Neeranam Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 My beloved friend for over ten years came back the other day at 4pm vomiting and not wanting to eat anything. He seemed to get better by night time and looked better the next morning. When I came home he was dead. Does this sound like poisoning? I have a feeling it has to be as about 5 soi dogs have mysteriously disappeared. Never been as sad about a human dying. strange. He was a pedigree Golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomthai Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Awww shit. Sorry to hear that. It happened to us a few years ago. I can't prove it' but I'm pretty certain an ex landlord gave one of mine rat poison. If it helps anyone in the future. Get them to the vet at first sign of symptoms massive doses of vitamin k are required if you can administer it in time. Typical symptoms of rat poison in dogs is thick egg yolk like vomit and mucus and bleeding from the gums. Vomiting usually comes first. Sorry for you loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tywais Posted December 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2014 Sorry for your loss Neeranam. I know how you feel about losing a close pet. The pain when we lost our pedigree GR was overwhelming, surprisingly so. Does sound like poisoning as we had a smaller dog before our GR that it happened to and similar symptoms. If you need any support I joined this forum and found it helpful. http://www.goldenretrieverforum.com/rainbow-bridge-grief-support-section/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Awww shit. Sorry to hear that. It happened to us a few years ago. I can't prove it' but I'm pretty certain an ex landlord gave one of mine rat poison. If it helps anyone in the future. Get them to the vet at first sign of symptoms massive doses of vitamin k are required if you can administer it in time. Typical symptoms of rat poison in dogs is thick egg yolk like vomit and mucus and bleeding from the gums. Vomiting usually comes first. Sorry for you loss. Yes it was like that and if only I had realized then. I know guilt is part of the grieving process but... He wouldn't have had long to live anyways as I've never seen a GR over 11 in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Sorry for your loss Neeranam. I know how you feel about losing a close pet. The pain when we lost our pedigree GR was overwhelming, surprisingly so. Does sound like poisoning as we had a smaller dog before our GR that it happened to and similar symptoms. If you need any support I joined this forum and found it helpful. http://www.goldenretrieverforum.com/rainbow-bridge-grief-support-section/ Thanks Tywais - much appreciated! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Sorry to hear about your loss of one of a beautiful breed of dog.I have lost four dogs in similar circumstances although one of them could have been from snake bite.I know it is too late in your case but if you are ever confronted with this again,in my village if a dog is found in time they can be saved by administering a mixture of one raw egg and equal amount of vegetable oil.I have seen this work myself with the usual rat poison that is used. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 my thoughts are also with you neeranam,seems he didnt suffer did he.when any member looses a loyal loving freind who has been a family member for such a long time its like someone ripping your heart out. going on what you have descibed and having seen what happened to one near me yes he had been poisoned. i think it was on here that i seen this, POISON ANTIDOTE COOKING OIL MIXED WITH A RAW EGG. R.I.P LOVED ONE we will all meet one day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 That's rough Neeranam. Our GR Honey is only 20 weeks old. I hope she has a long and happy life the same as Whisky appeared to have had. Lovely dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post catman20 Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 you say when your dog came back, if u let your dog out alone to crap allover other peoples lawns and outside there houses and generally be a pain in the ass to other people what do you expect, people who own dogs should be more responsible 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendywire Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 you say when your dog came back, if u let your dog out alone to crap allover other peoples lawns and outside there houses and generally be a pain in the ass to other people what do you expect, people who own dogs should be more responsibleThat's a little harsh. I am not sur the OP needs to have his guilt made even worse by you stating this. How do you know the dog didn't escape? Dogs do that sometimes you know 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wonder6281 Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 My first thought was 'came back at 4pm?' Where was your dog? I'd suggest that given you pet has been out exploring, someone has taken offence to it. Do you let your dog out to wander a lot? Sad as it is, your dog is your responsibility and should be contained to prevent this thing happening. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasntong Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Sorry for your loss, my Thai Ridgeback has been poisone twice he starts shaking and vomiting until he collapses both time I have gotten him to the vet and he has recovered by the following day, but he will still eat anything he can find when I take him for his walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meatboy Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 you say when your dog came back, if u let your dog out alone to crap allover other peoples lawns and outside there houses and generally be a pain in the ass to other people what do you expect, people who own dogs should be more responsible this is for you and the 2 likes, starts with F.AND ENDS WITH F. