webfact Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 New haul linked to ex-CIB chiefThe NationBANGKOK: -- MOST OF the items found at an antique shop and in an apartment in northern Bangkok are imitations and the shop probably has no permit to sell them, a police commander said yesterday.Police also found ivory items, artefacts, possibly illegally felled timber, antique Chinese and European furniture as well ancient Buddha images, said Sahabhum Bhumtitterat, director of the Office of National Museums who jointly inspected the items with the policemen.The hoard was found at Sawong Antiques and Sawong Apartment, which are owned by Sawong Mungthiang and Rerngsak Saknarongdej, who police believe have connections with the former Central Investigation Bureau chief Lt-General Pongpat Chayaphan.Pol Maj-General Prasobchok Phrommool, chief of the police's Natural Resources And Environmental Crime Division, said these men would face three years in prison and/or a maximum fine of Bt300,000 if they are not able to produce permits for selling artefacts. Though most of the items found in the two locations were imitations, they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law, Sahabhum said.The authorities are verifying these items and results should be known soon, he added.Meanwhile, residents from Chiang Rai's Chiang Khong district are calling on police to check out the Buddha images and amulets found in Pongpat's 11 homes to see if they are part of the items stolen 36 years ago from a 700-year-old temple. Former kamnan Praphat Kaewta said one of the items most revered was a Buddha image called Phra Sing that went missing in a series of break-ins in 1978. Phra Sing is about 63 centimetres tall and 55cm wide.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/New-haul-linked-to-ex-CIB-chief-30249408.html-- The Nation 2014-12-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Sata Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) To be frank most of these items are worthless in Europe. I cannot see a value but then I am a Farang. (Writing this from my 800 year old home with lots more down the road here in Norfolk!) Ps...must send the wife out to gather some stones in the garden and take to market on Friday!. Edited December 8, 2014 by Jay Sata 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted December 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2014 Given that a lot of these alledged crimes involve stolen relics and given the spectacular downfall of this group, I might start to pay a bit more attention to the overall concept of "karma". They seem to be getting paid back without mercy. Good job. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 ......1 word comes to mind.....perverse..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted December 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2014 maybe if they increased the penalties so that they bwere fitting, 3 years jail and a few hundred thousand baht, they really need to hurt their bank accounts, make the fines in the millions and the jail terms a lot higher. Until they actually make them pay huge fines that really lower their bank accounts they wont stop, everything here revolves around profit so by taking it all they will start to realize it isnt worth losing their family fortunes to be corrupt. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. Hmmm... I read it differently. I thought it meant that, under Thai law, there are 9 specific artifacts that may not be reproduced (since there was no earlier reference to them in the article). But my question was more about what those articles are. Pure curiosity. I'm just starting my morning coffee, so maybe I'm missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anthony5 Posted December 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? I think it refers to the fact that it are Thai artifacts, you know everything Thai has intellectual property rights, items from outside Thailand not so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. Hmmm... I read it differently. I thought it meant that, under Thai law, there are 9 specific artifacts that may not be reproduced (since there was no earlier reference to them in the article). But my question was more about what those articles are. Pure curiosity. I'm just starting my morning coffee, so maybe I'm missing something I'm also curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. Hmmm... I read it differently. I thought it meant that, under Thai law, there are 9 specific artifacts that may not be reproduced (since there was no earlier reference to them in the article). But my question was more about what those articles are. Pure curiosity. I'm just starting my morning coffee, so maybe I'm missing something I'm also curious. Artifacts that are protected from reproduction, accused of lese majeste, starts to ring a bell ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Mysteriouser and mysteriouser says Alice..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hmmm... I read it differently. I thought it meant that, under Thai law, there are 9 specific artifacts that may not be reproduced (since there was no earlier reference to them in the article). But my question was more about what those articles are. Pure curiosity. I'm just starting my morning coffee, so maybe I'm missing something I'm also curious. Artifacts that are protected from reproduction, accused of lese majeste, starts to ring a bell ? I doubt that is the issue. I assume the artificats are antiquities of some kind, which a particular law bars from reproduction because of the esteem within which they are held. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It is like the emerald Buddha if you find a chunk of jade and copy it then your screwed. or try to copy the golden buddha these thing can't be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khounteen Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Look like they might even dig up his ancestors graves soon. Some overseas news site are reporting that the shop is owned by a former . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidee Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 ", they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" can someone enlighten me what are the nine items you cannot reproduce ??? the article surely does not explain that part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So the country renowned for copying will not let you copy their artifacts? PRICELESS !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It is like the emerald Buddha if you find a chunk of jade and copy it then your screwed. or try to copy the golden buddha these thing can't be done.That sort of makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmann Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 To be frank most of these items are worthless in Europe. I cannot see a value but then I am a Farang. (Writing this from my 800 year old home with lots more down the road here in Norfolk!) Ps...must send the wife out to gather some stones in the garden and take to market on Friday!. Thats not true ,look at some of the high end auctions asian art ,your be shocked at the prices , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. So not like raybans or Levis then. What a convenient opportunity for fakes. These can't be copied by law. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshiremusicman Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. What kind of an answer is that? You are only reiterating the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So the country renowned for copying will not let you copy their artifacts? PRICELESS !! Different strokes for different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx22cb Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Mysteriouser and mysteriouser says Alice....."Mysteriouser" might have been uttered by the Thai Alice.The Lewis Carroll Alice said "Curiouser". Edited December 9, 2014 by tx22cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 ......1 word comes to mind.....perverse..... ..... fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Mysteriouser and mysteriouser says Alice....."Mysteriouser" might have been uttered by the Thai Alice.The Lewis Carroll Alice said "Curiouser". just checking to see if anyone noticed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nope nobody did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. So not like raybans or Levis then. What a convenient opportunity for fakes. These can't be copied by law. Lol Thai Levis are "originals".....Levis factory in the US was closed long time ago.....and the ones selling now in the US are from Thailand, China, Indonesia, etc, etc....Same with Lee. Ironically....the very much appreciated made in USA original Levis 505 can be found in many second hand clothing stores in Thailand under $5.00 and some in pristine condition. Second hand clothing stores in the US sells those for well over $50...if you can find it. Edited December 9, 2014 by umbanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 "they did not include the nine items that cannot be reproduced under Thai law" Out of curiosity, does anyone know what this statement refers to...? There are certain things that cannot be reproduced by law here, nine of the artefacts fell under that category. The remainder didn't, ie there is no restriction on the reproduction of those. What kind of an answer is that? You are only reiterating the obvious. Why cant some of you people just say "I DONT KNOW"----- Typical load of bull from those that think they know it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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