webfact Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Indonesian President Joko Widodo rejects Bali Nine clemency for Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran BALI: -- INDONESIAN President Joko Widodo has ruled out issuing pardons for any drug convicts on death row, including two Australians being held in Bali. Bali Nine inmates Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran have had a clemency request before the president for more than two years. “I will reject clemency request submitted by 64 death convicted of drugs cases,” President Jokowi said during a lecture at Gadjah Mada University on Tuesday. According to Indonesian news website Kompas.com, President Jokowi said that most of the prisoners had “destroyed the future of the nation”. He said the rejection of clemency served as “important shock therapy” for drug dealers, traffickers and users. Mr Joko’s new policy will condemn Chan, Sukumaran and more than 60 other drug prisoners to the firing squad. The comments come just a week after the president announced that five convicts would be executed by the end of the month. However, it’s not known if the two Australians will be among those put to death. Sources also cautioned that Jokowi’s predecessor Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono had previously made promises about rejecting clemency bids. Full story: http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/indonesian-president-joko-widodo-rejects-bali-nine-clemency-for-andrew-chan-and-myuran-sukumaran/story-fnh81fz8-1227150620888 -- News.com.au 2014-12-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Confuscious Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 Do the crime?Face the consequences.Bali (Indonesia) is not Thailand or Europe. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 Well since the condemned have "destoyed the furture of the nation" in the words of Joko ... the nation has no future, good riddence to that barbaric "nation" run under despotic cruel customs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MobileContent Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 Good move from the new President 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 Nothing surprising from the cesspit of the world. People smugglers who bribe officials, including the military,are encouraged, inflicting misery and death on thousands but they posture about executing a few drug mules ( but never ever manage to catch the big fish). Truly the wretched of the earth and not in the sense intended by Fanon. Makes Thailand look like a paradise and a hub of equality. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 The whole war on drugs has been a tragedy and has done little to stem the tide. The presidents remarks are wildly exaggerated. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Nothing surprising from the cesspit of the world. People smugglers who bribe officials, including the military,are encouraged, inflicting misery and death on thousands but they posture about executing a few drug mules ( but never ever manage to catch the big fish). Truly the wretched of the earth and not in the sense intended by Fanon. Makes Thailand look like a paradise and a hub of equality. Which country are you talking about? Indonesia, Malaysia, Burma or Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If the corruption there is as bad as everywhere else who is guilty and who is innocent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Nothing surprising from the cesspit of the world. People smugglers who bribe officials, including the military,are encouraged, inflicting misery and death on thousands but they posture about executing a few drug mules ( but never ever manage to catch the big fish). Truly the wretched of the earth and not in the sense intended by Fanon. Makes Thailand look like a paradise and a hub of equality. Maybe the message from the Indonesian president is aimed at the DRUG MULES? the mules, being the weakest link the easiest to catch are legitimate targets, without the mules, the supply line is unassailable and thus big fish can't sell the drugs and users can't get the drugs, something must be done to curtail the ever growing drug problems, and if it take extreme measures to achieve it, than so be it... Edited December 10, 2014 by ezzra 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) How exactly did the drug smugglers destroy the future of Indonesia?! That guy sounds so delusional! Edited December 10, 2014 by pacovl46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jamiesilver Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mules are infinite - easy to obtain and cost nothing to sacrifice except for the cost of doing business. In reality what is happening is, the law is pretending to do its job so as to protect the real criminals which no doubt fund the gov at some stage in the Indo Pyramid. it also makes the president look tough when in reality he isnt. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Have no compassion for these criminals. What they wanted to do was destroy lives with what they were to import. A life time in goal offers a lot more than their sudden death. Maybe the new man in charge wants to appear tough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Have no compassion for these criminals. What they wanted to do was destroy lives with what they were to import. A life time in goal offers a lot more than their sudden death. Maybe the new man in charge wants to appear tough? A lifetime in goal? Sounds like Beckham. On a more serious note though. There are drugs and drugs. I myself do not hold marijuana in the same arena as narcotics yet there are many people rotting in gaol around the world for being mules for a drug that many states of the USA are now making legal and even one country that is legally selling it. Something of a travesty there.' Having said that though. I do agree that the rest should rot in hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Wow, what a Christmas present for those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Good decision by the President 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pomthai Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 Compassionate lot you 'holier than