Movie-makers missed the point completely

[Alwyn]

It's not just the eagle. Go to Katanas website and check out the colours. Move your cursor towards the top of the screen to see them to best effect.

hmm i know the american eagle is clutching at arrows, are you clutching at straws?

btw ,there is no "katana" and the kantana.com website is baby and navy blue with no sign of the eagle

The eagle is there at the top of the home page and on the left and on the right... Kind of hard to miss

[Thai at Heart]

It's not just the eagle. Go to Katanas website and check out the colours. Move your cursor towards the top of the screen to see them to best effect.

hmm i know the american eagle is clutching at arrows, are you clutching at straws?

btw ,there is no "katana" and the kantana.com website is baby and navy blue with no sign of the eagle

The eagle is there at the top of the home page and on the left and on the right... Kind of hard to miss

[lil fluffy clouds]

"Freidian slip" by look of it, may need be recognised for it's unconscious honesty...

[Alwyn]

It's not just the eagle. Go to Katanas website and check out the colours. Move your cursor towards the top of the screen to see them to best effect.

hmm i know the american eagle is clutching at arrows, are you clutching at straws?

btw ,there is no "katana" and the kantana.com website is baby and navy blue with no sign of the eagle

The eagle is there at the top of the home page and on the left and on the right... Kind of hard to miss

Thai at heart, did your message get taken away or something?

[skildpadden]

I have seen very little real background on this.

I used to work in Thailand as a post-production specialist, so know some of the background.

The director is the son of the owner of Kantana, one of the oldest and biggest media companies in Thailand that makes a lot of the most popular Thai television soaps.

It is a very wealthy company, and the family that owns Kantana are reputed to be worth over a billion Baht.

Kulp Kaljareuk is one of two sons of the Kantana family.

They will inherit the company and be multi-millionaires.

Kulp's elder brother is gay, which of course doesn't matter, but he spends an hour every morning getting made up, spends millions on designer clothes and handbags, and is only interested in making shows about fashion. He is universally detested, and everyone in the industry knows that it will be disastrous for the company if he takes over.

For a while, the father disowned him, but finally relented and brought him back into the company.

However, his hopes for the future of the company must rest on his son Kulp.

Fresh from film school in the US, Kulp was put in charge of the feature film division, and given the budget to make films. His first feature film 'Hong Hoon' flopped at the box office.

Still in his twenties, this is unfortunately a classic example of a boy who has had the best education that money can buy, who has been given the resources to follow his dreams, but who has no idea what the real world is like.

Let's make no mistake about it. There is a section of Thai society which treats the nazi emblems as 'chic' and trendy, with no regard for what these emblems symbolize.

One thing that no one has picked up on is that this film was directed by Kulp Kaljareuk, whose company position is Managing Director of Kantana Motion Pictures.

Please see the logo attached.

Why has nobody picked up on the fact that the very logo of the company is itself remarkably close to the Nazi eagle?

Again, it is just seen as chic and trendy.

Interesting post. Thanks for the background info.

[Thai at Heart]

It's not just the eagle. Go to Katanas website and check out the colours. Move your cursor towards the top of the screen to see them to best effect.

hmm i know the american eagle is clutching at arrows, are you clutching at straws?

btw ,there is no "katana" and the kantana.com website is baby and navy blue with no sign of the eagle

The eagle is there at the top of the home page and on the left and on the right... Kind of hard to miss

Thai at heart, did your message get taken away or something?

Edit mess. I wanted to say that it is aside from anything the most inavigable website known to man also.

[KhnomKhnom]

I taught Kulp entertainment media along with about 15 other Thai students for about 3 yrs via Mahidol. I found him a complete gentleman and very modest relative to his family standing in film/tv biz and the classes.

This story is a tempest in a teapot because 1. Thai universities do not stress world history to many students, 2. Thai are generally not interested in world history nor current events outside Thailand, 3. There are many pop cultural uses of hated and controversial icons including the wide use of both Che, Castro, and Serpico faces and wearing Santa hats in Tesco, and most questioned do not know the significance of any of these icons, 4. the swastika is an old and common Buddhist image and, oriented differently, can be seen often in Buddhist lore and images, and 5. the vetting process in Thailand is unfamiliar with many Western images and slang, as seen in the censorship of movies and tv here.

The Hitler image was clearly a mistake. Let us all learn more about Western ideas and images because Thailand is now clearly IN the whole world and can no longer pretend otherwise.

[Enoon]

I taught Kulp entertainment media along with about 15 other Thai students for about 3 yrs via Mahidol. I found him a complete gentleman and very modest relative to his family standing in film/tv biz and the classes.

This story is a tempest in a teapot because 1. Thai universities do not stress world history to many students, 2. Thai are generally not interested in world history nor current events outside Thailand, 3. There are many pop cultural uses of hated and controversial icons including the wide use of both Che, Castro, and Serpico faces and wearing Santa hats in Tesco, and most questioned do not know the significance of any of these icons, 4. the swastika is an old and common Buddhist image and, oriented differently, can be seen often in Buddhist lore and images, and 5. the vetting process in Thailand is unfamiliar with many Western images and slang, as seen in the censorship of movies and tv here.

The Hitler image was clearly a mistake. Let us all learn more about Western ideas and images because Thailand is now clearly IN the whole world and can no longer pretend otherwise.