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatyaier Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 A couple of years ago we got 2 puppies (Thai dogs). One evening as we were leaving to go into town I noticed a big frog or toad near our door. When we got back home I saw the frog was missing it's head and 1 dog was ill. It was still sick in the morning so we took it to the animal hospital. I explained what I had seen but they said it was not what caused it because they would be able to tell by looking at it's mouth. They gave me some pills for him. He died later that day. Now I don't have a lot of faith in Thai veterinarians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ammagic Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 I feel so sad when I hear of dogs being poisoned. Such a terrible death. I have 5 dogs but the only time they leave my property is on a leash. We are super careful about them eating anything outside - & yes, I do clean up after them. Too many dangers to let one's dogs run free 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 This is very sad indeed but you do need to keep your pets safe. Grease , ANTIFREEZE !!!!! There is a lot of bad things around for animals to get into. Other diseased dogs. I love animals but this does not seem like the place to have one . How is the Flea and Tick situation in Thailand. I see so many dogs with the mange. Hair falling out, Limping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkup Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 RIP, sorry mate, We had one of our dogs poisoned in the village where the in laws live, 2 others also died mysteriously, happens allot here unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MishMish Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hello I am also sorry to read of your loss. I own a Rottweiler and find he is unjustly feared and hated in my area. He is kept very closely under watch, Inside in the a/c, in a well fenced pen when necessary and only walked on a leash. He is only allowed in the garden when I have eyes on him as he is a 'digger'. I too have had several scares that appeared to be poisoning. Sometimes vomiting for a day and at worse, appearing unwell for up to a week. As it seemed possible that a hateful neighbor 'could' throw bait over the fence, I have moved and installed cameras to act as a deterrent. Still a few episodes have occurred in the last year. Thank you for the antidote suggestion, though how to administer to an unhappy dog this size who is refusing food, might be a bit tricky. I am very fortunate that he has proven such resilience. I thought it was possible that the residue left after the pesticide men have been in to fumigate (a monthly occurrence) may also be to blame. Only twice has his illness coincided (the same week) with the spraying. Can anyone tell me what toxic agents are used to fumigate for 'pests' as no one can tell me here? I often suffer headaches from the smell and worry terribly for my pets health and safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sunshine51 Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 Neeranam....The missus & I have gone through 2 dog poisonings. One was a loveable but really dumb black Lab we rescued while the other was just a smart female soi dog, also a rescue. A couple months after the female was poisined we moved to the country side. No more problems with poisonings & our current mutts, all 6 of em, seem to know what not to do when snakes come around. My heart goes out to you with your loss. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) So very sorry for your loss. I know the feeling, have experienced the same. If there was bleeding from the gums and backside, as well as vomiting, thick and congealed, then it sounds like rat poison has been used. A few other soi dogs gone also? Sounds very much like it. I lost my two pups of 14 months in the same way, and a few soi dogs went missing around the same time. Unfortunately, I was in hospital at the time and could not help. I came home on the Friday, no dogs greeting me so I knew something was wrong. Was later told by my step son that he and the father in law had buried them and that they had died within a couple of hours of each other the day before I returned home. One was a field dog, the other a white Labrador retriever. Both beautiful dogs and miss then dearly. It's like losing a member of the family. We later established who was responsible but as no proof, it was what will be, will be. Apparently the man was attempting to steal our chooks. People use small amounts of poison, mixed with food, to drug the chooks and stop their squawking. He not only got my dogs but a neighbour's cat and some of their chooks. Looks like he used to much. Shame he never took the chooks. Anyway, they say there is such a thing as karma, I really think there is. Never wished him any ill but within a month he passed away, have no idea from what but he won't be missed by me. Now have a pedigree German Shepherd, training him not to pick up food off the ground but as he is now only 6 months old, it is very hard as still a puppy. He is turning out to be a good watch dog and barks whenever strangers come to the main gate. He is never allowed out of the property and when I walk him, always on a leash. I've even put signs on the from and back gates, in Thai, to warn people of his presence, and it works, they stop at the gate, ring the bell and won't enter until I come to them. A good deterrent and now that the neighbours are getting to know him, he lets them in without being aggressive. Edited December 16, 2014 by Si Thea01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 12DrinkMore Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) With you there. For some reason the dog lovers on TV seem