thou' crowd aren't ya? I assume you all consider the Indonesian legal system to be developed enough to decide whether somebody lives or dies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottocus Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Make them druggies pay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Compassionate lot you 'holier than thou' crowd aren't ya? I assume you all consider the Indonesian legal system to be developed enough to decide whether somebody lives or dies. Like it or not it is their system. If you don't like their system, stay out and especially don't run drugs through there if you think their system is lame and it may cost you your life. I spend at least 30 days a year surfing in Bali and think it is a truly wonderful place and a whole lot of fun. Respect their laws and their people and all will be well. Edited December 10, 2014 by F430murci 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 rejection of clemency served as “important shock therapy” for drug dealers, traffickers and users. Thailand take note! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copa8 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Had these two been white, I wonder would the sentiment here been any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Well since the condemned have "destoyed the furture of the nation" in the words of Joko ... the nation has no future, good riddence to that barbaric "nation" run under despotic cruel customs. woooooooooooow Lucky that Thailand has soooo much better laws. Laws like being arrested for "Lese majesty" and put in jail for 18 years without bail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooa Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Do the crime?Face the consequences.Bali (Indonesia) is not Thailand or Europe. No, it's not Europe. It's a backward shithole with a massive history of human rights abuses and impunity for police and military violators. That's the truth about Indonesia. Edited December 11, 2014 by toooa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooa Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Compassionate lot you 'holier than thou' crowd aren't ya?I assume you all consider the Indonesian legal system to be developed enough to decide whether somebody lives or dies. Like it or not it is their system. If you don't like their system, stay out and especially don't run drugs through there if you think their system is lame and it may cost you your life.I spend at least 30 days a year surfing in Bali and think it is a truly wonderful place and a whole lot of fun. Respect their laws and their people and all will be well. Likewise, I hear the Islamic State is a fun place, as long as you obey their laws, it is a truly wonderful place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooa Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Make them druggies pay. just like the Nazis said about the Jews.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddyjoe41 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Compassionate lot you 'holier than thou' crowd aren't ya? I assume you all consider the Indonesian legal system to be developed enough to decide whether somebody lives or dies. As far as I can make out,they made the decision to die themselves when they decided to break the rules of the country by entering with the product that is widely known to be punishable by death in that country,do the crime pay the fine.We all have that choice freely.In my opinion there are enough other countries that do not have the death penalty for that offence.These people do not care or think about all the young and elderly people that they indirectly give the death penalty to,by bringing the drug into any country,so why should we care about the decision that they have already made themselves?through greed one way or another.Good riddance to bad rubbish,better world without. Edited December 11, 2014 by paddyjoe41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Well since the condemned have "destoyed the furture of the nation" in the words of Joko ... the nation has no future, good riddence to that barbaric "nation" run under despotic cruel customs. Why do we make laws if we do not enforce them?? Look at the Western world, full of dopeheads. Why do so many Christians go to a Muslim Nation and spend their money on Holidays ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Had these two been white, I wonder would the sentiment here been any different? Not from my side. Treat all the same even if they are green with the ultimate fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarky66 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 A little good news to brighten my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I wish they would just hurry up & execute these people. Sick of hearing about it. The little Australian twerps have it coming to them......no doubt a bit of a shock after leaving 'Nanny State' Australia where people are virtually rewarded for committing crimes. The bullet is coming your way......Som Nom Na, especially that evil little Chan grub. Now it seems the only thing left for these grubs to ponder about is, will it be a fast head shot that kills or a slow bleed out after multiple body shots. I wonder if there will be a live telecast ? Edited December 11, 2014 by neverdie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkungbank Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I don't agree used aggressive to over come aggressive, can anyone suggest what should be done? build a five stars prison like Sweden? These people really don't care the users, they just want to make fast money. Drug users normally from poor family which cause much trouble in soceity like stealing, rob and even prosititute themselves. In any plane to sign board in airport already warned death penalty for drug carriers into that country. In China to control over 1 Billion population a strong laws have to enforce but should be study case to case basis in some case might he or she really don't know like the tourist taking a taxi which the driver carry some drug landed her in hell for sometimes over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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