According to poster earlschwalbe Khun Kulp attended film school in Los Angeles not Thailand. I'm only guessing, but I would not be surprised to find that he, as I did when I attended film school, watched, as part of his studies the cinema "greats" of the 20th century. He will also have discussed, in group, the ideas and imagery contained in those films.

It is very likely that he, as I did, watched and discussed "Triumph of the WiIl".

If he did so he would have got a VERY good idea of what the Nazi imagery in that film was about and the philosophy of the people who commissioned it.

We would have to ask him, but I suspect he would decline to answer. After all we wouldn't want a confrontation - would we?

Edited December 14, 2014 by Enoon

[SheungWan]

I taught Kulp entertainment media along with about 15 other Thai students for about 3 yrs via Mahidol. I found him a complete gentleman and very modest relative to his family standing in film/tv biz and the classes.

This story is a tempest in a teapot because 1. Thai universities do not stress world history to many students, 2. Thai are generally not interested in world history nor current events outside Thailand, 3. There are many pop cultural uses of hated and controversial icons including the wide use of both Che, Castro, and Serpico faces and wearing Santa hats in Tesco, and most questioned do not know the significance of any of these icons, 4. the swastika is an old and common Buddhist image and, oriented differently, can be seen often in Buddhist lore and images, and 5. the vetting process in Thailand is unfamiliar with many Western images and slang, as seen in the censorship of movies and tv here.

The Hitler image was clearly a mistake. Let us all learn more about Western ideas and images because Thailand is now clearly IN the whole world and can no longer pretend otherwise.

Something not quite right about 'a mistake' which just keeps popping right back up like whack-a-mole and yet right on cue always manages to receive the accompanying lets kick it into the long grass smoothing treatment.

[Enoon]

I taught Kulp entertainment media along with about 15 other Thai students for about 3 yrs via Mahidol. I found him a complete gentleman and very modest relative to his family standing in film/tv biz and the classes.

This story is a tempest in a teapot because 1. Thai universities do not stress world history to many students, 2. Thai are generally not interested in world history nor current events outside Thailand, 3. There are many pop cultural uses of hated and controversial icons including the wide use of both Che, Castro, and Serpico faces and wearing Santa hats in Tesco, and most questioned do not know the significance of any of these icons, 4. the swastika is an old and common Buddhist image and, oriented differently, can be seen often in Buddhist lore and images, and 5. the vetting process in Thailand is unfamiliar with many Western images and slang, as seen in the censorship of movies and tv here.

The Hitler image was clearly a mistake. Let us all learn more about Western ideas and images because Thailand is now clearly IN the whole world and can no longer pretend otherwise.

Something not quite right about 'a mistake' which just keeps popping right back up like whack-a-mole and yet right on cue always manages to receive the accompanying lets kick it into the long grass smoothing treatment.

Correct. It's a "mistake" which, given the present situation in Thailand, sounds increasingly like the quacking of a duck.

[khaowong1]

I have seen very little real background on this.

I used to work in Thailand as a post-production specialist, so know some of the background.

The director is the son of the owner of Kantana, one of the oldest and biggest media companies in Thailand that makes a lot of the most popular Thai television soaps.

It is a very wealthy company, and the family that owns Kantana are reputed to be worth over a billion Baht.

Kulp Kaljareuk is one of two sons of the Kantana family.

They will inherit the company and be multi-millionaires.

Kulp's elder brother is gay, which of course doesn't matter, but he spends an hour every morning getting made up, spends millions on designer clothes and handbags, and is only interested in making shows about fashion. He is universally detested, and everyone in the industry knows that it will be disastrous for the company if he takes over.

For a while, the father disowned him, but finally relented and brought him back into the company.

However, his hopes for the future of the company must rest on his son Kulp.

Fresh from film school in the US, Kulp was put in charge of the feature film division, and given the budget to make films. His first feature film 'Hong Hoon' flopped at the box office.

Still in his twenties, this is unfortunately a classic example of a boy who has had the best education that money can buy, who has been given the resources to follow his dreams, but who has no idea what the real world is like.

Let's make no mistake about it. There is a section of Thai society which treats the nazi emblems as 'chic' and trendy, with no regard for what these emblems symbolize.

One thing that no one has picked up on is that this film was directed by Kulp Kaljareuk, whose company position is Managing Director of Kantana Motion Pictures.

Please see the logo attached.

Why has nobody picked up on the fact that the very logo of the company is itself remarkably close to the Nazi eagle?

Again, it is just seen as chic and trendy.

you are completely right about the crest, although it does look rather like this one

Easy, Easy, let's don't jump off the rails here..

[bangrak]

11 million lifes lost in the holocaust? Is this israëli 'revisionism'?

[SheungWan]

11 million lifes lost in the holocaust? Is this israëli 'revisionism'?

Once you add gays, gypsies, the physically and mentally impaired, and Slavs, what figure would you like us to agree on?

[DavidBonnie]

It is not a mistake. Chula students recently used Hitler imagery and the university was roundly criticised. Had it been a mistake they would have rectified it and ensured it never happened again.

What better imagery for Thais to use in order to depict their ideals than the swastika. They respond to dictatorial leadership in the same way Russians do. They like strength and power. They imagine themselves as a mighty country that has never been invaded and does not allow 'dilution' of their land property ownership by foreigners.

On a sepearate note I wonder what Israel would say if the Thais used an image like this

Given Israel's recent human rights history . . . .matter of time before they are just as admired by the Thai elite

Edited December 14, 2014 by DavidBonnie

[Tokay]

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.