basis, this time they got caught that's all

[angsta]

Were they flaunting the strict 'slaves per vessel' quota?

[Sviss Geez]

Round up those Vietnamese. Jail them. Thais know the important monetary value of sea snakes and squid and abhor another nation's fishermen poaching in their waters to catch these high value prey. Thais couldn't care less if they were just trawling around, but to think the gall of these Vietnamese to take a catch that has high value. Thais will confiscate the catch.

It's going to be a close call, as to whose waters this incident actually occurred in. Was it Vietnam's, Cambodia's or Thailand's? Do they have film documentation satellite and cartography of the location in the waters? Or was it fair game in international waters? Let's see how Vietnam plays this out. Seven, that's a lot of boats captured by the Thais. Doubtful that the Vietnamese won't put up a challenge to this action.

"It's going to be a close call, as to whose waters this incident actually occurred in"

Perhaps this quote from the OP will clarify the "close call" that you see...

"A total of 54 crew members on seven Vietnamese fishing trawlers were arrested yesterday after they intruded into Thai waters ..."

[Sviss Geez]

How often do Thai fishing boats encroach in other nation's waters I wonder?

I seem to remember a certain incident when Thais illegally fishing in Indonesian waters actually murdered two Indonesian naval officers and threw them overboard.

Thais seem to have free reign to commit crimes against non-Thais with complete impunity. Look at how that news never got followed up on. Same as a certain German stabbed to death in Samui recently and even the KT case and many others that come to mind and are just too many to touch on.

"How often do Thai fishing boats encroach in other nation's waters I wonder?"

If they do then they are subject to arrest in the same way, there is no special treatment for Thais and even if that was happening it does not give other nations the right to act in the same illegal way.

"Thais seem to have free reign to commit crimes against non-Thais with complete impunity."

Nonsense, again.

[lildragon]

Chonburi? Those fisherman were a long way from home!

[elgordo38]

Kind of scary methinks their own waters are fished out like so many places around the globe.

[FangFerang]

Round up those Vietnamese. Jail them. Thais know the important monetary value of sea snakes and squid and abhor another nation's fishermen poaching in their waters to catch these high value prey. Thais couldn't care less if they were just trawling around, but to think the gall of these Vietnamese to take a catch that has high value. Thais will confiscate the catch.

It's going to be a close call, as to whose waters this incident actually occurred in. Was it Vietnam's, Cambodia's or Thailand's? Do they have film documentation satellite and cartography of the location in the waters? Or was it fair game in international waters? Let's see how Vietnam plays this out. Seven, that's a lot of boats captured by the Thais. Doubtful that the Vietnamese won't put up a challenge to this action.

I agree and this adds fuel to the fire started last month. A group of Vietnamese women were lured into the country and forced into prostitution by Thai men. The men raped them, and the women were found walking down the road weeping, in utter despair. The solution?

They ran them to the border and expelled them. Then when the press caught wind of it, the government invited them back to press charges once all the evidence was gone.

Thailand lost a lot of face over it, and the families of the Vietnamese will not forget it either.

[FangFerang]

Round up those Vietnamese. Jail them. Thais know the important monetary value of sea snakes and squid and abhor another nation's fishermen poaching in their waters to catch these high value prey. Thais couldn't care less if they were just trawling around, but to think the gall of these Vietnamese to take a catch that has high value. Thais will confiscate the catch.

It's going to be a close call, as to whose waters this incident actually occurred in. Was it Vietnam's, Cambodia's or Thailand's? Do they have film documentation satellite and cartography of the location in the waters? Or was it fair game in international waters? Let's see how Vietnam plays this out. Seven, that's a lot of boats captured by the Thais. Doubtful that the Vietnamese won't put up a challenge to this action.

"It's going to be a close call, as to whose waters this incident actually occurred in"

Perhaps this quote from the OP will clarify the "close call" that you see...

"A total of 54 crew members on seven Vietnamese fishing trawlers were arrested yesterday after they intruded into Thai waters ..."

Actually your posting of the OP quote utterly lacks substance and is a hasty dismissal. Vietnam and Cambodia signed a joint water-sharing treaty some time ago. The disputed Thai versus Cambodian/Vietnamese claims overlap very closely to where the boats were captured (yes, the Asean family has unresolved quarrels too)...here is a link to a map showing just how debatable whose waters are whose in the Gulf of Thailand (please remember that Cambodia and Vietnam signed a treaty to share waters, meaning they share disputes as well). http://khmerization.blogspot.com/2011/11/oil-gas-and-improving-thai-cambodian.html

Utter nonsense.

Edited November 30, 2014 by FangFerang

[Chicog]

Maybe they will blame them for the wanton destruction of Thailand's fishing grounds by overfishing and the devastating use of harmful fishing methods, such as taking every juvenile fish as "trash fish" to feed their prawn farming industry.

After all, the Thais wouldn't possibly behave in such a greedy fashion, would them? Has to be those pesky Vietnamese.

[FangFerang]

How often do Thai fishing boats encroach in other nation's waters I wonder?

I seem to remember a certain incident when Thais illegally fishing in Indonesian waters actually murdered two Indonesian naval officers and threw them overboard.

Thais seem to have free reign to commit crimes against non-Thais with complete impunity. Look at how that news never got followed up on. Same as a certain German stabbed to death in Samui recently and even the KT case and many others that come to mind and are just too many to touch on.

"How often do Thai fishing boats encroach in other nation's waters I wonder?"

If they do then they are subject to arrest in the same way, there is no special treatment for Thais and even if that was happening it does not give other nations the right to act in the same illegal way.

"Thais seem to have free reign to commit crimes against non-Thais with complete impunity."

Nonsense, again.

Please see my posts below. There is historical substance to both of Rustbucket's claims...although I agree that tit-for-tat seems unacceptable, and nations and neighbors do it with impunity every day. .

[rickirs]

How many trawlers has the Navy intercepted carrying illegal petrol to South Thailand ports? Vietnamese fishing trawlers are easier to catch and there's no political fallout.

[Jeremy50]

I doubt there is much life left in the sea. Welcome to the future.