to think that it is OK for dogs to run wild, chasing bicycles, motorcycles and pedestrians, killing chickens, crapping everywhere and barking all night and we should just tolerate it. As I doubt whether dogs can be trained to stay at home permanently, they need to be in a secure compound or on a line. Any dog running loose is, as far as I am concerned, a fair target. I lost over forty chickens in a pretty secure coop a few years ago. Not a single one was left alive by the dogs. They came back for more the next night. Strangely I never saw any of those dogs again. I do wonder what happened? Edited December 16, 2014 by Tywais Removed quote of deleted post 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hello I am also sorry to read of your loss. I own a Rottweiler and find he is unjustly feared and hated in my area. He is kept very closely under watch, Inside in the a/c, in a well fenced pen when necessary and only walked on a leash. He is only allowed in the garden when I have eyes on him as he is a 'digger'. I too have had several scares that appeared to be poisoning. Sometimes vomiting for a day and at worse, appearing unwell for up to a week. As it seemed possible that a hateful neighbor 'could' throw bait over the fence, I have moved and installed cameras to act as a deterrent. Still a few episodes have occurred in the last year. Thank you for the antidote suggestion, though how to administer to an unhappy dog this size who is refusing food, might be a bit tricky. I am very fortunate that he has proven such resilience. I thought it was possible that the residue left after the pesticide men have been in to fumigate (a monthly occurrence) may also be to blame. Only twice has his illness coincided (the same week) with the spraying. Can anyone tell me what toxic agents are used to fumigate for 'pests' as no one can tell me here? I often suffer headaches from the smell and worry terribly for my pets health and safety. the pestacide men come to our house twice a yr.they spray arround the garden and always tell us to keep our boy inside for a few hrs.we also have a presure spray and use it quite regular so yes keep them indoors while it goes on. you cant stop them eating grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) This is very sad indeed but you do need to keep your pets safe. Grease , ANTIFREEZE !!!!! There is a lot of bad things around for animals to get into. Other diseased dogs. I love animals but this does not seem like the place to have one . How is the Flea and Tick situation in Thailand. I see so many dogs with the mange. Hair falling out, Limping. The flea and ticks are a problem here where we live in the North East, as we have forest bordering our property. Take my dog to the vet every month to be inoculated for ticks, and de-tick him manually once a week. After the injection the ticks are unable to kill the dog but still remain on the animal so we remove them by hand. Also have injections for rabies, every couple of months and keep him within our property, away from the mangy soi dogs. Have let him socialise with a few other puppies in the immediate area, as this is needed but always walk him on the lead when outside home. Have found a fantastic vet, very caring person and even though I am a farang, he charges what he charges the locals. Every month for the ticks and fleas, 350 baht, every couple of months for rabies, 450 baht. He will also come to the home at no extra charge. Edited December 16, 2014 by Si Thea01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb59 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 i would not let my wife go at midnight thru any dangerous places, as i would take care of my beloved dog. at any time. as there are no controls for dogs in Thailand, people want to solve the problems in these ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 An OTT insensitive post removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 .......how Buddhist can some people get.... ...it does reflect an attitude......something not to someone's liking....get rid of it in any manner.... ...I think that has a name in the psychology books..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post awayego Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 you say when your dog came back, if u let your dog out alone to crap allover other peoples lawns and outside there houses and generally be a pain in the ass to other people what do you expect, people who own dogs should be more responsible this is for you and the 2 likes, starts with F.AND ENDS WITH F. Sadly, a typical reaction from some dog lovers. You are wrong to assume that anyone who criticises owners who let their dogs run free is automatically a dog hater. Like many others, I like dogs and have no problem with them AS LONG AS THEY ARE KEPT UNDER CONTROL AND DON'T BOTHER OTHERS. Is that SO unreasonable? There is no such thing as an irresponsible dog - only irresponsible owners. In the UK, as just one example, there are quite strict laws and by-laws regarding the responsibility of dog owners. I know TiT and anything goes here but irresponsibility is still irresponsibility. I'll wait now for a similar response! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmackos Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Sorry to hear of your loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyWay2 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 He might have eaten something bad. My street dog was vomiting the other day wouldn't eat anything and barely moved. Thought he was gonna die but he made it. I think someone just fed him some bad food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrosman Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Why was your dog running lose? My Thai friends lost a dog to a snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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